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Pollyanna posted:I'm just sick of getting blueballed on this Russia poo poo. Well it's probably going to take minimum months if not a year for this to all shake out, so be prepared to have balls bluer than the deepest indigo. Prepare for 「Stygian Blue Balls 」. 
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TARDISman posted:Isn't the reason they're ramming AHCA through is because McConnell's doesn't want town halls scaring the piss out of already nervous Republican senators? No, it's because the AHCA is the least popular legislation since TARP, and the less time the press has to cover its details the less damage it does to the GOP right now. Consider further that they're going to phase it in over several years to attempt to limit the real damage before the 2018/2020 elections and punt the blame for cutting out popular provisions to the state legislature by writing those cuts in as waiver options. Public opinion on this has them spooked. Not enough to prevent action, but enough to attempt to mitigate the damage.
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hanales posted:Total derail for this thread but that's sad to hear. The uranium thing is on point, isn't it bairoil that had the uranium and they just shut it down at some point? I actually installed some IT stuff for a little Riverton casino like, 9 years ago or so when I lived in Rawlins. The biggest state programs in Wyoming are the department of family services and the department of education. And you bet your rear end that they've been swinging at it like a pinata with an axe since poo poo started going downhill in 2016. There have been layoffs all over the state's education system and there are likely more to come in the next biennium. The UW Outreach School is going away and a few majors have been eliminated because of low enrollment. Departments have been writing letters to the school's administration to validate their existence. I am told that a new high school that was built in Gillette was completed but will not be open for use because of funding cuts. Wyoming is a place where people running as libertarians actually have a chance to get seats in the legislature, but all they do is side with Republicans on everything. My best friend is a rancher in Jeffrey City and she and her husband don't even bother with Democratic primaries because they know the poor fucker has no chance, so they register as Republicans and try to get the least-worst person they can to be on the Republican ticket come election day, but vote straight ticket D when they're at the polls. The state knows very well that young people try to get out of Wyoming and never come back if they can and laments about it, but they won't do a god drat thing about keeping ambitious people in the state beyond making UW a cheap school to go to and the Hathaway Scholarship. Once they're done, they typically get as far away from here as they can. The only old people that like it here have money and are comfortable or are too broke and/or too xenophobic to get out. If my father hadn't died at the beginning of the year, my parents would have moved somewhere that he could go for kidney dialysis that wasn't a 45-mile drive away once my mother was able to retire. Now she just wants to get the gently caress out of the state when she's retired, pray her house sells to anybody for as much as she can get, and never come back.
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I don't see how Ossoff winning or losing would have changed the Republican Congressional agenda. If anything, him winning would have caused them to try to push things through faster. A loss certainly wouldn't stop them at this point, they're committed. But they're moving about as quickly as they can already. Only a halfway competent president would let them pass things faster.
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ImpAtom posted:No it isn't. We live in the real world. You have to toughen up and live only for yourself at this point. This isn't Obama's world. This isn't the 90s. This isn't the 2000s. This is the real world at this point in time. As a individual you have to look out for yourself at this point in time with republicans in power. That means doing whatever you have to to make more than $75,000 a year to be able to afford health insurance and take care of yourself in your family. Be a hit man, run drugs, bribe politicians. It literally doesn't loving matter - you do what you have to. Drive to mexico for healthcare treatment, or Canada. Save as much money in the bank to survive that. Quit your job if you get sick and illegally cross into Canada. We're all out for ourselves here. This is what the world is reduced to. It's almost better that every single community clinic go out of business, people literally die and decay in the streets if that is the only thing that will bring around the change. Stack up the bodies of the dead homeless at the gated communities in the white suburban neighborhoods if you have to. There are no bars to be held. This is a all out brawl for your personal survival here. I'm not going to mince words. You do what you loving have to. And remember always that it's only illegal if you get caught.
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Also Republicans realized they can get away with "oh if I had known that was in the bill, I wouldn't have voted for it." Ignorance is an excuse that works for them.
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"We own you, Trump. Knock it off or we release piss tape" https://twitter.com/jillrussia/status/877565845807009792
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Pollyanna posted:So basically, the 2016, election was the chance for Democrats to gain in the House and Senate, they hosed it up, and they won't have a chance to swing it back till 2020 at the earliest? Yeah, I don't think it's really hit people yet (at least ITT) just how much Hillary botched the election and how disastrous the consequences of that bungling are.
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Teriyaki Koinku posted:Yeah, I don't think it's really hit people yet (at least ITT) just how much Hillary botched the election and how disastrous the consequences of that bungling are. I think the only solution is to kick her and nancy pelosi out of the party.
