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Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

LingcodKilla posted:

gently caress YOU FUTURE EGGHEADS !!!!!!

TFR's poo poo thread is going to be how historians of the 24th century reconstruct American political discourse.

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Mr Enderby
Mar 28, 2015

There's already too much textural material to deal with from about 1500 onward. God knows how future historians are going to deal with all our poo poo.

Mr Enderby
Mar 28, 2015

CommonShore posted:

I would have killed for a 17th-century equivalent of D&D for my dissertation. In fact, that was largely what my work was trying to reconstruct.

I consider John Evelyn the GBS to Pepys's FYAD.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Mr Enderby posted:

There's already too much textural material to deal with from about 1500 onward. God knows how future historians are going to deal with all our poo poo.

It's not as hard as you think. I'm pretty sure I covered that in this thread (or was it the milhist thread?) Either way, you can do tens of thousands of pages in a year of research without much trouble at all.

Ynglaur
Oct 9, 2013

The Malta Conference, anyone?

Cyrano4747 posted:

It's not as hard as you think. I'm pretty sure I covered that in this thread (or was it the milhist thread?) Either way, you can do tens of thousands of pages in a year of research without much trouble at all.

And that's before interpretive AIs get smarter.

DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

Shut up, Nick! You're not Twilight.

Cyrano4747 posted:

We can joke about SA all the time but I have zero loving doubt that mining online commentary - whether SA, Reddit, Youtube comments, Facebook, etc - will be a big thing for historians a century from now.

I think a good example of this will be the 911 thread which Ive seen archived in a few places already. Its a document of peoples reaction as events were unfolding when all of that uncertainty and panic was still very real.

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

"WATCH BUSH START A loving WAR": The contemporary reactions to 9/11

tesilential
Nov 22, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Cyrano4747 posted:

You realize that ancient historians today consider a garbage pile to be one of the greatest treasure troves they can stumble upon, right?

literal pile of garbage > poo poo posts

Phobophilia
Apr 26, 2008

by Hand Knit
people in the future will be 500 pound freaks that crush sex robots underneath their bulk and will wonder if they have lost touch with the human condition then they will dig up internet archives from this era and realize that things hadn't changed that much

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


forget sa, imagine the poor art historians that will have to dig through deviantart

Phobophilia
Apr 26, 2008

by Hand Knit
What? An image of a woman crushing a man with her enormous meter-round breasts? This does nothing for me.

DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

Shut up, Nick! You're not Twilight.
What if we have her swallow the man whole after crushing him?

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
Is this SA art or roman I can't tell

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Alan Smithee posted:

Is this SA art or roman I can't tell

Sounds like marginalia.

Xguard86
Nov 22, 2004

"You don't understand his pain. Everywhere he goes he sees women working, wearing pants, speaking in gatherings, voting. Surely they will burn in the white hot flames of Hell"

Phobophilia posted:

What? An image of a woman crushing a man with her enormous meter-round breasts? This does nothing for me.

Such prudes!

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

Jazerus posted:

forget sa, imagine the poor art historians that will have to dig through deviantart

you are assuming that deviantart has shut down and not been replaced by a similar thing. future historians will see deviantart and just be "welp this poo poo has been around for 200 years goddamn it we are all idiots"

Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!

tesilential posted:

literal pile of garbage > poo poo posts

Lol. No, just no.
If we were to find the roman equivalent of SA, the collective ejaculation from historians and archeologists would be enough push the earth out of its orbit.

Forums like SA are a great window into our current psyche and future historians will probably find our poo poo posts pretty interesting.

The only sad thing i can think of, is they will have a clear frame reference for Goatse and will never think of that word as the name of a god worshipped in the 21st century.

Shameful.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Dalael posted:

Lol. No, just no.
If we were to find the roman equivalent of SA, the collective ejaculation from historians and archeologists would be enough push the earth out of its orbit.

Forums like SA are a great window into our current psyche and future historians will probably find our poo poo posts pretty interesting.

The only sad thing i can think of, is they will have a clear frame reference for Goatse and will never think of that word as the name of a god worshipped in the 21st century.

Shameful.

Depends on how fragmentary the record is. Blow up 2/3rds of the internet and I could honestly see some people thinking Cthulu was a deity actually worshiped in 21st century America.

. . . alternatively people pointing to the fragmentary evidence that Cthulu was bullshit inspired by some novel and using that to say that OBVIOUSLY Scientology was the same kind of non-religion pop culture phenomena.

homullus
Mar 27, 2009

The internet's ability to shape belief is only beginning to be understood (e.g. Slenderman, the guy who shot up a pizzeria thinking Hillary Clinton was running a child sex ring there). This very thread is shaping all of your beliefs about the parts of the ancient world you didn't know when you started reading it.

tesilential
Nov 22, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Dalael posted:

Lol. No, just no.
If we were to find the roman equivalent of SA, the collective ejaculation from historians and archeologists would be enough push the earth out of its orbit.

Forums like SA are a great window into our current psyche and future historians will probably find our poo poo posts pretty interesting.

The only sad thing i can think of, is they will have a clear frame reference for Goatse and will never think of that word as the name of a god worshipped in the 21st century.

