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Baloogan: Dec 5, 2004; Fun Shoe

you can't nail down trump's position and his momentum at the same time

# ? Jun 21, 2017 11:29

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FactsAreUseless: Feb 16, 2011

You can't win elections by running against a candidate. Of course Ossoff lost. I don't know how much clearer this has to be.

# ? Jun 21, 2017 11:31

ass cobra: May 28, 2004; by Azathoth

2018 when dems pick up three seats in the house and lose five in the senate will be the victory we're waiting for

# ? Jun 21, 2017 11:32

brugroffil: Nov 30, 2015

Turns out I know this guy!

# ? Jun 21, 2017 11:33

pyrotek: May 21, 2004

FactsAreUseless posted:

You can't win elections by running against a candidate. Of course Ossoff lost. I don't know how much clearer this has to be.

I don't remember him mentioning Trump once in all of the ads I saw.

I think he was more running as Republican-lite without explicitly stating positions except generic bullshit like "eliminating waste"

# ? Jun 21, 2017 11:33

FactsAreUseless: Feb 16, 2011

pyrotek posted:

I don't remember him mentioning Trump once in all of the ads I saw.

I think he was more running as Republican-lite without explicitly stating positions except generic bullshit like "eliminating waste"

This didn't help, but I don't think it's even his fault. The national party turned it into a referendum on Trump, and that is never, ever going to win a congressional seat.

# ? Jun 21, 2017 11:35

Serf: May 5, 2011

i think that in the end, people don't like being wrong, and there will be tons of people who support trump to the very end because of that. way more than people who choose to die on the democrat hill

# ? Jun 21, 2017 11:37

Baloogan: Dec 5, 2004; Fun Shoe

trump is inspiring

also he makes liberals sooooo maaaad :drac:

# ? Jun 21, 2017 11:38

deadgoon: Dec 4, 2014; by FactsAreUseless

i prefer it when communists make liberals mad

# ? Jun 21, 2017 11:40

HUGE PUBES A PLUS: Apr 30, 2005

FactsAreUseless posted:

I don't understand why everyone's going all day crew over a race that was never going to swing Dem

The GOP spent horrendous amounts of money and sank to new lows in advertising to hang on to a seat Handel should have waltzed into. Once the Senate is done completely loving up health care more Americans might give a poo poo.

# ? Jun 21, 2017 11:40

FactsAreUseless: Feb 16, 2011

We need to see through all the so-called "substance" of elections to their shallow, stupid heart.

# ? Jun 21, 2017 11:40

brugroffil: Nov 30, 2015

Baloogan posted:

trump is inspiring

also he makes liberals sooooo maaaad

Yep, and that the main motivation beyond conservative politics for awhile now

# ? Jun 21, 2017 11:40

deadgoon: Dec 4, 2014; by FactsAreUseless

liberals are bad and the problem with conservatism is not that it's anti-liberal but that it can't actually hurt them

# ? Jun 21, 2017 11:43

Baloogan: Dec 5, 2004; Fun Shoe

brugroffil posted:

Yep, and that the main motivation beyond conservative politics for awhile now

hey you guys get your licks in by executing millions of babies :shrug:

that also gets people pretty mad

# ? Jun 21, 2017 11:43

deadgoon: Dec 4, 2014; by FactsAreUseless

omg nobody is executing babies

that would imply they were convicted of a crime

this is simply murder

# ? Jun 21, 2017 11:45

Stinky Wizzleteats: Nov 26, 2015; Can't post for 5 days!

most of those babies deserved to die

# ? Jun 21, 2017 11:45

stuffed crust punk: Oct 8, 2004; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Arms_Akimbo posted:

Trip report from northern Kansas and southern Nebraska:

- One town has so little money for infrastructure that the pavement has worn away from most of their streets, revealing the old cobblestone roads beneath. Instead of raising money and fixing them, they renamed their annual carnival "Cobblestone Fest."

- Corporate farming has bought up a huge amount of farmland and put windmills on them to cut energy costs. The locals have put up spray painted pressboard signs saying "windmills are ruining our view." Meanwhile their lawns are all full of old rusted junk.

- You still can't buy beer in Kansas on Sunday because Jesus said so, and the beer you can buy the other six days off the week is required by law to have less than 3.2% alcohol.

- It costs my in-laws $600 a year for tags for their car, and it costs $525 to enroll your kid in public school, and they're fine with that as long as taxes stay low.

- My in-laws are about to either lose their health insurance or not be able to afford premiums if the GOP plan passes. When my dad found them a plan that would save them $1000+ a month, they ignored him.

- According to whatever fountain of bullshit they get their information from, either my mother in law can't work or they will lose my father in law's social security. Even if that were true and they divorced and kept separate finances, Kansas would still consider them common law in six months time.

- Their kitchen is covered in "God Bless America" signage.

I went to my cousin's wedding in Kansas's version of Silent Hill in 2012 like a week after the election. I saw my aunt and uncle for the first time in over a decade and within minutes my uncle was telling me how he "had no problem with the black man but he needed to know his place"

# ? Jun 21, 2017 11:45

Lawman 0: Aug 17, 2010

HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:

The GOP spent horrendous amounts of money and sank to new lows in advertising to hang on to a seat Handel should have waltzed into. Once the Senate is done completely loving up health care more Americans might give a poo poo.

They still won

# ? Jun 21, 2017 11:45

pyrotek: May 21, 2004

FactsAreUseless posted:

This didn't help, but I don't think it's even his fault. The national party turned it into a referendum on Trump, and that is never, ever going to win a congressional seat.

You're looking nationally, I'm looking locally. Of course, he was never going to win that seat either way.

In 2014 I went to an organizational meeting for Michelle Nunn when she was running against David Perdue. People asked about specific positions a few times and the response was always that she wouldn't be revealing her positions on issues until closer to the election because they didn't want their opponent to use them against her.

It was a singularly uninspiring meeting. I went in looking to volunteer and left knowing not to waste my time. If your policy is so bad that you don't want to reveal it, you are never going to win a race.

Ossoff reminded me of that quite a bit.

# ? Jun 21, 2017 11:46

FactsAreUseless: Feb 16, 2011

Baloogan posted:

hey you guys get your licks in by executing millions of babies

that also gets people pretty mad

I think abortifacients should cause fetal tissue to be ejected from the body like a t-shirt from a cannon, and I think we should make it into a national sport.

# ? Jun 21, 2017 11:46

pyrotek: May 21, 2004

Baloogan posted:

trump is inspiring

also he makes liberals sooooo maaaad

He really is to the people he wants to inspire. It is his greatest strength

# ? Jun 21, 2017 11:47

FactsAreUseless: Feb 16, 2011

pyrotek posted:

You're looking nationally, I'm looking locally. Of course, he was never going to win that seat either way.

And it's a legit perspective, but the party turned it in to a national election.

# ? Jun 21, 2017 11:47

FactsAreUseless: Feb 16, 2011

Call it "executing" a baby, and liberals are all "waaahhhh, we don't do that!" But call it "Mexicuting" a baby, and liberals are like "YASS KWEEN, SLAY INNOCENT BABIES!" Hypocrisy!

# ? Jun 21, 2017 11:49