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Shear Modulus posted:well the dems arent doing abortion rights a big favor by constantly adopting the right's framing that abortions are bad and should be "rare" and that women who get them should feel distraught Abortions rights are just gonna have to take a back seat then because, "There should be more abortions!" is a losing campaign slogan. Birth Control should be preventing nearly all unwanted pregnancies before abortion is necessary as birth control. People can have strong opinions on where human life begins or whatever but generally earlier in development is better if you have to end whatever type of life you are dealing with. I think that's where the vast majority of people who don't have a dumb religious opposition to birth control land.
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FuriousxGeorge posted:Abortions rights are just gonna have to take a back seat then because, "There should be more abortions!" is a losing campaign slogan. Birth Control should be preventing nearly all unwanted pregnancies before abortion is necessary as birth control. People can have strong opinions on where human life begins or whatever but generally earlier in development is better if you have to end whatever type of life you are dealing with. I think that's where the vast majority of people who don't have a dumb religious opposition to birth control land. If you're not willing to make a positive case for abortion then you can't claim to be a feminist, because the fundamental underlying issue is reproductive rights and family planning. Not whether or not a fetus is actually a baby or should have human rights, which is a bullshit framing cooked up by reactionaries to justify continued social leverage over women.
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Jun 22, 2017 07:21
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All the Bad Dems I see being shared on Facebook agree this was a great election and that Ossoff made a huge swing in a district that was unwinnable.
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Jun 22, 2017 07:22
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Jun 22, 2017 07:28
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lol i forgot about this proposal https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonnyc/status/877767402418835456
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Jun 22, 2017 07:30
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:If you're not willing to make a positive case for abortion then you can't claim to be a feminist, because the fundamental underlying issue is reproductive rights and family planning. Not whether or not a fetus is actually a baby or should have human rights, which is a bullshit framing cooked up by reactionaries to justify continued social leverage over women. yeah this hillary wins among loyal democrats but independents in open primaries hate her. lucky for hillary, the more electable candidate, the general election is also closed to non-democrats
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Jun 22, 2017 07:33
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:lol i forgot about this proposal Her plan for America was pretty much "write more apps"
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Jun 22, 2017 07:47
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steinrokkan posted:Her plan for America was pretty much "write more apps" its funny because silicon valley zillionaires still think this is the way forward
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Jun 22, 2017 07:48
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steinrokkan posted:Her plan for America was pretty much "write more apps" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei9iM_zzzQk
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Jun 22, 2017 07:53
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Shear Modulus posted:its funny because silicon valley zillionaires still think this is the way forward It is! Get ready to cuck for Zuck in 2020!
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Jun 22, 2017 07:53
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:lol i forgot about this proposal She just really wanted Pokemon Go 2 Polls.
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Jun 22, 2017 07:54
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when you dont talk to anyone besides ceos of fortune 500 companies your brain turns to mush
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Jun 22, 2017 08:02
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Shear Modulus posted:when you dont talk to anyone besides ceos of fortune 500 companies your brain turns to mush true, but your pockets become a mausoleum of dead presidents
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Jun 22, 2017 08:07
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the quintessential clueless tech utopian guy is that one dude who proposed we subsidize laptops for the homeless so they could learn to code
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Jun 22, 2017 08:09
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paranoid randroid posted:the quintessential clueless tech utopian guy is that one dude who proposed we subsidize laptops for the homeless so they could learn to code the tech sector is sick of paying H1B visas enough to live four to an apartment, they wanna get in on for profit prison labor prices but for that to happen we need poors and blacks that know ruby and javascrpit
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Jun 22, 2017 08:12
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:If you're not willing to make a positive case for abortion then you can't claim to be a feminist, because the fundamental underlying issue is reproductive rights and family planning. Not whether or not a fetus is actually a baby or should have human rights, which is a bullshit framing cooked up by reactionaries to justify continued social leverage over women. That's might be one reason so few people identify as feminist even though they say they believe in the equality of men and women. e: You could probably find plenty of alcoholic coders who will work for a discount if you let them drink on the job. Similar to hiring the homeless.
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Jun 22, 2017 08:15
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steinrokkan posted:Her plan for America was pretty much "write more apps" Her plan for the rust belt was retraining 50 y/o ex-mill workers to write said apps, lmao.
