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I see the presser is starting right on time 15-20 minutes late. [BO the dog at the press conference podium]
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Ripoff posted:I glanced over the form (I live within walking distance of my polling place so I didn't pay much attention) and thought that you had to be physically handicapped or otherwise absent from the state to use those. My memory is poo poo but I remember this big bold text asking you to "certify" you are not able to make it to a polling station, I'm guessing because they want to enforce the voter ID laws. technically you're supposed to have a reason to use the absentee ballot but also technically they can't ask you what that reason is so you can do it anyway
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theflyingorc posted:I saw an anti "Hanoi Jane" bumper sticker last week. I seriously can't imagine why somebody still cares. My wife was at a family thing a month or so back & was telling her mom about Frankie & Grace. Apparently that triggered her step father who went on to rage about Jane Fonda for the rest of the afternoon. He flew A1s in Vietnam, so at least it wasn't some Ted Nugent (pants) poo poo(ting), but my wife came home really confused why it still mattered.
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Jaxyon posted:Democrats won the popular vote by a significant amount and only lost the presidency by a tiny amount of people. Center Left loses close election by a small margin. Prognosis: Center Left Ideology is completely dead Left loses a close election by a small margin. Prognosis: Massive victory for global leftism Center-Left wins blow out Presidential and Parliament elections *crickets*
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Jun 20, 2017 18:51
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Xae posted:I would be ok talking about other elections if people could keep a shred of consistency about them. Different messages play well in different places, and it is important to have charisma to sell your plan, whatever it is
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HannibalBarca posted:we're also so spread out and so economically and racially segregated that comprehensive public transit is a ludicrous pipe dream! 
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Jun 20, 2017 18:53
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Jun 20, 2017 18:57
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empty whippet box posted:I remember reading estimates that said things like 50,000 more deaths per year after the AHCA. I've seen from 10k to 40k a year, depending on source. Which is entirely too many, but won't be millions unless it lasts for a long long time.
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WeAreTheRomans posted:You really are the weirdest troll gimmick I 've ever seen Well, give me credit for thinking up something new when there are two dozen people posting "neoliberal shill" But seriously, voting by mail increases turnout and participation, and allows more time to study the candidates, especially on down-ballot races. Is there any reason that in 2017, "people have a hard time voting because of rain" should be an actual thing people are saying?
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Xae posted:I would be ok talking about other elections if people could keep a shred of consistency about them. The UK parliamentary system is different from France or the US. They can call for a vote more often so the matter isn't decided, it's playing out over six months.
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Jun 20, 2017 18:58
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The President understands how important health care is to many Americans
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The President has clearly indicated that he wants a bill that offers hearts as sacrifices to Acolnahuacatl
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"The president wants a healthcare bill with heart in it*" *A transplant heart that will be on-call for him at any time
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glowing-fish posted:Well, give me credit for thinking up something new when there are two dozen people posting "neoliberal shill" If you are put off voting by rain then you were probably not going to vote anyway
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Jaxyon posted:Democrats won the popular vote by a significant amount and only lost the presidency by a tiny amount of people. You can't fall back on that when the democrats have lost 1000 legislative seats since 2010.
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CyberPingu posted:If you are put off voting by rain then you were probably not going to vote anyway in montana, umbrellas are seen as an affectation of urban homosexuals much like eating vegetables or loving your spouse
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highme posted:My wife was at a family thing a month or so back & was telling her mom about Frankie & Grace. Apparently that triggered her step father who went on to rage about Jane Fonda for the rest of the afternoon. He flew A1s in Vietnam, so at least it wasn't some Ted Nugent (pants) poo poo(ting), but my wife came home really confused why it still mattered. lol I just realized that she's basically demonized by the right for crapping on the experiences of POWs in vietnam the exact same thing they ignored with Trump
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Jun 20, 2017 19:00
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Definitely downplaying the importance of GA-6
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Um, you know, there's personnel things happening. lol
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The Glumslinger posted:Different messages play well in different places, and it is important to have charisma to sell your plan, whatever it is This is true, for a non-Dem example Cory Gardner (CO) ran as a moderate to appeal to the tastes of the state in the 2014 midterm against a fairly well-liked incumbent. Of course, it turned out that he wasn't at all a moderate and is just another far right Republican shitheel, and for that reason he's going to be a one-term Senator, but it shows just how much messaging can help .
