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Hey Shane, let's meet at the chilis just down the street from the rink. It's nice!
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Jun 20, 2017 03:04
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Still handled better than Trump's firing of Comey.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:So in your estimation, Chris Osgood is a better goalie than say, Mikka Kiprusoff? Osgood has 3 cups, Kipper has zero. I mean, I'm not sure that individual players care more about their counting stats than they do championships, but guys posting on message boards sure do.
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MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:I mean, I'm not sure that individual players care more about their counting stats than they do championships, but guys posting on message boards sure do. It's not about what they care about. It's about who's better. Fleury is worse than about I'd say 75% of the goalies on the teams who made the playoffs, and if he'd been drafted by say, Carolina (who drafted right after Pittsburgh in Fleury's draft year), he'd probably be a backup at this point, if that. Fleury has had a few good regular seasons, and every time he has Pittsburgh didn't win a championship. Why, if I don't know better, I'd say he has rings because of the tremendous job Pittsburgh has done building the team in front of him. Because I'm pretty sure Toronto wouldn't have gifted Carolina Phil Kessel for next to nothing. Do you think it's a coincedence that he keeps having to fight like hell to get his job back from Matt Murray? Or better yet: would a defending champion be giving him away if he was as integral as you think he is, unless the franchise was doing a firesale, which they aren't? Also you are dreaming if you don't think players don't care about their stats, a lot of their bonuses and whatnot are directly tied in to their numbers. At the end of the day they care about making money just as much as they do about winning cups, and some care more about the money. El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 03:27 on Jun 20, 2017 |
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Jun 20, 2017 03:21
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yellowcar posted:Still handled better than Trump's firing of Comey. Doan was investigating the team for ties to Russia?
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Jun 20, 2017 03:27
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grack posted:Doan was investigating the team for ties to Russia? If it were Quebec I'd buy it. He doesn't much care for francophones....
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El Gallinero Gros posted:It's not about what they care about. It's about who's better. Fleury is worse than about I'd say 75% of the goalies on the teams who made the playoffs, and if he'd been drafted by say, Carolina (who drafted right after Pittsburgh), he'd probably be a backup, if that. Objectively, the guy in question beat 2 of the Vizena finalists head to head on these playoffs, so I gotta question not only your math, but your conclusion.
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Jun 20, 2017 03:29
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grack posted:Doan was investigating the team for ties to Russia? I knew it...Burmistrov!
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MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:I mean, I'm not sure that individual players care more about their counting stats than they do championships, but guys posting on message boards sure do. Players caring about winning cups doesn't change the fact that Rinne is objectively better than Fleury you imbecile. Stop moving the goalposts. Cups are a team achievement, not a personal one. Looking at actual personal achievements Rinne is a 3 time Vezina finalist. Fluery...not so much
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Jun 20, 2017 03:34
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grack posted:Doan was investigating the team for ties to Russia? Mantracker is making a lot more sense now
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Jun 20, 2017 03:35
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grack posted:Doan was investigating the team for ties to Russia? former ties 
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MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:Objectively, the guy in question beat 2 of the Vizena finalists head to head on these playoffs, so I gotta question not only your math, but your conclusion. Chris Osgood "beat" a lot of goalies in the 90's. Doesn't make him a good goalie, just means the Red Wings were terrific. I like how you keep ignoring that they'd literally prefer to give him away for NOTHING than keep him. Tell me about all the Vezina finalists whose teams would rather see them not be on the team at all than keep them. Tell you what: If MAF is drafted to Vegas, and he posts a SV pct of .912 or higher (his SV pct the first time the Pens won the cup and he got his name on the trophy), I'll change my username to something of your choice, and keep it for one NHL season. 
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A Typical Goon posted:Players caring about winning cups doesn't change the fact that Rinne is objectively better than Fleury you imbecile. Stop moving the goalposts. Cups are a team achievement, not a personal one. My argument hasn't changed at all from the start. I'm not sure why you guys get so angry that you go straight to ad hom, but lol
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Jun 20, 2017 03:38
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MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:My argument hasn't changed at all from the start. I'm not sure why you guys get so angry that you go straight to ad hom, but lol Because you're being willfully ignorant
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Jun 20, 2017 03:39
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Man that guy sure does like MAF. I bet MAF would like it that someone was so in like with him.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Because you're being willfully ignorant No, I;m just applying a different "objective" standard than the one you're using to prove a point, and it instantly turned you uncivil. I wonder why that is
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Jun 20, 2017 03:44
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I don't think people should be so mad during this week, the draft week, one of the best weeks of the hockey season.
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Jun 20, 2017 03:48
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MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:No, I;m just applying a different "objective" standard than the one you're using to prove a point, and it instantly turned you uncivil. I wonder why that is It's not uncivil to call someone with a stupid argument stupid
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A Typical Goon posted:It's not uncivil to call someone with a stupid argument stupid That's like, just your opinion man
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Jun 20, 2017 03:56
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How about you both shut up or you're taking enforced breaks.
