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Rinkles posted:WOTC dumping Duels finally got me to try Eternal. I believe LSV said he is on the design team for it so it wouldn't surprise me if it shared a lot with magic. Honestly had never heard of it before he brought it up.
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Tainen posted:I believe LSV said he is on the design team for it so it wouldn't surprise me if it shared a lot with magic. Honestly had never heard of it before he brought it up. I think he's a developer actually? But I think the majority of the designers and developers are current or former magic pros (unless it's a bigger company than I realize), so the similarity isn't surprising.
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MaRo was asked on his blog:quote:reiversmusings asked: Is giving Dominaria a "cohesive identity" code for "turning it into a one trick pony" as you've been doing for every world you've invented in the post-8th edition era? Honestly, if that's the plan I'm fairly certain most of the people who've wanted you to go back would prefer you just not. Part of Dominaria's charm is being an actual developed world with different cultures. And part of his answer: quote:Imagine we just clumped two consecutive worlds together. Amonkhet and a Kaladesh are one world and Innistrad and Zendikar are one world. And Tarkir and Theros. Uhh... yeah?
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Who cares about things like meaningful conflict between groups with different values? You know what's really interesting? Getting a 10/10 on our artistic cohesion metric. Everyone loved how interesting Kaladesh was with its population that all loved building things and creativity and the children's-book-level conflict between them and the villain who wanted to control all the inventions and didn't care about creativity was super great. Also Tarkir was terrible with its interesting clans, characters, and settings. Everything was so unique in different places just like a real world. How confusing! e: Also gently caress MaRo for the way he answers questions like this. First he paraphrases and strawmans incorrectly what the question was asking and then answers indignantly like the person asking the question is an unreasonable idiot. "Please stop with the one-note homogenized worlds, and especially don't give Dominaria that treatment." "What are you saying we should just mash block settings together incoherently!?!" He did the same poo poo with that control question a while back too. ThePeavstenator fucked around with this message at 01:17 on Jun 21, 2017 |
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ThePeavstenator posted:Everyone loved how interesting Kaladesh was with its population that all loved building things and creativity and the children's-book-level conflict between them and the villain who wanted to control all the inventions and didn't care about creativity was super great. This is actually true, though? Kaladesh the setting is rad.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:This is actually true, though? Kaladesh the setting is rad. The setting was cool but the execution was not. The origins story was interesting because it made the world look like a steampunk dystopia. The actual set leaned way too hard on the whole place being a magical christmas land of invention and the whole resistance thing just kind of shows up in the second set when everyone realizes they've been duped. IDK I'm not huge into lore but I got spoiled by starting in the Khans block and all that poo poo was pretty cool. After that each world has felt like one clan's worth of lore gets a whole plane.
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Jun 21, 2017 01:30
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Dominaria isn't going to be about a million different settings because it only has one set to tell it's story rather than 15-20 like it did previously. Isn't it still a lovely corroded wasteland after the Time Spiral stuff, or has it gotten better?
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Lone Goat posted:Dominaria isn't going to be about a million different settings because it only has one set to tell it's story rather than 15-20 like it did previously. In the announcement video they say that it's repaired itself from The Mending.
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Jun 21, 2017 01:33
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After the last couple sets I'm not too keen to go back to Dominaria to see what they've done with the place. The longterm appeal is going back to all the different little parts and seeing how they changed. No one is like Hell yes let's go back and see what happened in exclusively Otaria. Didn't Venser/Elspeth/Koth technically hop in and out from/to Mirrodin though? Heck, wasn't Venser from Dominaria? Also Kaladesh apparently changed in a couple years with the discovery of Aether as a resource.
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Time Spiral is one of my favorite blocks ever, so I'm happy about a return to the plane, and I think a slightly less complex and more streamlined version of that block would be just about perfect. I mean I love confusing old timeshifted cards, future shifted cards, new mechanics, morph and echo as much as the next guy, but maybe we don't need rebels and slivers in the same draft environment on top of it. Getting to play with it again recently reminded me both how great and what a tremendous clusterfuck it was.
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ThePeavstenator posted:Yes because it also had no evasion and made you pick up 3 lands to protect it. Flash was the only thing that made it playable despite the rest of it being bad. Pearl lake ancient was amazing. In GPSA i went against it with Sidisi Whip twice in rounds 5 and 6. Both rounds i sat there casting hornet queens and sidisis into counterspells waiting until they had enough lands to cast it at end of turn and unloaded a handful of removal spells on it. One guy picked up 9 lands to save it. After he discarded all of them the next turn i jammed a whip and reanimated whatever I wanted and watched his face crumble . I loved Sidisi Whip.
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Jun 21, 2017 04:09
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Dominaria no longer has time holes destroying the fabric of reality but is still a hellscape dominated by slivers short of a serious retcon.
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Alaan posted:Dominaria no longer has time holes destroying the fabric of reality but is still a hellscape dominated by slivers short of a serious retcon. Turns out something Magical happened and it's fine now. Don't worry about it. I bet there aren't even slivers in the set.
