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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Deptfordx posted:

He said "It's a shame they don't hire out steam rollers or tanks could have done a tidy job then."

That's not 'Advocating genodice', that's a stupid bigot making a flippant remark.

The increasing use of criminalisation of speech is a concern for me because once it's weaponised it will be used against causes I suspect we both would agree are worthy by those with power and money.

Let's play a game: if a steamroller or tank was what hit those Muslims targeted for who they are, would more or less of them have died?

Were specific people targeted or was it merely a specific 'type' of person?

Advocacy to hate speech has been a crime for a long time and it has not lead to authoritarianism in the countries that do it. The countries with genuine authoritarian lock-em-up-for-thinking-different society have completely different laws to the ones we have. This is not an increase in criminalisation of speech given it has been in law since 1986 and was in fact a weakening of the original 1936 version.

That's unless you specifically have problems with the Racial and Religious Hatred Act 2006?

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VideoGames
Aug 18, 2003

NRVNQSR posted:

There are arguably ways of doing it. For example, no border checks at the Irish border but if you cross it without being a citizen of the Island of Ireland then you're technically breaking the law and subject to deportation; I think that's how the CTA worked prior to Schengen?

Basically the DUP want a Brexit that's crunchy on the inside but chewy on the outside. Which sounds disgusting to me, but hey.

Armadillos?

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

VideoGames posted:

Armadillos?

I think armadillos are crunchy on the outside, chewy on the inside m8

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqeGxMgVOHI

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

JFairfax posted:

I think armadillos are crunchy on the outside, chewy on the inside m8

Can confirm.

Robot Mil
Apr 13, 2011

Renaissance Robot posted:

I'm going to start renting a flat in a couple of months, and I'm kinda rusty on the subject of my rights. I'll be heading down to the CAB today but I wanted to ask here as well if I could.

I'm moving in 5 days before the end of July, about a month after the last tenant clears out, and the landlady initially said that was fine and would give her the opportunity to do some maintenance. In a later email she said I'll only be liable for bills from the date I move in, but she wants rent for the whole of July. I'll be paying August just a week later, and with the deposit as well I'll be out over £1200 pretty much all at once. (I know that's not much to some of you, but it's a lot to me)

I haven't yet signed anything, and won't have done until a few days before I move in. What scope do I have for talking her down to accepting the equivalent of 1 week's rent for July? I assume that before I sign the answer is "none whatsoever" and after it would depend on the wording of the contract?

I don't think anyone's responded to this yet and it's from a few pages ago (train chat :argh:) but if it's helpful:

It really depends on the contract you sign, so if you sign up for your tenancy starting from 1st July you'd be liable for the rent from then. If your tenancy starts afterwards you are responsible for rent from whenever that is. It really should be your actual move in date not a random date she decides on.

Don't sign the contract until you are clear on the start date and negotiate for it to be later in July. She'd be silly to deny you the contract now and have to hunt for a last minute new tenant. Plus if she's doing maintenance to the property and it's not habitable before your actual move in date, it'd be hard for her to suggest you should pay for rent for that time.

That said ALAB so good luck.

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

Robot Mil posted:

(train chat :argh:)

You seem to be implying that Train Chat is bad

There is only one response to people like you

:thermidor:

staberind
Feb 20, 2008

but i dont wanna be a spaceship
Fun Shoe

NRVNQSR posted:

There are arguably ways of doing it. For example, no border checks at the Irish border but if you cross it without being a citizen of the Island of Ireland then you're technically breaking the law and subject to deportation; I think that's how the CTA worked prior to Schengen European freedom of movement?

Basically the DUP want a Brexit that's crunchy on the inside but chewy on the outside. Which sounds disgusting to me, but hey.

(edit: Corrected "Schengen", which doesn't apply in this case.)

puke it, puke it puke it : a reverse lion bar.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

Midnight- posted:

What the hell do the DUP actually want for Brexit?

They don't want a hard border, but don't want NI to have a 'special' status that's different from rest of UK. Now apparently don't want to be in the custom union.

How the hell do you achieve all of that?
depend on your dupper doesn't it

I'm sure some of them want a border wall with the REBELS and some of them want absolutely no change whatsoever.

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

The DUP specifically don't want a special status for Northern Ireland and have voted against this at Stormont - they want a singular national deal.

They want a good Brexit, one with deals where well make money - so really about as fleshed out as every national party

Judoon Platoon
Nov 1, 2010

Trin Tragula posted:

I've got nothing better to do right now. The Best of Bozza:

Why Crossrail signalling is a clusterfuck

Having passed the medical and signed the contracts I'm two weeks out from finding out all about this clusterfuck first hand from the driver's seat. :dance:

VideoGames
Aug 18, 2003

I love this advert!

