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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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Serotonin
Jul 14, 2001

The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of *blank*

Crowsbeak posted:

All this disgusting food talk makes me think Napoleon should have invaded your island.

Agreed.

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Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Senor Tron posted:



This tells me exactly how seriously to take any Americans opinions on French Toast.

Point of order! Americans generally hate these things too.

I know this is the Limey thread so laughing at Americans is the rule of the day, but I will not accept any implications of inferior french toast from a nation that can't make decent pancakes.

UrbicaMortis
Feb 16, 2012

Hmm, how shall I post today?

Crowsbeak posted:

All this disgusting food talk makes me think Napoleon should have invaded your island.

The Directory gave it a crack but sadly I don't think most of the captured soldiers were chefs:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Fishguard

mehall
Aug 27, 2010


Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Point of order! Americans generally hate these things too.

I know this is the Limey thread so laughing at Americans is the rule of the day, but I will not accept any implications of inferior french toast from a nation that can't make decent pancakes.

You better only be referring to the constituent countries south of Hadrians wall as, whilst not the great size of the american breakfast staple, scotch pancakes are excellent.

TheHoodedClaw
Jul 26, 2008

Ed Miliband on Radio 2 with Barney from Napalm Death. I seem to have woken up from a coma into a very strange new reality.

https://twitter.com/BBCRadio2/status/877532985565818880

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
My only worry is that May will somehow cobble together a working majority and manage to hang on until Corbyn's momentum (if you'll forgive the term) fizzles out. It's absolutely possible that after a few months of business as usual the enthusiasm will begin to fizzle out and the next election will be another uphill struggle. Corbyn really needs to keep the pressure on, but he can only do that while his party stays united and perhaps more importantly the media isn't bored of him. His underdog upswing has made for a great news narrative which has kind of mitigated (alongside election broadcast rules) the press hostility to him ideologically, and I'm concerned they'll now just go back to alternating between ignoring him and releasing hit-pieces.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

TheHoodedClaw posted:

Ed Miliband on Radio 2 with Barney from Napalm Death. I seem to have woken up from a coma into a very strange new reality.

https://twitter.com/BBCRadio2/status/877532985565818880

I'm slowly coming around to my mate's theory that something they did at the LHC is exponentially increasing the global supply of weirdness.

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

mehall posted:

You better only be referring to the constituent countries south of Hadrians wall as, whilst not the great size of the american breakfast staple, scotch pancakes are excellent.

Can't disagree there, the effort to enjoyment ratio is golden as well. I have to concede breakfast though, from my experience American breakfasts blow ours out of the water. Of course if you eat the full range of US breakfasts regularly, you'll likely be in an early grave but I don't think British breakfasts are all that much better.

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

TheHoodedClaw posted:

Ed Miliband on Radio 2 with Barney from Napalm Death. I seem to have woken up from a coma into a very strange new reality.

https://twitter.com/BBCRadio2/status/877532985565818880

You Suffer is also my favourite Napalm Death song Ed

Hidingo Kojimba
Mar 29, 2010

Renaissance Robot posted:

I'm going to start renting a flat in a couple of months, and I'm kinda rusty on the subject of my rights. I'll be heading down to the CAB today but I wanted to ask here as well if I could.

I'm moving in 5 days before the end of July, about a month after the last tenant clears out, and the landlady initially said that was fine and would give her the opportunity to do some maintenance. In a later email she said I'll only be liable for bills from the date I move in, but she wants rent for the whole of July. I'll be paying August just a week later, and with the deposit as well I'll be out over £1200 pretty much all at once. (I know that's not much to some of you, but it's a lot to me)

I haven't yet signed anything, and won't have done until a few days before I move in. What scope do I have for talking her down to accepting the equivalent of 1 week's rent for July? I assume that before I sign the answer is "none whatsoever" and after it would depend on the wording of the contract?

Honestly? If you're wanting a general overview of tenant's rights (such as they are in this glorious free-market neoliberal utopia of ours) I'd recommend giving the Shelter helpline a ring. It's freephone 0808 800 4444.

Short answer though: Basically you've got nothing other than the landlady's goodwill until you actually enter into a contract. The landlady's unlikely to be obliged to give you a tenancy until they've contracted to do so.

Heck if you want to get really technical an interest in land that doesn't take effect in possession (i.e. an agreement to enter into a tenancy in the future) isn't actually a legal interest unless it's by deed. Although that's mostly just me showing off as if you can prove you've got an agreement and money's changed hands etc then chances are a court will enforce the agreement under equity.

