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sean10mm posted:You're not turning into a Bengal version of Parm, are you? its hosed up to nom some boys based on your team being filled with shite heads and not follow through with the votes afterward. This is all just A dream. im sorry b-boy (means baby boy, not the other thing) Cavauro fucked around with this message at 02:33 on Jun 22, 2017 |
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The posters responsible for nominating and seconding every person ever associated with the Bengals.
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 03:40 |
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King Hong Kong posted:The posters responsible for nominating and seconding every person ever associated with the Bengals. Seconded, though whoever nominated Pacman is ok.
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 05:10 |
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i didnt think they would get in. god drat it
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 05:39 |
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Probably won't happen but I think Clay Travis has an outside shot at this whole thing. The main problem is so much of his race baiting bullshit is about things other than football.
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 05:53 |
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King Hong Kong posted:The posters responsible for nominating and seconding every person ever associated with the Bengals. Cavauro and Ches Neckbeard iospace posted:Seconded, though whoever nominated Pacman is ok. Zurreco and... Cavauro Cavauro posted:i didnt think they would get in. god drat it All these other whiners had to do was second a bunch more guys than then did
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 07:18 |
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the bad spits were always good
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 09:37 |
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Pacman and Vontaze are legit candidates
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 16:08 |
Clay Tavis is a horrible human being with incredibly wrong and dangerous opinions. If he seriously thinks there is no systemic racism in America then he must live in a room with no windows or doors. Also lol at his hot take about Kaep flipping voters to Trump. What a loving dumbass
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 20:00 |
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Well this one is a blowout and we still have more loving bengals to get through so I'm calling it here. Clay Travis wins 30-3.
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 20:03 |
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Everyone who insisted Kaep insulted the troops vs. Shawn Williams Everyone who insisted Kaep insulted the troops Last season during the preseason Colin Kaepernick quietly began kneeling during the national anthem before games. A few people noticed and when asked, he presented his case: he was doing it in protest of racial injustice and police brutality, particularly towards black men and other people of color. Unfortunately for Kaepernick, he ran headfirst into a deeply, deeply ingrained conglomeration of American myths, passions, convictions, etc. that go well beyond the already deeply contentious issues of race and criminal justice in the US. We do not need to hash those all out here: reasonable people can disagree about whether his protest was "appropriate," had or has potential to be effective, can or cannot be separated from the man and his other opinions, and so on. But one particular aspect of the backlash that rapidly built against Kaep that I found especially douchebaggy was the conflation of a protest during the National Anthem, and some kind of connection to the US military. I think this article in the Atlantic from last year presents the problem reasonably well: https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2016/08/colin-kaepernick-nfl-patriotism/498014/ quote:America’s most popular sports league is also its most visibly patriotic, a trait discernible in everything from pregame fighter-jet flyovers to field-sized flags to coaches’ instructions about the anthem during behind-the-scenes shows. It doesn’t require an extreme amount of cynicism or research to note that this is as much about industry acumen as love of country—the league has a brand, and the stars and stripes are a part of it—but like all branding, it works best when it is assumed as a matter of course. With his means of protest, then, Kaepernick is not only using his platform as an athlete to raise awareness about ongoing tragedies. He’s also, whether by design or not, questioning the NFL’s insistent but narrow definition of patriotism, shining a harsh light on its red-white-and-blue wallpaper. Essentially, to the extent that Kaep's protest "insults the troops," that is only the case because the NFL specifically, and to a lesser degree the entire country generally, absolutely loving loves to drape any aspect relating to patriotism with military iconography. This is deeply, deeply ingrained: the actual words to the Star Spangled Banner were written by Francis Scott Key as a poem called Defence of Fort M'Henry about the US flag staying up during the night of a fearsome battle - the bombardment of an American fort by the British during the War of 1812. But that connection is not, today, inherent: we sing the national anthem in many contexts in which the military is uninvolved. There's something more going on here: the NFL and the Pentagon have a tight, and monetarily-based, partnership in which they engage in cross-promotion for branding purposes. Basically, the reason people who watch NFL football are thinking about the troops, is because the NFL and the US government have spend a fuckton of money making sure of it. Per that 2015 article: quote:As much as $6.8M has been spent by the Department of Defense on secret payments to pro sports teams in exchange for tributes to the military over the past four years. But Kaepernick himself made clear from the very outset that his protest was specifically about police getting off scott free for the racist oppression and murder of black people. quote:A couple days after sitting for the anthem, Kaepernick addressed reporters and said his actions aren’t intended to insult the military. “I have great respect for the