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Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Also momentum elections are bullshit anyway

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ex post facho
Oct 25, 2007

Karl Barks posted:

if ossof came out against abortion, he would probably be more likely to win that district. so that's what he's got to do

b..but...heath...mello? :psypop:

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Tight Booty Shorts posted:

This number of people is way smaller than you think but have their voices disproportionately heard by people like you who then use this excuse as to why we gotta run ahitty centrist candidates

Eich tee eich

republican: *runs on platform of "i am against you being able to afford survival* *wins*

Serf
May 5, 2011


AstheWorldWorlds posted:

Generations ago and if you haven't noticed things are different. The disanalogy wrt the left comes with the fact the right wing is backed by effectively a global capitalist empire and the very structure of the republic itself favors the conservatives.

Barring that, huey long was assassinated.

The republic will not save you. It was designed to do this.

naysay all u want, but i live here, and i ain't givin up

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

zegermans posted:

Wasn't the consensus like 3 weeks ago that being anti abortion is actually progressive if you're in favor of a minimum wage hike like other noted left wing guy who lost, Mello?

isn't he one of the "i personally am against abortion but don't believe the government should ban it" people?

Turdfuzz
Jul 23, 2008

im gonna kick ur asses

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

Serf posted:

imma say this as gently as i can

there are rural minorities too, and there's more of them every year

You know drat well we dont mean them you idiot

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

Karl Barks posted:

good point, i'm sure the media didn't play a role. ahhh it's so good to be able to safely blame poor people from my ivory tower

I sure as hell know MY good white city-dwelling gentrifying liberal peers who voted for obama and Hillary aren't at fault for anything :smug:

Wait why are you letting these feral black children near my kid's school :byodood:

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

zegermans posted:

Also momentum elections are bullshit anyway

mmmm tell that to labor

Serf
May 5, 2011


MariusLecter posted:

Nah youre now a neoliberal

ahem

lmao

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

he just reads the "who is john galt" speech while jerking off under the podium.

Serf
May 5, 2011


MariusLecter posted:

You know drat well we dont mean them you idiot

so stop talking about rurals as a monolith ya dumb bastard

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Serf posted:

imma say this as gently as i can

there are rural minorities too, and there's more of them every year

i hope they can stay safe while the rest of their state wants them dead :(

Mo_Steel
Mar 7, 2008

Let's Clock Into The Sunset Together

Fun Shoe

If this was Bush we would've watched him start a loving war

Sad baby President weaker than George Bush

Matoi Ryuko
Jan 6, 2004


Turdfuzz posted:

im gonna kick ur asses

lets do this

Nuclearmonkee
Jun 10, 2009


euphronius posted:

honestly how much of the national vote do you think a purely socialist democratic party would win?

20% 30% I cant see more than 30% . downside is like 10-15%

You gotta market it better. this is stupidland if you call it something good and sell it well it fuckin works because people are dumb

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Karl Barks posted:

isn't he one of the "i personally am against abortion but don't believe the government should ban it" people?

I dunno I just thought it was funny how the only possible reason a leftist lost in an Omaha election had to be DNC backstabbing

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

Yinlock posted:

republican: *runs on platform of "i am against you being able to afford survival* *wins*

As long as you say it with conviction and with some charisma they'll win

I mean the record is right infront of you, idk why you keep acting like it's such a mysterious mechanism

Serf
May 5, 2011


Yinlock posted:

i hope they can stay safe while the rest of their state wants them dead :(

my county is only 65% white as of 2010. white folks better band together quick if they're gonna do something

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



the north and coasts are actually plenty racist they're just somewhat more polite about it

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Typo posted:

how do you do that when in a large area of the country people associate anything left-wing economically past social security/medicare with "helping lazy people and blacks"
Get the people who don't think that on your side, then change others' minds once you have an enthusiastic base to help you do it.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Karl Barks posted:

mmmm tell that to labor

but

they didnt win

Serf
May 5, 2011


FactsAreUseless posted:

Get the people who don't think that on your side, then change others' minds once you have an enthusiastic base to help you do it.

hell yeah

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Don't chase approval, start where you want to be and others will follow. A lesson I'd have hoped you learned in middle school.

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

zegermans posted:

but

they didnt win

omg

Louisgod
Sep 25, 2003

Always Watching
Bread Liar

Serf posted:

imma say this as gently as i can

there are rural minorities too, and there's more of them every year

yeah and they're continuously being marginalized by oppressive voting suppression laws being passed by Republicans at the state level, you think minorities churning out to vote in the future is going to improve any time soon?

ex post facho
Oct 25, 2007

Mo_Steel posted:

If this was Bush we would've watched him start a loving war

Sad baby President weaker than George Bush

Pretty sure NK doesnt have a whole lot of strategic oil reerves tho

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Serf posted:

my county is only 65% white as of 2010. white folks better band together quick if they're gonna do something

i mean that's what the whole "voting trump" business was about

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

Karl Barks posted:

good point, i'm sure the media didn't play a role. ahhh it's so good to be able to safely blame poor people from my ivory tower

What I mean is that racism isn't really far away or alien to anyone's experience, and saying it is placed by the elites for their own enrichment ignores the very real racism that upper and lower class people have. Racism is obviously stoked by media campaigns and all that poo poo but we all see the same media and very few people turn it off.

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

FactsAreUseless posted:

Don't chase approval, start where you want to be and others will follow. A lesson I'd have hoped you learned in middle school.

whatever neolib

Rah!
Feb 21, 2006


Turdfuzz posted:

im gonna kick ur asses

good

TwoStepBoog
Apr 12, 2008

ex post facho posted:

b..but...heath...mello? :psypop:

lol good times

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

Admiral Ray posted:

What I mean is that racism isn't really far away or alien to anyone's experience, and saying it is placed by the elites for their own enrichment ignores the very real racism that upper and lower class people have. Racism is obviously stoked by media campaigns and all that poo poo but we all see the same media and very few people turn it off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY2lQV3ADfc

Serf
May 5, 2011


Louisgod posted:

yeah and they're continuously being marginalized by oppressive voting suppression laws being passed by Republicans at the state level, you think minorities churning out to vote in the future is going to improve any time soon?

yes, i do. people are gettin organized, largely based in churches. we've got huge amounts of minority voters turning out for dem meetings even a county over

Yinlock posted:

i mean that's what the whole "voting trump" business was about

i've been real doom and gloom but i'm seeing the change happening down here, so i can't be too pessimistic

Robert Plant
Jan 6, 2015

I for one don't enjoy being hosed in the rear end by the wealthy for the entirety of my needlessly short life but hey different strokes

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

Serf posted:

so stop talking about rurals as a monolith ya dumb bastard

Marius is certain woke corporatism is the answer

You can't waste your time with blind people like him lol

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Turdfuzz posted:

im gonna kick ur asses

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Tight Booty Shorts posted:

As long as you say it with conviction and with some charisma they'll win

I mean the record is right infront of you, idk why you keep acting like it's such a mysterious mechanism

it's just when the words are "I explicitly want you to die" then it becomes kind of inexcusable?

like there's something inherently wrong with you as a human being if you'll follow that kind of statement just because it's said confidently

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Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

FactsAreUseless posted:

Get the people who don't think that on your side, then change others' minds once you have an enthusiastic base to help you do it.

the problem is that voting is very heavily bificated on racial lines in the south

your enthusiastic base is black and the other guy's base is white, the racial gap is awfully hard to bridge

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