The rent in advance thing: One thing to look out for is to make sure that the rent in advance is actually being used as rent. If it's money that's being taken with the implication that it will be refunded to you if you don't breach the contract then it's a deposit, no matter what words the contract uses. (As opposed to you never getting it back because it's the rent, presumably with the implication you won't be paying rent for your final period in the tenancy cause you're already in credit, that's rent in advance.) Deposits are subject to various protection requirements if you're an assured shorthold tenant, and it has various implications for the landlady's ability to serve notice and liability for compensation if she doesn't protect it properly. Doesn't necessarily mean you want to get into an argument with the landlady about it immediately, but it's worth keeping in mind if poo poo ever hits the fan.

Really though, you're best off talking to an actual housing adviser, not just some rando on the internet.

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends
Southampton City Council have started retrofitting sprinklers to all their tower blocks. I assume other councils are following suit?

Gorn Myson
Aug 8, 2007






TheHoodedClaw posted:

Ed Miliband on Radio 2 with Barney from Napalm Death. I seem to have woken up from a coma into a very strange new reality.

https://twitter.com/BBCRadio2/status/877532985565818880
For a second I thought that this is where Corbyn ends up in two years time, but then I realised that hes more likely to end up as co-presenter of Gardeners' World with Monty Don and...I'm pretty happy with that.

Extreme0
Feb 28, 2013

I dance to the sweet tune of your failure so I'm never gonna stop fucking with you.

Continue to get confused and frustrated with me as I dance to your anger.

As I expect nothing more from ya you stupid runt!


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/21/grenfell-tower-families-to-be-given-68-flats-in-luxury-apartment-complex

I would look and check the building for anything that's flammable.

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
if thats still in kensington and chelsea you would probably be the only one doing so

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/21/grenfell-tower-16-council-inspections-failed-to-stop-use-of-flammable-cladding

ultrabindu
Jan 28, 2009
https://twitter.com/SimonNRicketts/status/877589081802264576

dispatch_async
Nov 28, 2014

Imagine having the time to have played through 20 generations of one family in The Sims 2. Imagine making the original two members of that family Neil Buchanan and Cat Deeley. Imagine complaining to Maxis there was no technological progression. You've successfully imagined my life
^ :argh:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08tvjfq

Eddie Mair interview with Boris Johnson from 25:50 onwards. Are we allowed to call this one a car crash?

WeAreTheRomans
Feb 23, 2010

by R. Guyovich

What an absolutely clueless arsehole. Glad Bojos finally getting the treatment that was previously reserved for Dat Boy.

Latitude Ocotpus
Nov 17, 2009
I work for a company which maintains a fire systems and door entry systems for a lot of local authorities in North Wales and the north west . We have already seen a lot of panic from housing about the state of thier annual fire checks , fire doors with faults gone back months which weren't reported etc etc.

At least after the fire in London it appears everyone is desperate to provide proper fire security for multi occupancy buildings and high rises. I'm hoping this means more local authorities are following suit.

Also watched Corbyn speech feels very much like a bollocking from your parents . Proud.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-

TheHoodedClaw posted:

Ed Miliband on Radio 2 with Barney from Napalm Death. I seem to have woken up from a coma into a very strange new reality.

https://twitter.com/BBCRadio2/status/877532985565818880

lmao

dispatch_async
Nov 28, 2014

Imagine having the time to have played through 20 generations of one family in The Sims 2. Imagine making the original two members of that family Neil Buchanan and Cat Deeley. Imagine complaining to Maxis there was no technological progression. You've successfully imagined my life
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/21/rehousing-of-grenfell-tower-families-in-luxury-block-meets-mixed-response

quote:

Two miles south of the charred skeleton of Grenfell Tower is a large complex of sleek new apartments that some of those displaced by last week’s inferno will soon be able to call home.

Kensington Row’s manicured lawns, clipped trees and burbling fountains are a haven from the rumbling traffic of two busy London thoroughfares, and its spacious, air-conditioned foyers a relief from June’s oppressive heatwave.

Four unfinished blocks house the 68 flats purchased by the Corporation of London for families who lost their homes in Grenfell Tower. Workmen had been instructed not to talk to the media, but one said there was now a rush to complete the building work. “It’s a brilliant idea,” he said of the resettlement plan.

Among those exercising dogs and small children, the views were more mixed. “It’s so unfair,” said Maria, who was reading the news in the Evening Standard with two neighbours.