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Jun 22, 2017 08:20
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paranoid randroid posted:the quintessential clueless tech utopian guy is that one dude who proposed we subsidize laptops for the homeless so they could learn to code ZUCK FOR PREZ!!
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Jun 22, 2017 08:33
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Lindsey O. Graham posted:ZUCK FOR PREZ!! That's the spirit! Go "Full Cuck" for Mark Zuck!
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Jun 22, 2017 08:35
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FuriousxGeorge posted:That's might be one reason so few people identify as feminist even though they say they believe in the equality of men and women. all o' this is 100% true i cannot add or detract anything!
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Jun 22, 2017 08:36
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MaxxBot posted:That's the spirit! Go "Full Cuck" for Mark Zuck! if you actually thought i wasn't full cuck to begin with, just 
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FuriousxGeorge posted:That's might be one reason so few people identify as feminist even though they say they believe in the equality of men and women. If you don't think women should be able to control their reproduction, then you don't actually believe in sexual equality.
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Jun 22, 2017 09:21
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glad i could have the queen's speech mansplained to me by an absolute boy
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Jun 22, 2017 09:22
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:If you don't think women should be able to control their reproduction, then you don't actually believe in sexual equality. There is a difference between saying a woman shouldn't control their own reproduction and saying abortions should be rare. Like, I think euthanasia of pets should be rare too. Much more rare than it is, because the pet population is totally out of control and people are irresponsible owners. That doesn't mean it should be banned, because it's a necessary and humane procedure as well and individual animals don't have a right to life, they are property. Even groups like PETA perform euthanasia of animals regularly because it is a necessary procedure. I would just have to disagree if you try and tell me that you think it's bad to say, "There should be less euthanasia and we can get there by reducing the root causes that lead to it being necessary in the first place." It doesn't make any sense to say that unless you don't believe there is any value at all in the animal's life which makes you sound like a monster. This hard line makes some sense from a purely political point of view though. The right is trying to strip abortion rights inch by inch. So never give up an inch.
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FuriousxGeorge posted:This hard line makes some sense from a purely political point of view though. The right is trying to strip abortion rights inch by inch. So never give up an inch. That's the point, my dude. The right has made abortion so rare that it's practically impossible to get access in over half the states. The point of contention from the beginning was the notion that the Democratic party should be a big tent that also encompasses pro-lifers. But if you want to "work with" pro-lifers, that means you're also willing to compromise on abortion.
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Jun 22, 2017 09:45
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:That's the point, my dude. The right has made abortion so rare that it's practically impossible to get access in over half the states. if you want a 50 state campaign you have to deal with pro-lifers the 10 million dollar question is whether or not they can be whipped so i guess what we want is bitchmade pro-lifers in whatever districts require them
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Jun 22, 2017 09:50
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mormonpartyboat posted:glad i could have the queen's speech mansplained to me by an absolute boy
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Jun 22, 2017 09:53
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I just rewatched an Ossoff ad and it was nice to have this to get the taste out of my mouth.
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Jun 22, 2017 09:55
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paranoid randroid posted:if you want a 50 state campaign you have to deal with pro-lifers Pro-life Democrats ran in Oklahoma all the time, and they all ate poo poo.
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Jun 22, 2017 09:57
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Shear Modulus posted:yeah this I've talked about this before but I canvassed for Hillary and independents hated her even more than you're imagining.
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Jun 22, 2017 09:59
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Jeb! Repetition posted:I've talked about this before but I canvassed for Hillary and independents hated her even more than you're imagining. It's not like we've been hiding this fact.
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Jun 22, 2017 10:02
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Gamify 👏 Public 👏 Spending
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Jun 22, 2017 10:10
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Jun 22, 2017 10:12
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*marching through the streets throwing molotovs* CONSOLIDATE FEDERAL DATA CENTERS
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5.4 billion, boy that's a big number. Now I have to go write this big check to Lockheed Martin cuz the planes they're making us won't deliver oxygen to a pilot's cells.
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Jun 22, 2017 10:25
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Jun 22, 2017 10:29
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Pro-life Democrats ran in Oklahoma all the time, and they all ate poo poo. i am compelled to remind you that your point of view has zero federal power right now single issue voters get something from democrats that they care about more than abortion, yippee i aint holdin my breath
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