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boner confessor posted:the choice seems obvious - we must bring john boehner out of retirement and run him as a democrat At the very least, it would make John Boehner's life worse, so I guess I'm for it.
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skylined! posted:overall +12 or so shift in three special elections looks pretty good I think that's kind of in spite of Perez's "leadership," not because of it.
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Push El Burrito posted:We would have won if there wasn't still a Democrat in California. We just need to get rid of every Democrat and then the Republicans will have nothing to attack, and then here comes the wave baby! maybe we should all become Republicans, that way they won't be able to attack us
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Mantis42 posted:sorry if my posting record isn't impressive enough to user "the boon" i asked in the other thread but you really dont seem to understand how primaries work given that you were whining about a heavily republican suburban district failing to put a socialist in the general
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skylined! posted:little league team goes up against red sox, loses 4 to 6 I was literally about to make this analogy. Maybe if those 12 year olds threw a lefty out there on the mound and invested more money in better equipment they'd have won. loving losers, never watching them again.
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Phlairdon posted:I've been seeing this thrown around in this forum since 2004. Fusion power is *only* 20 years away!
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skylined! posted:little league team goes up against red sox, loses 4 to 6 When millions of people's access to healthcare is hanging on the little league team - yeah, basically. Shut the gently caress up about "It was only one race and it was in deep red Georgia," Democrats need to win every race they can in deep red America.
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Yeah guys. I really don't think a wave is coming. We are witnessing the birth of a new single party system, and there is actually, literally nothing we can do to stop it. The majority of the country is democrat, but it doesn't matter when only Republicans turn out (are Allowed to turn out, I guess.)
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im sure firing nancy pelosi would stop the republicans for exactly as long as it takes them to open up their press releases in word, hit ctrl-f, and replace all instances of "nancy pelosi" with "literally any other goddamn well known democrat in the country"
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Phlairdon posted:I've been seeing this thrown around in this forum since 2004. clearly the push to eliminate medicaid is in the progressive's favor let the AHCA pass, stupid lefties
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Spiritus Nox posted:When millions of people's access to healthcare is hanging on the little league team - yeah, basically. when you get back in touch with reality please let us know but until then you're better off if you go lie down for a while
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Not on topic here but has any prez ever been so openly partisan? E:whoops thought this was the predictit thread for a second
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Dirt posted:Tom Perez as DNC chair lookin great so far guys We just gotta keep losing. Then eventually we'll hit the maximum amount of losing, and roll over into winning.
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Spiritus Nox posted:When millions of people's access to healthcare is hanging on the little league team - yeah, basically. have you ever tried being a little more realistic, and waiting until a general election rolls around with multiple seats that Dems actually have a chance in hell at?
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Spiritus Nox posted:When millions of people's access to healthcare is hanging on the little league team - yeah, basically. No, they don't. They only need to win about 24 races they had previously lost. This result's not as good as it needs to be but it's not the end of the world. Now if the dems don't get a good strategy down by midterms, well poo poo. And dems being dems uh jesus christ seriously who sends antagonizing emails to potential donors
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Craig K posted:im sure firing nancy pelosi would stop the republicans for exactly as long as it takes them to open up their press releases in word, hit ctrl-f, and replace all instances of "nancy pelosi" with "literally any other goddamn well known democrat in the country" they're already doing this with elizabeth warren they went after her for wanting to deregulate the hearing aid industry
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BardoTheConsumer posted:Yeah guys. I really don't think a wave is coming. We are witnessing the birth of a new single party system, and there is actually, literally nothing we can do to stop it. The majority of the country is democrat, but it doesn't matter when only Republicans turn out (are Allowed to turn out, I guess.) The Democrats will be allowed to exist in pockets but never enough to challenge ironclad GOP rule. Within a generation we will see the first President for Life and the end of elections.
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Pelosi may be a anchor but she also steadies the boat. She's been around long enough and has a lot of loving experience. If you don't think she doesn't then I'll remind you that Nancy Pelosi has been in office longer than some people here have been alive. Personally, I can't stand her but if you don't think she knows how to ratfuck people you'd be wrong. Her not being in congress would be probably a more devastating blow than losing someone like Chuck Schumer.
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Spiritus Nox posted:When millions of people's access to healthcare is hanging on the little league team - yeah, basically. Well. Bad news buddy. There aren't any more until 2018  If we had won these 4 seats we could have watched the House pass the AHCA, but with a really, really satisfying smaller margin though. Boon fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Jun 21, 2017 |
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boner confessor posted:i asked in the other thread but you really dont seem to understand how primaries work given that you were whining about a heavily republican suburban district failing to put a socialist in the general Most people aren't engaged enough in the political process to follow primaries. Furthermore, a primary race isn't the same as a general race. No one made Ossoff run his general campaign strictly on deficit reduction instead of on the massively unpopular healthcare bill.