She bought her flat two years ago for a sum she was unwilling to disclose. “We paid a lot of money to live here, and we worked hard for it. Now these people are going to come along, and they won’t even be paying the service charge.”

Nick, who pays £2,500 a month rent for a one-bedroom flat in the complex, also expressed doubts about the plan. “Who are the real tenants of Grenfell Tower?” he asked. “It seems as though a lot of flats there were sublet. Now the people whose names are on the tenancies will get rehoused here, and then they’ll rent the flats out on the private market. And the people who were actually living unofficially in the tower at the time of the fire won’t get rehoused.

“I’m very sad that people have lost their homes, but there are a lot of people here who have bought flats and will now see the values drop. It will degrade things. And it opens up a can of worms in the housing market.”

Maw
Feb 18, 2013

Mere minutes after discovering the new technology, it was used to send me a crude ASCII dong.



:thermidor:

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Ugh, liberal bourgies don't want their house value to plummet, so I guess we'll keep the victims of that awful fire on the street or move them to Preston! What a bunch of assholes, as expected from the rich.

On a more positive note, I love Ed. Is it too late to join the Milifandom?

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.

i hope this happens lots more and all the hyacinth buckets of the nation can cry me swimming pools full of delicious, soul nourishing tears

quidditch it and quit it
Oct 11, 2012


Whoa-ho-holy gently caress that is an amazing show of empathy

Tsaedje
May 11, 2007

BRAWNY BUTTONS 4 LYFE
Will nobody think of the property values?

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Gorn Myson
Aug 8, 2007






First they came for the empty properties owned by billionaire tax dodgers, but I did not speak up.

Mugsbaloney
Jul 11, 2012

We prefer your extinction to the loss of our job

Baron Corbyn posted:

corbyn bomaye

Yesss

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry
B-but how can people have THING if they didn't work as hard* as I did for it????

*has never worked in their miserable life

team overhead smash
Sep 2, 2006

Team-Forest-Tree-Dog:
Smashing your way into our hearts one skylight at a time

So what is this law that made the cladding illegal? It appears no-one heard of any such law in the first few days after the fire, but it got brought up a few days ago without any reference to the actual law in question and has just been accepted as gospel since then without any questioning.

jabby
Oct 27, 2010


The fact that a Tory government has been forced into this rather than simply brushing aside objections and scattering the victims across the country is a testament to the brilliant opposition Corbyn provides.

Also apparently he wasn't kidding about staying in permanent campaign mode, since he's still doing these clips:
https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/877604197956562945

Is he getting younger and more handsome, or is it just me?

Bryter
Nov 6, 2011

but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers

Crowsbeak posted:

All this disgusting food talk makes me think Napoleon should have invaded your island.

Yeah no poo poo

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009
*is a degenerate frenchman*
*puts chocolate on literally everything*
Haute cuisine indeed

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Yes, I know this thread loves Corbyn very much, but have you considered.... this

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
If you ever question your life choices, step back and think for a second about the fact that the 12 year old Tory MP for North Derbyshire, who only got voted in because no one liked the blairite Labour MP, still lives in Hasland and put his real address on the ballot paper.

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

communism bitch posted:

*is a degenerate frenchman*
*puts chocolate on literally everything*
Haute cuisine indeed
Any illusions I had about French culinary superiority vanished when I saw how much Nutella they eat

EmptyVessel
Oct 30, 2012

Burn them, burn them all.


Anyone who feels the need to practise plain and fancy swearing might want to listen to the Moral Maze about Grenfell. Anyone with blood pressure concerns should probably avoid it.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

A Labour leader literally coming out and saying 'hey austerity is a choice', who could have imagined this a few years ago

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

quote:

Nick, who pays £2,500 a month rent for a one-bedroom flat in the complex, also expressed doubts about the plan. “Who are the real tenants of Grenfell Tower?” he asked. “It seems as though a lot of flats there were sublet. Now the people whose names are on the tenancies will get rehoused here, and then they’ll rent the flats out on the private market. And the people who were actually living unofficially in the tower at the time of the fire won’t get rehoused.
I agree with the nice Guardian liberals. The people who were unofficially subletting or couch surfing at Grenfeld should get rehoused there too.

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Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

baka kaba posted:

A Labour leader literally coming out and saying 'hey austerity is a choice', who could have imagined this a few years ago

Why, I spit out my cuppa

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