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Teriyaki Koinku posted:Yeah, I don't think it's really hit people yet (at least ITT) just how much Hillary botched the election and how disastrous the consequences of that bungling are. I'm spending all my hate on the millions of Americans who knew who and what Trump was, but voted for him anyway.
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ISeeCuckedPeople posted:I think the only solution is to kick her and nancy pelosi out of the party. Why Pelosi? I thought she was doing exactly what she is suppose to be doing.
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Jun 21, 2017 17:51
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This is not Glengarry Glen Ross and you are not Alec Baldwin, go jump off a bridge.
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boner confessor posted:and? ossoff got a higher proportion of the vote than hillary. he got closer to winning. at least you're not talking about how the sky itself is collapsing now that i've given you a makework job of moving goalposts about No one is moving the goalposts. The point is that there will be no Democratic wave in 2018, and I stand by that. The Democrats needed a win, not a loss by smaller margins than the previous time, to keep the momentum going into 2018. People on the left are not waking up to the headlines of a loss and feeling energized that it wasn't a 20 point blowout. 10,000 more votes in GA-6 would not be indicative of Democratic wave either, but it would set the narrative that if the left maintains the much talked about level of energy and dedication to winning back the House, they can win deep red seats, and succeed. Resources and energy are going to be critical, and so far "the resistance" has nothing to show. No one cares about losing by less than expected. Why would someone donate time and money for the Democrats to lose by less than before in 2018? Democrats already don't vote in midterms, and a lot of fights liberals care about will already be over long before November 2018. What is going to be the incentive to get people to the polls in 2018? A lot of people are going to see the constant losses and disengage until 2020 when they can go and vote against Trump. In our day to day lives, nothing has changed from a week ago or a month ago, but anyone trying to spin last night's result as positive for Democrats is no better than the crew at the The Young Turks who spent a year telling us that Trump would be better for progressive causes than Hillary.
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I'm late to the "post your medical problem" party but I was born with hydrocephalus so I have a plastic tube in my head. My brain is actually broken.
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ISeeCuckedPeople posted:We live in the real world. You have to toughen up and live only for yourself at this point. You are an insane person.
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Jun 21, 2017 17:54
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Rigel posted:"We own you, Trump. Knock it off or we release piss tape" There is no piss tape that could actually damage him. That's why the Russians haven't released it yet, because the US believes in associative truth and there's nothing that can stop that once he just says Fake News.
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Burning_Monk posted:Why Pelosi? I thought she was doing exactly what she is suppose to be doing. She has spent most of the DNC money protecting that loving mouse! We put shrimp on treadmills, they got stronger and are now chasing that mouse! We build more elaborate constructs to protect it but they just grow more clever with each iteration!
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Crabtree posted:There is no piss tape that could actually damage him. That's why the Russians haven't released it yet, because the US believes in associative truth and there's nothing that can stop that once he just says Fake News. I think it actually would damage him. Just hearing something or reading about it isn't enough for most Americans. (See the Ray Rice tape situation.) For whatever reason, people can read and hear someone is terrible but they need to see them actually be terrible to turn on them.
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I just realized what the only piss-tape content could be that would actually sink Trump: Obama pissing on him.
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ISeeCuckedPeople posted:We live in the real world. You have to toughen up and live only for yourself at this point.
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Jun 21, 2017 18:00
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Tir McDohl posted:The perfect excuse for Trump to sell it off to Russia. Peeward's Folly
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Spacebump posted:I think it actually would damage him. Just hearing something or reading about it isn't enough for most Americans. (See the Ray Rice tape situation.) For whatever reason, people can read and hear someone is terrible but they need to see them actually be terrible to turn on them. It would hurt Trump's feelings, but the system is so labyrinthine that the government and RWM would spin it as a good thing even as their retard king makes the angry tweets again.
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Jun 21, 2017 18:01
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To be fair i don't think he's inciting violence except possibly as a vocational necessity.
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ISeeCuckedPeople posted:You have to toughen up and live only for yourself at this point. This is an intensely silly statement.
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Dick Trauma posted:I just realized what the only piss-tape content could be that would actually sink Trump: Interracial cuckold video with Melania
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skylined! posted:i said there was a strategy, and arguing whether or not it was good or working is worthwhile. That would, in fact, be bad because of all the centrist Democrats who would get in and also because if we'd run more progressively we'd take the Senate. And if by some bizarre miracle we take the Senate, we'd have taken it by more.