men and women that have fought for this country,” he said. “And they fight for freedom, they fight for the people, they fight for liberty and justice, for everyone. That’s not happening.” And yet countless douchebags, including some of his own teammates, cannot take the man's word. quote:When asked about Kaepernick’s actions, his ex-teammate and now-Minnesota Viking Alex Boone, whose brother served as a Marine, spoke passionately. “That flag obviously gives him the right to do whatever he wants. I understand it. At the same time, you should have some loving respect for people who served, especially people that lost their life to protect our freedom.” Sure Boone, but Kaep explicitly and publicly expressed that respect. People were, and still are, wilfully ignoring it. Why? Because by insisting that the whole thing is about disrespecting the troops, they can ignore the actual issues being raised. We don't have to confront the fact of police violence against black men, and the legal and political systems that ignore, condone, or even promote it, if we can instead take the opportunity to be insulted on behalf of our troops, who we obviously must honor at any and every opportunity. If you think it's wrong to kneel instead of stand for the Anthem, OK - I strenuously disagree, but that's a point people can make. If you think there's no racism or the police are doing just fine or cops are being appropriately punished for blowing away unarmed black men on a routine basis, OK, you're a loving idiot, but fine. But insisting that someone's protest is exactly what they are clearly and unequivocally stating it isn't, is just douchebaggery. Especially when you use that as an excuse to avoid the real problems being raised. Shawn Williams Shawn Williams (born May 13, 1991) is an American football safety for the Cincinnati Bengals of the National Football League. He was drafted by the Bengals in the third round of the 2013 NFL Draft. He played college football at Georgia. I can't find an even vaguely douchebaggy image of this fairly unremarkable football man Cavauro posted:I'm nominating Shawn Williams, of the Cincinnati Bengals, for a hosed up hit that is to be named later but happened in 2016 OK Cavauro. If Williams was fined, then he was punished for these hits. I should have caught this earlier but I didn't. Fortunately, googling for "Shawn williams dirty player" came up with something else: http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/how-the-bengals-used-dirty-play-to-tie-the-redskins-and-stay-alive-in-2016-103016 quote:There were at least a dozen examples from Sunday (and probably more than a hundred this season), but the play pictured at the top of this post, where Shawn Williams almost Poltergeisted Jamison Crowder's head with a facemark at the goal line, went uncalled. This article argues that the Bengals' systematic dirty play erodes the officials' ability to call penalties for everything they do, which, OK, that argument belongs to the general Bengals entry. But to the extent Williams contributes to it, and doesn't get called, that qualifies him for DotY. Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 20:47 on Jun 22, 2017 |
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Another Bengals loss. Cavauro should be used to his team underperforming in knockout rounds though. People who insisted Kaep disrespected the troops Mostly white arrogant fucks who dont want their perfect vision of America to come down on them.
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Don't like voting for large disparate groups much but, gotta get the Bengals out so this thing can get to real matchups. People who insisted Kaep disrespected the troops.
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 20:54 |
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Shawn Williams -he's 50% to 60% as bad as mike mitchell, which still equates to a fairly bad boy -multiple people worked hard at exposing his underground deeds to the national tff audience and now it's finally possible to get justice
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 20:57 |
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Can we do all the people who said stupid things about Kaepernick and all the Bengals en bloc? If not, I guess the people who said stupid things about Kaepernick who are somehow distinct from the previous individuals who said the same things. King Hong Kong fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Jun 22, 2017 |
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After this we've just got Joe Mixon I guess. Oh and Marvin Lewis. The Kaep category is specifically the Are Troops crowd, a distinct subset of the antikaep.
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 21:14 |
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Kaep people.
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 21:16 |
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I hate voting for nebulous groups, but the Kaep people don't even care about the troops unless they're using them as a rhetorical cudgel. Worst of all, the Kaep people won.
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Kaep People You're welcome Cavauro.
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 23:16 |
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Cavauro. (Kaep people)
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# ? Jun 23, 2017 01:57 |
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People who insisted Kaep disrespected the troops. Once problems become un-ignorable and voices appeal to our consciences for change, some people attempt to drown that out by loudly proclaiming your support of something necessary and commendable (in this case, voluntary military service) solely as a means to create a platform with which to denigrate those who disagree with their worldview. This show is all just to avoid having to ask the themselves the question, "Is it possible that I am privileged enough to be unaware of a longstanding injustice in my beloved country?" gently caress those people.
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# ? Jun 23, 2017 02:48 |
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Kaep people. No explanation cause this will (probably) win.
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# ? Jun 23, 2017 18:51 |
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Protest vote for Shawn Williams because he's not a faceless amorphous group.
