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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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jabby posted:Also apparently he wasn't kidding about staying in permanent campaign mode, since he's still doing these clips: This was no simple title match. This a full on last man standing match. Slugging it out til the bitter end. Only, no one seems to have May yet. What a shame. Edit: 592: Battle of Woden's Burg, according to Wiki (I'm bad at this, sorry goons). DroneRiff fucked around with this message at 20:36 on Jun 21, 2017 |
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If the queen forgot the speech and started making stuff up would the government still have to do it?
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Jun 21, 2017 20:34
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Guavanaut posted:I agree with the nice Guardian liberals. The people who were unofficially subletting or couch surfing at Grenfeld should get rehoused there too. I like how this dude is trying to make out like it was just slum lords all the way down
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Jun 21, 2017 20:35
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Captain No-mates posted:If the queen forgot the speech and started making stuff up would the government still have to do it? As this current government shows, when something happens it's not meant to people just kind of go "Er." and try and work around it.
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Jun 21, 2017 20:36
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Rygar201 posted:I like how this dude is trying to make out like it was just slum lords all the way down And those people are homeless now and deserve houses too.
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Jun 21, 2017 20:41
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So am I insane or is there a very grim number being missed here? 68 flats "acquired" (how much do you want to bet central government is still paying the "affordable" (hah!) rents on them?) to rehouse the survivors of the 127-dwelling Grenfell Tower, which means either actually a lot of other people are still going to end up being moved to the ends of the earth, or... 61 flats had no survivors.
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Jun 21, 2017 20:42
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Taintrunner posted:Why, I spit out my cuppa
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Jun 21, 2017 20:42
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/21/exclusive-dup-broke-talks-tories-36-hours-week-demand-2billion/ The Democratic Unionist Party broke off talks with Theresa May this week as it told her to spend Ł2billion in Northern Ireland if she wants the party to prop up her minority Conservative Government. The DUP demanded the cash – which works out as Ł1,100 per person in the Province - as talks veered dangerously close to breaking down altogether. The talks became so strained in the past few days that the DUP negotiators in Belfast refused to pick up the phone to the Prime Minister’s team for 36 hours, The Daily Telegraph can disclose. Westminster sources said they now hoped a “confidence and supply” deal could be agreed next week, days before Thursday’s key vote on the Queen’s Speech. The talks have been held together personally by Gavin Williamson, the chief whip, and Damian Green, Mrs May’s right hand man in the Government. Lol
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Jun 21, 2017 20:45
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team overhead smash posted:So what is this law that made the cladding illegal? It appears no-one heard of any such law in the first few days after the fire, but it got brought up a few days ago without any reference to the actual law in question and has just been accepted as gospel since then without any questioning. https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/441669/BR_PDF_AD_B2_2013.pdf quote:External fire spread
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Jun 21, 2017 20:47
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Man the DUP have some brass ones, don't they?
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Rygar201 posted:Man the DUP have some brass ones, don't they? aye, in a football sock sometimes its snooker balls instead
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Jun 21, 2017 20:48
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Bryter posted:https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/441669/BR_PDF_AD_B2_2013.pdf You may as well write a regulation that states "the building shall not burn down, having regard to the use and position of the building".
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JFairfax posted:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/21/exclusive-dup-broke-talks-tories-36-hours-week-demand-2billion/ quote:A source said: “They stopped answering their phones. It went on for 36 hours. Number 10 is putting in calls and they are not answering their phones.” Strong and stable coalition of chaos god Tzeench
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Jun 21, 2017 20:49
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communism bitch posted:You may as well write a regulation that states "the building shall not burn down, having regard to the use and position of the building". Also the landlords. In the same cell.
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Jun 21, 2017 20:50
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communism bitch posted:You may as well write a regulation that states "the building shall not burn down, having regard to the use and position of the building". Eh, not really. Merely that the materials shall resist the spread of fire. The cladding in the tower most assuredly did not.
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Jun 21, 2017 20:50
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Rygar201 posted:Man the DUP have some brass ones, don't they? being a junior partner in a coalition (regardless of how formally it's a coalition) loving sucks - they essentially have lots of leverage right now. once they've put their senior partner into power, they get all the blame and none of the credit, except for the concessions they get right now- the longer they prop up the senior partner, the stronger this effect gets. they're well aware they risk getting lib demmed even harder, since they could lose a ton of ground in their regional parliament too (stormont? gently caress i'm bad at NI)
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Jun 21, 2017 20:52
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CoolCab posted:they're well aware they risk getting lib demmed even harder, since they could lose a ton of ground in their regional parliament too (stormont? gently caress i'm bad at NI)
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Jun 21, 2017 20:54
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Guavanaut posted:That's a good law. Arrest the fire. Should've lined the cell with aluminium and done a proper job.
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Jun 21, 2017 20:54
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goddamnedtwisto posted:So am I insane or is there a very grim number being missed here? 68 flats "acquired" (how much do you want to bet central government is still paying the "affordable" (hah!) rents on them?) to rehouse the survivors of the 127-dwelling Grenfell Tower, which means either actually a lot of other people are still going to end up being moved to the ends of the earth, or... 61 flats had no survivors. I believe this is the first tranche of support so the expectation is that there will be more coming, perhaps with more bedrooms as someone here said these are 1 or 2 bedrooms and Grenfell had some 4 beds (I think).