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Rigel posted:"We own you, Trump. Knock it off or we release piss tape" I read this in my head in a Russian accent and now I can't stop giggling.
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A district that has GOP margins of 20+ for decades having an election where they instead win by < 4 being interpreted as "yeah the comeback isn't happening we're doomed" ... is like getting winter snow in an area for one week when historically it usually got snow for many weeks, and saying "well it still snowed so that settles all this global warming nonsense". Keep in mind if you gerrymander when you are behind demographically, you are basically giving your opponent some districts and packing them as full to 100% of their votes as possible, and you can win the rest of the districts by stacking them so you have comfortable but not ample margins. The only downside to this is if there is--oh, i don't know--a 15-20 point swing nationwide, you are spread thin and are going to take a bath. The only districts you keep are ones like GA-6.
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Watch there be a piss tape and it's something else on the piss tape that sinks him, rather than the piss stuff itself.
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Blitz7x posted:Interracial cuckold video with Melania Hired impersonators of Obama's whole family while he looks up at the presidential image of 44 all over the room in his tomb of piss. The audio is scrambled speeches and Trump frustrated that he couldn't get the real deal to tinkle on him. Trump needed Obama to piss on him, because that's how he'd get the previous president's skills to pass on to him! Crabtree fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Jun 21, 2017 |
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FuturePastNow posted:I don't see how Ossoff winning or losing would have changed the Republican Congressional agenda. People will point out that the Democrats are losing by less than usual, implying a Democratic surge; however, they're still losing. Hate for the Republicans' policies and hate for Trump simply isn't translating into support for Democrats. On top of that, Democrats already have trouble in mid-term elections, while Republicans are extremely loyal voters. It doesn't bode well for 2018.
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Paradoxish posted:Obama's administration had this intelligence and also didn't act publicly on it. Ol Turtle McConnel threatened to politicize it if the O admin had said anything, which would have slam dunked the election for them even more
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Crows Turn Off posted:To me, it's about seeing actual tangible consequences of the Republicans' extremely unpopular policies and Trump's record-low approval ratings. So far, these things haven't actually produced any electoral wins for Democrats. Trump barely won GA-06 in 2016 and he's currently disliked by the vast majority of the population, Handel is fully on-board the Trump train and literally said out-loud that she doesn't believe in a living wage, the GA-06 seat became the most expensive House race in history - all of these factors means that GA-06 should be have been a grab for the Democrats. That's the root of the issue, right leaning people that hate Trump don't vote left, they just don't vote.
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Blitz7x posted:Interracial cuckold video with Melania A video where Trump sits down on the edge of his bed, pulls off his wig to reveal a normal head of hair, then unzips his fat suit, displaying a trim, fit body. With a sponge he wipes off the noxious orange makeup and then puts on a terrycloth robe. He stretches out on the bed and cracks open a book on the suffragette movement while sipping weak tea and snacking on dried soybeans. 
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I really suspect the shooting last week had a large effect on this election. College educated suburban Republicans might balk a bit at some of the the cultural resentment the party pushes but "Gosh aren't liberals taking it too far" is a game the most elite of Republicans are happy to play.
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Bhaal posted:A district that has GOP margins of 20+ for decades having an election where they instead win by < 4 being interpreted as "yeah the comeback isn't happening we're doomed" ... is like getting winter snow in an area for one week when historically it usually got snow for many weeks, and saying "well it still snowed so that settles all this global warming nonsense". The district (by Cook's PVI) is really just R+8. Its not really +15 or +20 if you don't have a multi-term incumbent. We only did a few points better than expected for an open contested election between 2 new candidates.
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Rigel posted:The district (by Cook's PVI) is really just R+8. Its not really +15 or +20 if you don't have a multi-term incumbent. We only did a few points better than expected for an open contested election between 2 new candidates. Look the way D's win isn't by increasing turnout in a district like this, it's by taking advantage of the naturally suppressed turnout of a party in power enacting unpopular legislation with a literal man child at the helm. The D's dumped so much money and drew so much attention to the race it had a bigger turnout than the last midterm.
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McConnell's demonic health care bill will lurch forth from its secret fetid swamp, hissing at the light of day tomorrow morning https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/877570939403350018
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Rigel posted:McConnell's demonic health care bill will lurch forth from its secret fetid swamp, hissing at the light of day tomorrow morning Then it will be voted on a few hours later, with almost no debate and little public knowledge.
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Abilifier posted:Then it will be voted on a few hours later, with almost no debate and little public knowledge. The plan is still to vote next week.
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