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eviltastic posted:I know about the resource disparity, what I'm getting at is whether or not there was something distinctive about Parnell as a candidate or how he actually campaigned, as compared to Ossoff or otherwise. Yeah, he was way more of a corporate stooge than people are claiming Ossoff was. Guy worked for Goldman Sachs.
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Phlairdon posted:I've been seeing this thrown around in this forum since 2004.
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Mantis42 posted:Most people aren't engaged enough in the political process to follow primaries. Furthermore, a primary race isn't the same as a general race. No one made Ossoff run his general campaign strictly on deficit reduction instead of on the massively unpopular healthcare bill. this has little to do with the question i asked you so i'm just going to conclude you dont know how primaries work and ignore your moaning
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Glazier posted:The Democrats will be allowed to exist in pockets but never enough to challenge ironclad GOP rule. Within a generation we will see the first President for Life and the end of elections. Let's not forget that they have leaders gleefully dreaming of hunting us with dogs. Well, not us. "Democrats", which I'm sure means a subsection of Democrats I don't happen to be a part of. Edit: it's minorities
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Peven Stan posted:Hahah, you've seized on that Ali Wong joke and won't let it go. you're not viet, you're just a racist
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Dems have managed to lose to: A guy who literally beat up a reporter A woman who says "I do not support a living wage" on camera. It's impressive.
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Boon posted:Well. Bad news buddy. There aren't any more until 2018 There's no more special elections? Thank loving god. A bit too special for me.
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TGLT posted:No, they don't. They only need to win about 24 races they had previously lost. This result's not as good as it needs to be but it's not the end of the world. Dems winning just enough of a majority to stop the Republicans shouldn't be the goal. Let's try to imagine aiming higher Hollismason posted:Pelosi may be a anchor but she also steadies the boat. She's been around long enough and has a lot of loving experience. If you don't think she doesn't then I'll remind you that Nancy Pelosi has been in office longer than some people here have been alive. Personally, I can't stand her but if you don't think she knows how to ratfuck people you'd be wrong. I don't know much about her career, who did she ratfuck?
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I don't like Nancy Pelosi but she's a better political operator than Bernie Sanders and that's what you need in leadership instead of someone like a Paul Ryan. She'll go which way the wind blows with the Democratic party so if it pulls left she will as well.
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Spiritus Nox posted:When millions of people's access to healthcare is hanging on the little league team - yeah, basically. don't misunderstand my jousting with the sadbrains as not being disappointed i'm disappointed. and sad and afraid for the very vulnerable among us, and have been since trump took office. (well since before then but like a lot more now)
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"Nancy Pelosi's minion" is just code for "National Democrat" and is just a way to de-localize a race. In districts that have a certain tilt, nationalizing or localizing the election is usually key to winning because people are irrational voters. If Pelosi were replaced, then they would just use someone else as a stand-in to tie Democrats in red districts to the national party.
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Mantis42 posted:Most people aren't engaged enough in the political process to follow primaries. Furthermore, a primary race isn't the same as a general race. No one made Ossoff run his general campaign strictly on deficit reduction instead of on the massively unpopular healthcare bill. so do you not know how primaries work then
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Dirt posted:Dems have managed to lose to: maybe the dems are no the problem maybe america is the problem
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Hollismason posted:Pelosi may be a anchor but she also steadies the boat. She's been around long enough and has a lot of loving experience. If you don't think she doesn't then I'll remind you that Nancy Pelosi has been in office longer than some people here have been alive. Personally, I can't stand her but if you don't think she knows how to ratfuck people you'd be wrong. Pelosi reminds me a lot of the public defender in My Cousin Vinny. Allow her to talk freely and openly and she's a fountain of sage political wisdom and years of experience. Put her up against a ~scurry~ opponent and she folds.
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Don’t worry. When Mary Norwood wins Atlanta mayor and gentrifies the poo poo out of the rest of the city there goes Lewis’s seat.
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Confounding Factor posted:I dunno, I guess I never really understood why people want to get rid of deductions. They are good things and I want more of them. They reduce my taxable income. The mortgage interest deduction is a huge outlay spent mostly on people who don't need it; in fact it's a few multiples of the cost to rent an apartment for every homeless person.
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BardoTheConsumer posted:Yeah guys. I really don't think a wave is coming. We are witnessing the birth of a new single party system, and there is actually, literally nothing we can do to stop it. The majority of the country is democrat, but it doesn't matter when only Republicans turn out (are Allowed to turn out, I guess.) What's different between what you're saying now and what Karl Rove asserted in 2005?
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BardoTheConsumer posted:Let's not forget that they have leaders gleefully dreaming of hunting us with dogs. Well, not us. "Democrats", which I'm sure means a subsection of Democrats I don't happen to be a part of. Oh yeah, as a black man I know my days are numbered. If I ever get pulled over I'm dead, we don't survive police encounters in Trump's America.
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