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Jun 20, 2017 03:58
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MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:No, I;m just applying a different "objective" standard than the one you're using to prove a point, and it instantly turned you uncivil. I wonder why that is At no point did I call you a name until you asked "jeez guys why the harsh tones" and even then, I called it as I saw it. The Penguins are still giving away a supposedly great goalie. A Typical Goon is correct, you're using a team's performance in front of a goalie to prove his "excellence" and you've ignored things like "His team doesn't want him", "His numbers are average at best most of the time", "Bad goalies have won cups and even been part of dynasties". What I don't understand is why you're so convinced. The guy's been on thin ice with Pens org. how many times? Jesus, he almost lost his job to Tomas Vokoun when Vokoun was 37. They're finally getting rid of him, for NOTHING, not even getting a pick back because they were dumb enough to give him a NTC, which is the only reason he's lasted this long, and you're still like "Nope, he's totally great". Your logic seems to be "But he has a lot of wins and cups!", and so do lots of mediocre goalies. Antti Niemi, Chris Osgood, Corey Crawford. All won cups, all mediocre. The following's a list of talented goalies, some of whom are HOF worthy, who have never won a cup. They're all better than Fleury. Curtis Joseph Sean Burke Miikka Kiprusoff Roberto Luongo Henrik Lundqvist Carey Price Cory Schneider Tony Esposito Cups/Championships are a poor indicator of individual talent. Take a look at this list of players who never won a cup and tell me it's actually their fault http://www.thehockeyfanatic.com/2016/04/top-20-nhl-players-to-never-win-a-stanley-cup/
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That MAF derail was started by someone saying "boy PAS sure is bragging about MAF now after moaning for years!" and then getting feisty when the reply was "he's a swell guy who did good in some years and was a house of cards in some others". I'll chalk it up to the humidity but jeez, more vitriol aimed at D-Link than Snow and Holland combined. Anyways, MAF is the best, and eight years later his jersey remains my best-ever sports paraphernalia purchase. Always have and will cheer for him, even while cringing as he sashays his way 9 feet outside the crease.
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kalensc posted:That MAF derail was started by someone saying "boy PAS sure is bragging about MAF now after moaning for years!" and then getting feisty when the reply was "he's a swell guy who did good in some years and was a house of cards in some others". The MAF derail is cool, because hey, discussing the merits of a player that may go in the expansion draft is relevant. The ensuing flames were not. So yeah, take a deep breath, relax, and no one has to sit in the sin bin.
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Gio posted:former ties https://twitter.com/WojtekWolski86/status/872891064427872256 they're all over the drat place
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maf helped bring the cup to nashville and sas still hates him, truly there is no pleasing some people here
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Take a look at this list of players who never won a cup and tell me it's actually their fault http://www.thehockeyfanatic.com/2016/04/top-20-nhl-players-to-never-win-a-stanley-cup/ *Looks at #1* *X's out*
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Gio posted:former ties Breaking: Bryzgalov latest NHL player engulfed in Late Night Filings scandal: https://youtu.be/JA-okJmri2o
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El Gallinero Gros posted:At no point did I call you a name until you asked "jeez guys why the harsh tones" and even then, I called it as I saw it. The Penguins are still giving away a supposedly great goalie. A Typical Goon is correct, you're using a team's performance in front of a goalie to prove his "excellence" and you've ignored things like "His team doesn't want him", "His numbers are average at best most of the time", "Bad goalies have won cups and even been part of dynasties". It's almost like you got real mad trying to say that championships don't matter, but counting stats do with the express purpose of confirming your own bias about MAF to me. Jarome Iginla was real bad on the Pens btw, but Ron Hainsey is a Stanley Cup Champion.
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I just saw that Detroit is interested in Phaneuf and if we get another terrible old fart locker room presence then I'm boycotting going to wings games
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:I just saw that Detroit is interested in Phaneuf and if we get another terrible old fart locker room presence then I'm boycotting going to wings games How many a year do you go to again?
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iospace posted:How many a year do you go to again? Usually around a dozen I was poor as gently caress until 8 months ago when I graduated and got my job lol
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iospace posted:How many a year do you go to again? I'm at pretty much all of them, and I am gonna be so mad next year. It's one thing to get actively worse at the Joe, because how often can I ever go to the Joe again It's another thing to attempt to trot out a high-end nightclub experience while fielding a last place team.
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If they were really interested the time for that trade was before submitting the protected list.
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AsInHowe posted:I'm at pretty much all of them, and I am gonna be so mad next year. Yeah this. I had so much hope that Blashill would get some young talent ready to go and while it'd be painful it'd be for the best. And I was super stoked to go to the fancy new arena instead of the dumpy joe and be on top of all the restaurants then take the Q line down to RO to get drunker before going home Then the boomers in the burbs voted against a regional mass transit bill and Holland refused to quit and now everything will be more expensive with no reward except watching whatever team is visiting win and cheer for them I guess
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here's the menu for the place shane doan got let go at https://s3.amazonaws.com/cos-firstwatch/production/april-2017-menus/FirstWatchMenu_LiveH4_WEB.pdf $10 avocado toast = high class. i personally would get the power wrap or splurge on the smoked salmon eggs benedict
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MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:Do you think that .09 matters at all to Rinne? I wonder if he'd swap that 9 100ths of a percent for a Cup guys please why do I have to go back a page to quote and correct this. first, it's .009, and second, it's 9 10ths of a percent come on. boo penguins boo habs boo NHL. Can't wait for the Olympic threads.
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hifi posted:here's the menu for the place shane doan got let go at https://s3.amazonaws.com/cos-firstwatch/production/april-2017-menus/FirstWatchMenu_LiveH4_WEB.pdf gently caress that place.
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Krime posted:Yeah. Based on bookings and the catalogue the prices were expected to come down from where they were. All I saw about the new ones was that the replicas were actually going to be Fanatics branded and only the authentics would be Adidas. And yeah, the "retail authentic" Reebok jerseys were garbage. River City and I think Ice Jerseys specifically carried Canadian-made "on-ice authentic" in the more popular styles and teams for an extra charge. I seem to recall the Penguins team store mixing these styles at the same price point and no indication that either was any different. They're weird like that, their replica jerseys are a mix of screen-printed and fully-sewn numbers with no difference in price or stock, I went through a couple racks of Crosby jerseys to find a sewn one.
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