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Tesseraction posted:

Let's play a game: if a steamroller or tank was what hit those Muslims targeted for who they are, would more or less of them have died?
He turned sharply before plowing into them, and was likely an angry moron with no experience operating plant, so I'm going to go with less. He'd have hosed up the turn and slammed into the kebab shop at 2mph, or if it was a big roller would have got wedged under the railway bridge and ran off.

WeAreTheRomans
Feb 23, 2010

by R. Guyovich

feedmegin posted:

Nonsense, they just need to persuade Ireland to Eirxit :sun:

The RoI response to such a referendum would be ,"lol no". Although I'm sure we've got about 20% numpties who would be enthusiastically in favour

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Didn't Ireland reject the latest EU treaty change when it went to referendum mainly because of left wing and anti-war concerns, and were then told to do it again until they got it right?

BobbyThompson
Mar 23, 2001

Mr. Flunchy posted:

Well this is surreal. Am reading through some articles in my news feed and realised Prospect magazine are using a picture of me and my girlfriend to illustrate one of their articles:

https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/magazine/now-is-the-time-to-fight-against-a-destructive-brexit

I left prospect a couple of years ago after a decade of membership. They got "recruit new members" tourettes.

Robot Mil
Apr 13, 2011

MikeCrotch posted:

You seem to be implying that Train Chat is bad

There is only one response to people like you

:thermidor:

I'm literally looking up train tickets now, they are loving extortionate!

I'm also going on a 3 hour train journey tomorrow and expect to be a horrible sweaty mess at the end of it, at which point I have to go to a work meeting and then 'socialise'. At least work paid.

Basically gently caress trains, can we get back to breakfast chat it was much nicer.

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

I don't know why there was so much attention from the British press about the DUP being a force to tame Brexit - they where full in during the referendum and have spent decades complaining about, they have legit hovered around UKIP territory on the issue for years and the idea Sammy Wilson and other noted EU hating MPs where going to be the voice of reason to stop hard Brexit is pretty delusional

Rumda
Nov 4, 2009

Moth Lesbian Comrade

feedmegin posted:

Nonsense, they just need to persuade Ireland to Eirxit :sun:

It's at least a better portmanteau than Brexit

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.
Trains should be free to use just like highways are.

Rumda
Nov 4, 2009

Moth Lesbian Comrade
To be fair I can basically get to Preston consistently form Lancaster without getting my ticket checked sometimes all the way to Manchester though if your not paying than your basically rolling the dice on the barriers being open or not

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

Guavanaut posted:

Didn't Ireland reject the latest EU treaty change when it went to referendum mainly because of left wing and anti-war concerns, and were then told to do it again until they got it right?

Small amendments where made to placate concerns, and the main reason why it was rejected was cause no one understood what the hell it was about - government ministers famously hosed up and admitted on radio they hadn't even read it.

Throw on top of that a lot of money being shuffled into the no campaign alligned to Libertas from some undeclared sources and you had a recipe for rejection

TomViolence
Feb 19, 2013

PLEASE ASK ABOUT MY 80,000 WORD WALLACE AND GROMIT SLASH FICTION. PLEASE.

kustomkarkommando posted:

I don't know why there was so much attention from the British press about the DUP being a force to tame Brexit - they where full in during the referendum and have spent decades complaining about, they have legit hovered around UKIP territory on the issue for years and the idea Sammy Wilson and other noted EU hating MPs where going to be the voice of reason to stop hard Brexit is pretty delusional

Is this the same Sammy Wilson that said the UDA's doomsday repartition plan to liquidate the catholic population was eminently practical? He sounds like a right charmer.

WeAreTheRomans
Feb 23, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Guavanaut posted:

Didn't Ireland reject the latest EU treaty change when it went to referendum mainly because of left wing and anti-war concerns, and were then told to do it again until they got it right?

That's not what happened, see KKs comment for an accurate summary. But for whatever reason this became the dominant narrative in the UK. I suspect Boris Johnson somehow

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Tesseraction posted:

Advocating genocide is not merely 'stupid' or 'unpleasant' and this pearl-clutching over free speech makes little sense given countries all over the world ban hate speech to some degree and the one closest to becoming a totalitarian state right now is the one which put Freedom of Speech as its first paragraph of the national Bill of Rights.

Should you and others be arrested for the things you propose should happen to Tories, landlords and specific Tories and landlords in this thread?

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
Charged with conspiracy to commit guillotine on the olds and the posh

Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

Tesseraction posted:

Mind you when that's Thanet prick up for t rial?