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Jun 21, 2017 20:58
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JFairfax posted:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/21/exclusive-dup-broke-talks-tories-36-hours-week-demand-2billion/ i'm quite impressed at this new season of the thick of it being filmed in real time
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Jun 21, 2017 20:59
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I've never seen The Thick of It. I saw maybe the first 5 minutes of it once and it just seemed like witless sweary poo poo being sweary for the sake of it. Errybody talks about it like it's the second coming of Yes, Minister though. Maybe I need to give it a proper go.
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Jun 21, 2017 21:00
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CoolCab posted:being a junior partner in a coalition (regardless of how formally it's a coalition) loving sucks - they essentially have lots of leverage right now. once they've put their senior partner into power, they get all the blame and none of the credit, except for the concessions they get right now- the longer they prop up the senior partner, the stronger this effect gets. It's not a coalition, though, it's confidence and supply. They'll have a ton of leverage for as long as they're willing to take part. And the idea that they'll lose ground in Stormont because of this seems unlikely to say the least. They're keeping a ra sympathising pinko out of government after all, that's going to play well with unionists back home.
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Jun 21, 2017 21:00
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DroneRiff posted:This was no simple title match. This a full on last man standing match. Slugging it out til the bitter end. Only, no one seems to have May yet. What a shame. The 'Conservative coalition of chaos' thing remains funny. Except they apparently are too poo poo to even manage that!
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Jun 21, 2017 21:01
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communism bitch posted:I've never seen The Thick of It. I saw maybe the first 5 minutes of it once and it just seemed like witless sweary poo poo being sweary for the sake of it. You've really missed out, however watching it now the sheer absurdity of some of the scenes will be lost as well, modern politics.
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Jun 21, 2017 21:01
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Bryter posted:And the idea that they'll lose ground in Stormont because of this seems unlikely to say the least. They're keeping a ra sympathising pinko out of government after all, that's going to play well with unionists back home. i am less convinced of this effect then it seems most are
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Jun 21, 2017 21:02
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communism bitch posted:I've never seen The Thick of It. I saw maybe the first 5 minutes of it once and it just seemed like witless sweary poo poo being sweary for the sake of it.
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Jun 21, 2017 21:03
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Rygar201 posted:Man the DUP have some brass ones, don't they? The DUPs success at the polls is because they are inflexible tough talkers who refuse to wind their neck in. We are still a pretty low level DUP theatrics. Next would probably be all their MPs skipping the queens speech for a day or something The crisis before the current crisis at stormont they had all their ministers resign except one, then had them continually retake their jobs and resign again in a never ending circle of resignation
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Jun 21, 2017 21:03
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CoolCab posted:i am less convinced of this effect then it seems most are identity politics bullshit has destroyed the SDLP and UUP. It matters.
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Jun 21, 2017 21:04
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Under FTPA couldn't the DUP technically vote down every piece of legislation the government proposes while propping it up in the confidence motions that follow?
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Jun 21, 2017 21:05
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communism bitch posted:I've never seen The Thick of It. I saw maybe the first 5 minutes of it once and it just seemed like witless sweary poo poo being sweary for the sake of it. Capaldi is loving stellar in it. It's funny to contrast it to his take on the Doctor.
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Jun 21, 2017 21:05
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kustomkarkommando posted:The crisis before the current crisis at stormont they had all their ministers resign except one, then had them continually retake their jobs and resign again in a never ending circle of resignation
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Jun 21, 2017 21:06
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kustomkarkommando posted:The DUPs success at the polls is because they are inflexible tough talkers who refuse to wind their neck in. Parliamentary Politics is truly the best 
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Jun 21, 2017 21:06
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I know of a family at Greenfell that have all all died (parents and baby still technically missing but..) except one little girl. The neighbours and school parents put up a donation page which hit 31k in under 2 days.  the coming together of the community after this thing is really heart warming, and it's a loving travesty and a testament to how poo poo the government is that they haven't done all this poo poo by themselves.
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Jun 21, 2017 21:06
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Under FTPA couldn't the DUP technically vote down every piece of legislation the government proposes while propping it up in the confidence motions that follow?
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Jun 21, 2017 21:07
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jBrereton posted:um oh, i absolutely think they matter, don't get me wrong. but i also think assuming they'll lockstep with may just to keep corbyn out regardless is a very dangerous assumption
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Jun 21, 2017 21:08
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communism bitch posted:I've never seen The Thick of It. I saw maybe the first 5 minutes of it once and it just seemed like witless sweary poo poo being sweary for the sake of it. It's worth a rewatch. The cinéma vérité style can take a bit of getting used to, but it matches what they were going for. And yeah, Capaldi is loving brilliant in it; everyone is really.
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Jun 21, 2017 21:08
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CoolCab posted:they're well aware they risk getting lib demmed even harder, since they could lose a ton of ground in their regional parliament too (stormont? gently caress i'm bad at NI) Their main Unionist opposition is the UUP who's links to the Tories run a lot deeper (ran on a joint ticket in 2010, their ex-leader Trimble is a Tory peer, took the Tory whip until 1974) No one is going to buy the UUP as being harder on the Tories than the DUP
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Jun 21, 2017 21:09
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CoolCab posted:oh, i absolutely think they matter, don't get me wrong. but i also think assuming they'll lockstep with may just to keep corbyn out regardless is a very dangerous assumption
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Jun 21, 2017 21:09
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kustomkarkommando posted:The crisis before the current crisis at stormont they had all their ministers resign except one, then had them continually retake their jobs and resign again in a never ending circle of resignation hahaha holy poo poo, what a display of pisstaking
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jBrereton posted:Arlene's foster's whole schtick is "the ra tried to kill my dad and me" so I doubt they will ever work with Corbyn tbh Did they deserve it?
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