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Alaan posted:Dominaria no longer has time holes destroying the fabric of reality but is still a hellscape dominated by slivers short of a serious retcon. I mean, it is whatever the Imagineers™ at WOTC want it to be, it's not like they have to follow certain rules with their made up magic story.
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Entropic posted:Turns out something Magical happened and it's fine now. Please no more slivers ever. They were cool once, but they pushed that poo poo to to edge. Each sliver has "2: each sliver has '1: each sliver is a library'"
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Jun 21, 2017 04:22
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ReclaimIng Dominaria from slivers could actually be a cool Alienesque storyline.
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Alaan posted:Dominaria no longer has time holes destroying the fabric of reality but is still a hellscape dominated by slivers short of a serious retcon. or they could just say all the slivers died from plague. or magic. doesn't have to be a retcon is my main point
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I think slivers are fine and popular with magic players of all types. Anybody that doesn't want slivers is wrong.
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Note: Slivers died on the way back to their home plane.
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if they bring back slivers we get the lovely human-looking ones instead of the cool ones so i'm not really so hype for them
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I've been having a blast playing BW Eldrazi in Modern. I guess it's just really good against my local meta but I've been wrecking with it. Having tons of maindeck hand disruption (Inquisition/Thoughtseize, Tidehollow Sculler, Thought-Knot Seer) is just really good against a lot of decks that are trying to do unfair things, and maindeck graveyard hate (Relic of Progenitus) randomly hoses certain decks too.
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Sickening posted:I think slivers are fine and popular with magic players of all types. Anybody that doesn't want slivers is wrong. Jacob Van Lunen spotted
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mandatory lesbian posted:if they bring back slivers we get the lovely human-looking ones instead of the cool ones so i'm not really so hype for them 
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http://mythicspoiler.com/hou/cards/hostiledesert.htmlquote:Hostile Desert Doesn't seem that great; being a manland that enters the battlefield untapped is great, and turning into a 3/4 for effectively 3 mana is great, but the condition needed for it to pull that effect off is too unreliable in standard and it doesn't produce colored mana. Might be playable in modern if you use fetches, I guess.
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the Orb of Zot posted:http://mythicspoiler.com/hou/cards/hostiledesert.html Holy cow this seems amazing in any format with fetches.
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Dodging Bolt is a big deal but so is producing only colorless mana and needing to exile lands repeatedly.
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YggdrasilTM posted:
I don't know why but it frustrates me tremendously that this isn't Uncommon.
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Entropic posted:Note: Slivers died on the way back to their home plane. Rath was overlaid on Dominaria, so Dominaria is the Slivers' home plane now.
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mandatory lesbian posted:if they bring back slivers we get the lovely human-looking ones instead of the cool ones so i'm not really so hype for them no they realized they hosed up with that one.
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clamiam45 posted:Holy cow this seems amazing in any format with fetches. The problem is in fetchland formats you often push your manabase to the point where you can't afford many colourless lands. Running this means you're not running, say, Gavony Township, Ghost Quarter, Vault of the Archangel, stuff like that. I don't think it's going to see play in this Standard either, as most decks which are likely to have lands in their graveyard and might want a land-that's-also-a-threat would probably prefer Westvale Abbey. After rotation it might fit in, since there will still be cycling lands around to fuel it.
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This set gives off the same vibe as the ingest/process stuff from bfz. Except deserts aren't as ubiquitous as exiling people's stuff, so a lot of the cards don't look great. This feels like it's going to be unexpectedly good in some random deck somewhere though.
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Mezzanon posted:Aetherling could definitely make itself unblockable. My quote was meant to say that Pearl Lake Ancient had no evasion. That's my bad.
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odiv posted:Or "slivers you control" gain an ability instead of all of them. I don't know why people harped on that so much. It so rarely came up but the new look of slivers was the worst thing that's ever happened to magic.
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Angry Grimace posted:Aetherling is completely invincible unless you have a Pithing Needle out naming Aetherling I Doom Bladed an AEtherling in Standard and it died.
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Pontius Pilate posted:I don't know why people harped on that so much. It so rarely came up but the new look of slivers was the worst thing that's ever happened to magic. My nostalgia for a game I didn't start playing until a month before Shards of Alara came out was ruined, god drat it!
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Angry Grimace posted:Aetherling is completely invincible unless you have a Pithing Needle out naming Aetherling A little hyperbolic, but not much. Aetherling is probably the best 9 mana creature every printed Some Numbers posted:I Doom Bladed an AEtherling in Standard and it died. I think I successfully killed an aetherling twice while it was In standard, but I definitely successfully raced it several times by using removal spells to take it out of combat and buy a turn.
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Pontius Pilate posted:I don't know why people harped on that so much. It so rarely came up but the new look of slivers was the worst thing that's ever happened to magic. But yeah, it's not like it made any real difference to me.
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I killed an Aetherling with Dismember 2 games in a row. In legacy. A few weeks ago.
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Hellsau posted:
isn't that Alchemist's Refuge?
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