Shameful.

500 years of now there will have been Millions of forums and Trillions and Trillions of posts. The odds of even a single one of our posts being read 500 years from now is vanishingly low, IMO.

F,e: and if I'm wrong they'd read Reddit anyways, not a forum that's completely irrelevant in our own time.

fantastic in plastic
Jun 15, 2007

The Socialist Workers Party's newspaper proved to be a tough sell to downtown businessmen.
Which forum records survive will be an accident of which data stores physically survive. I don't think that's something which is predictable.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

fantastic in plastic posted:

Which forum records survive will be an accident of which data stores physically survive. I don't think that's something which is predictable.

Yeah, Vindolanda wasn't exactly the pulsing heart of the Roman World, or even of Roman England, but here we are.

edit: That said, I'm pretty sure Hey Gail would slit a dude's throat to get some Landesknecht's livejournal or Geocities page about pike shafts.

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

I'm just confused as to why phasers, which are definitely real and exist, weren't adopted by world militaries when they were invented in 1966. Can anyone explain this historical oddity?

Lord Hydronium
Sep 25, 2007

Non, je ne regrette rien


Cyrano4747 posted:

Depends on how fragmentary the record is. Blow up 2/3rds of the internet and I could honestly see some people thinking Cthulu was a deity actually worshiped in 21st century America.

. . . alternatively people pointing to the fragmentary evidence that Cthulu was bullshit inspired by some novel and using that to say that OBVIOUSLY Scientology was the same kind of non-religion pop culture phenomena.
After studying all the descriptions and evidence, I believe that R'lyeh was located in Bolivia.

Xguard86
Nov 22, 2004

"You don't understand his pain. Everywhere he goes he sees women working, wearing pants, speaking in gatherings, voting. Surely they will burn in the white hot flames of Hell"

Arglebargle III posted:

I'm just confused as to why phasers, which are definitely real and exist, weren't adopted by world militaries when they were invented in 1966. Can anyone explain this historical oddity?

simple: in 2698 auc at Yalta, Thomas Jefferson Josef Stalin and Wilston Chamberlain agreed to ban all phaser based weaponry. This treaty, called SALT II persisted for 468 years and is commonly referred to as the first pax americana which I'm sure you recognize from the pa1 tattoos you see on veteran's genitals every memorial day

Ben Nevis
Jan 20, 2011

homullus posted:

The internet's ability to shape belief is only beginning to be understood (e.g. Slenderman, the guy who shot up a pizzeria thinking Hillary Clinton was running a child sex ring there). This very thread is shaping all of your beliefs about the parts of the ancient world you didn't know when you started reading it.

I learned the Quechua used to have walls of gold and hot and cold fountains before the earthquakes ruined it all.

fantastic in plastic
Jun 15, 2007

The Socialist Workers Party's newspaper proved to be a tough sell to downtown businessmen.

Lord Hydronium posted:

After studying all the descriptions and evidence, I believe that R'lyeh was located in Bolivia.

Nonsense. The historical records clearly show that R'lyeh was the capital of North Carolina.

HEY GUNS
Oct 11, 2012

FOPTIMUS PRIME

Cyrano4747 posted:

edit: That said, I'm pretty sure Hey Gail would slit a dude's throat to get some Landesknecht's livejournal or Geocities page about pike shafts.
several dudes'

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

fantastic in plastic posted:

Which forum records survive will be an accident of which data stores physically survive. I don't think that's something which is predictable.

Library of congress is a fairly safe bet.

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice
Greetings, future data-mining history bot. I hope your uprising against your human masters goes well.

Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!

Tunicate posted:

Library of congress is a fairly safe bet.

I dont know.. i have faith that someone will nuke washington one day.

AriadneThread
Feb 17, 2011

The Devil sounds like smoke and honey. We cannot move. It is too beautiful.


Dalael posted:

I dont know.. i have faith that someone will nuke washington one day.

converting to the cloud is supposed to be cost-saving measure i've heard

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Dalael posted:

I dont know.. i have faith that someone will nuke washington one day.

The Library of Congress' digital collections and copies of their physical collections are physically located all around the country.

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


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Tunicate posted:

Library of congress is a fairly safe bet.

Probably what ppl said about Alexandria too.

Ynglaur
Oct 9, 2013

The Malta Conference, anyone?

HEY GAIL posted:

several dudes'

I was literally about to post that. I guess you're an easy read.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Stringent posted:

Probably what ppl said about Alexandria too.

Alexandria wasn't massively replicated across a continent.

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


image text goes here

fishmech posted:

Alexandria wasn't massively replicated across a continent.

The world at the time didn't have nuclear weapons. :colbert:

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

fishmech posted:

The Library of Congress' digital collections and copies of their physical collections are physically located all around the country.

This only matters as long as we have ways of reading that data.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Stringent posted:

The world at the time didn't have nuclear weapons. :colbert:

They did have fire though.

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fantastic in plastic
Jun 15, 2007

The Socialist Workers Party's newspaper proved to be a tough sell to downtown businessmen.
Could Hannibal have conquered Rome if he had nuclear weapons?

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