His first court appearance is July 4th. Expect it to drag on though.

Just in case though the local party is already getting itself in order for a potential byelection at any time.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

sassassin posted:

Should you and others be arrested for the things you propose should happen to Tories, landlords and specific Tories and landlords in this thread?

Do we have any of those? I remember there was one guy popped in here asking about renting out his house while he moved to the US but we soon torch-and-pitchforked him out of here :ussr:

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

WeAreTheRomans posted:

But for whatever reason this became the dominant narrative in the UK. I suspect Boris Johnson somehow
I heard it from Irish anarchists, so presumably they were projecting why they voted that way if that's the case. Or they were Boris Johnson in disguise but there were three of them and I don't think he's that clever. Or even clever at all.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Deptfordx posted:

He said "It's a shame they don't hire out steam rollers or tanks could have done a tidy job then."

That's not 'Advocating genodice', that's a stupid bigot making a flippant remark.

The increasing use of criminalisation of speech is a concern for me because once it's weaponised it will be used against causes I suspect we both would agree are worthy by those with power and money.

The flip side is that 'free' speech is already used as a weapon against people without power and money (scare quotes because there are already legal restrictions on what you can say without ending up in court, and I'm not talking about inciting hatred of minorities)

And I mean, just as a general lifehack, if you're tangentially connected to an act of terrorism, you probably shouldn't tweet "good thing the police don't want to talk to me" and "wish it had been more effective"

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

Guavanaut posted:

Didn't Ireland reject the latest EU treaty change when it went to referendum mainly because of left wing and anti-war concerns, and were then told to do it again until they got it right?
They rejected Lisbon the first time around.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

kustomkarkommando posted:

I don't know why there was so much attention from the British press about the DUP being a force to tame Brexit - they where full in during the referendum and have spent decades complaining about, they have legit hovered around UKIP territory on the issue for years and the idea Sammy Wilson and other noted EU hating MPs where going to be the voice of reason to stop hard Brexit is pretty delusional
It's weird isn't it. Here is Dan Hannan and Sammy Wilson being very pro hard brexit during the Nirish brexit debate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Clb5j0c7ZtY

Not pictured: any dupper being pro soft brexit

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

What happens if you take the pro human operators out of Robot Wars and let the little robots fight for themselves? :3:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCqxOzKNFks

it's terrifying that's what

Skarsnik
Oct 21, 2008

I...AM...RUUUDE!




Julio Cruz posted:

On a completely different subject: remember the Finsbury Park van company owner's son tweeted something hateful? (can't find it in this thread but someone posted it)

Well...

Yeah that was me, good, what a oval office

Bet his dad probably agrees with him in private though

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Skarsnik posted:

Yeah that was me, good, what a oval office

Bet his dad probably agrees with him in private though

Should he be brought in for questioning?

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

I'm guessing as the guy who supplied the van he probably already has?

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

sassassin posted:

Should he be brought in for questioning?

Sometimes you need to shake the tree to see what falls out.

ookiimarukochan
Apr 4, 2011

BigHandsVince posted:

I took roughly the same amount of trains in Japan that year as I took over here , there were 0 problems on any of the Japanese trains. None were late. None were cancelled.

"That year" - you just said you used a JR pass which are only for people on short term tourist visas. The issue isn't the number of trains you took, it's the sort of trains you took and at what time of day you took them. Cheers for mansplaining to me though, if there's one thing that a long-term ex-pat loving loves it's someone who went somewhere on holiday for a couple of weeks and is now an expert. Also, the plural of "anacdote" is not "data" - I've just explained to you that there's a specific system for proving to work you didn't gently caress up yourself when trains are late and you think that this is just a thing that's never used?

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem

kustomkarkommando posted:

I don't know why there was so much attention from the British press about the DUP being a force to tame Brexit - they where full in during the referendum and have spent decades complaining about, they have legit hovered around UKIP territory on the issue for years and the idea Sammy Wilson and other noted EU hating MPs where going to be the voice of reason to stop hard Brexit is pretty delusional

because just like the conservatives during the brexit campaign they've been promising whatever would get them elected firm in the knowledge they'd never have to deliver it and, welp

the press either doesn't want brexit at all, so have an incentive to see the soft brexit side, or specifically want a very hard brexit and as such have motivation to point out their softness in order to motivate may to push harder.

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Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

feedmegin posted:

Do we have any of those? I remember there was one guy popped in here asking about renting out his house while he moved to the US but we soon torch-and-pitchforked him out of here :ussr:

It's a shame you didn't have a real pitchfork and torch could have done a tidy job then.

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