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Dietrich posted:The ACHA will not cause "millions of american deaths", stop being hyperbolic. The conservative estimate from the CBO was that 23 million Americans would lose health coverage over the next decade. These are mostly Medicaid recipients, the neediest in the country. You expect removing their access to health care will not cause even 9% more deaths than otherwise would have occurred had this population remained insured?
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Jun 20, 2017 19:03
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I remember a couple of months back when winning GA6 was a pipedream and all that mattered was closing the gap even if ossof lost and now the fate of the universe rides on him winning by 160% of the vote
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Fuschia tude posted:The conservative estimate from the CBO was that 23 million Americans would lose health coverage over the next decade. These are mostly Medicaid recipients, the neediest in the country. You expect removing their access to health care will not cause even 9% more deaths than otherwise would have occurred had this population remained insured? Yes, because that's the estimate made by experts (10-40k per year). Saying "BUT SURELY IT WILL BE HIGHER THAN X" with numbers you pulled out of your rear end doesn't change that.
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oooh asking him why he's been hiding and not holding on camera briefings e: annnnd meandering nothing-answer
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Jun 20, 2017 19:05
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Calaveron posted:I remember a couple of months back when winning GA6 was a pipedream and all that mattered was closing the gap even if ossof lost and now the fate of the universe rides on him winning by 160% of the vote I hate Republicans so much that defeating them is easy since everyone thinks like me!
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Calaveron posted:I remember a couple of months back when winning GA6 was a pipedream and all that mattered was closing the gap even if ossof lost and now the fate of the universe rides on him winning by 160% of the vote Even that won't help the fact that his platform is literally What About All The Good Things Hitler Did?
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Arh yes, please correct a non-native English speaker..
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Xae posted:I would be ok talking about other elections if people could keep a shred of consistency about them. Center left candidate draws less support than prior, debatably more left, candidate who most viewed as having much stronger messaging. Left barely lost an election they were supposed to be completely destroyed in, and did so despite constant intra-party sabotage. Also they picked up way more seats than they have in a while and it doesn't even look close to done. Center-left wins blow out against deeply unpopular crypto-nazi after the further left party basically collapsed. Perhaps... context matters?
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Calaveron posted:I remember a couple of months back when winning GA6 was a pipedream and all that mattered was closing the gap even if ossof lost and now the fate of the universe rides on him winning by 160% of the vote That's because a couple months back, we didn't think the Senate would actually pass ACHOO. Now people think the only way to stop it is to scare the Rs by taking GA6. Also, it's because if we lose GA6, it means we'll lose in 2018 and 2020 and probably 2024.
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refleks posted:Arh yes, please correct a non-native English speaker.. Who gives a poo poo. Stop picking non-issues to be upset about.
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TGLT posted:Center left candidate draws less support than prior, debatably more left, candidate who most viewed as having much stronger messaging. Counterpoint: only one of these examples involved americans
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Calaveron posted:I remember a couple of months back when winning GA6 was a pipedream and all that mattered was closing the gap even if ossof lost and now the fate of the universe rides on him winning by 160% of the vote Well, then the Democrats lost all of the congressional special elections in between and it's starting to feel like one thing after another around here. I need a fuckin' win, Goddamnit.
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HannibalBarca posted:we're also so spread out and so economically and racially segregated that comprehensive public transit is a ludicrous pipe dream! "It was like God himself wanted to vote for Karen Handle."
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Petr posted:Also, it's because if we lose GA6, it means we'll lose in 2018 and 2020 and probably 2024. This is dumb. GA-06 is not going to determine the political outcomes of the entire country for the next decade.
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TGLT posted:Center-left ... deeply unpopular crypto-nazi Yeah huh there's no parallels to America there Also most French folks I've encountered give the impression that "center-left" is a very generous description of Macron
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Oh hey, a good skype question "Trump says he wants to bring back coal, but the workers don't want that, they want tech you stupid shitfuck"
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redneck nazgul posted:Counterpoint: only one of these examples involved americans Agreed? I'm not saying Ossof should run as a hard left, I'm not going to pretend to understand GA-06's culture. I'm just saying people talk about those three different events in different ways because they are more different than just "THE LEFT did the loss/win against THE RIGHT, you know, the only left and the only right, in this the shared global community."
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