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# ? Jun 23, 2017 19:00 |
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Alright, let's get some Real American poo poo in here. I used to be one of Are Troops. The Army sent me to 3rd world shitholes to unfuck the planet's rear end in a top hat clusters for God and Country. I got ribbons and silver jump wings and all kinds of poo poo, and I'm here to tell you effete little buttermilk-making GBS threads special snowflake pisspants motherfucks that the correct answer to the question of "Who should win this round of douchebag voting?" is: People who insisted Kaep disrespected the troops. I don't like mass awards, but the fake-patriotic uproar over what Kaepernick did was just stupid bullshit all the way down. Plus, again, nobody cares about the Bengals.
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sean10mm posted:Plus, again, nobody cares about the Bengals. At least not until the next time Burfict concusses Antonio Brown. Also yeah, people who think Kaepernick disrespected the troops.
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# ? Jun 23, 2017 23:01 |
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OK calling it after 24 hours because gently caress it Everyone who insisted Kaep insulted the troops wins, in real life and in this contest. 20-6.
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Marvin Lewis vs. Bob Craft Marvin Lewis Marvin Ronald Lewis (born September 23, 1958) is an American football coach who is the head coach of the Cincinnati Bengals of the National Football League. Lewis has held the position since January 14, 2003 and is currently the second-longest tenured head coach in the NFL behind Bill Belichick of the New England Patriots. He is also the longest tenured coach in Bengals history. Previously, he was the defensive coordinator of the Baltimore Ravens from 1996 to 2001. Marvin Lewis loves Burfict Benne posted:Marvin Lewis for claiming that touchdown dances are "not a good example for young people" http://www.espn.com/blog/cincinnati-bengals/post/_/id/26900/marvin-lewis-on-new-celebration-rule-not-a-good-example-for-young-people quote:“I’m not for that at all,” Lewis, who is on the NFL Competition Committee, said of the change. “We had a good standard, and the whole standard has always been, you want to teach people how to play the game the correct way and go about it the correct way, and that’s not a very good example for young people.” Marvin Lewis is not the GM of the team, so it is not really his responsibility to select players... but I think it's fair to say that if he wanted rid of Burfict, Pacman, etc. it would happen. It is definitely his job to keep control of his players on the field, though, so their on-field misbehavior absolutely reflects upon him as a coach. And it's deeply hypocritical of him to make lofty declarations about players being role models while his team continues to employ two of the dirtiest and most-fined players in the league. I wish the ESPN interviewer, Katherine Terrell, had asked him if he thought Burfict was a good example for young people. Bob Kraft Robert Kenneth Kraft (born June 5, 1941) is an American businessman. He is the chairman and chief executive officer of the Kraft Group, a diversified holding company with assets in paper and packaging, sports and entertainment, real estate development and a private equity portfolio. His sports holdings include the National Football League's New England Patriots, Major League Soccer's New England Revolution, and the stadium in which both teams play, Gillette Stadium. Bob Kraft loves Donald Trump and wants to kiss him on the mouth. Vincent Van Goatse posted:Belichick and Bob Kraft: being generally evil and also Trump. https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2017/05/03/robert-kraft-patriots-deflategate-trump/101237572/ quote:New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft said “envy and jealousy” played a role in the NFL’s Deflategate sanctions over a violation he described as “nonsense and foolishness" at a business leader summit on Tuesday night. quote:“Well, I don’t hold grudges, but I also don’t forget anything,” Kraft said with a smirk. “Envy and jealousy are incurable diseases. I’m going into my 24th season as an owner. I’m passionate about owning a football team in my hometown. quote:Kaft praised his team’s ability to go 3-1 without Brady at the start of the 2016 regular season. He called the Patriots’ historic comeback victory against the Atlanta Falcons at Super Bowl LI a “great lesson for the millennials on how hard work, perseverance and never giving up” can pay off. Also, this: http://deadspin.com/this-is-the-story-about-robert-krafts-casino-holdings-t-1794594130 quote:It goes without saying (hey there, Las Vegas Raiders!) that the NFL’s gambling policy is a hypocritical mess. But now that I no longer work for Rupert Murdoch, I can plainly state that every word out of Roger Goodell’s mouth about legalized sports betting for the past 20 months has been nothing but lip service. The author, formerly a New York Post reporter, goes on to explain how this story was quashed within minutes back in 2015, most likely because Kraft or Goodell called up their buddy Rupert Murdoch and had it silenced. That act is outside our statute of limitations for this douechebag contest, but Kraft's ownership and apparently rules-violating presence on the Apollo's board remains. SO, who is the bigger douchebag?
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# ? Jun 23, 2017 23:32 |
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I'm not a hater on the Patriots. But that doesn't stop me from thinking Bobby Kraft needs to see this through.
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# ? Jun 23, 2017 23:39 |
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Bob Kraft Seriously though can we filter out the rest of the Bengal entries for this round if they keep on ending up in these lopsided match ups?
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# ? Jun 23, 2017 23:41 |
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Bob Kraft
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Hunt11 posted:Seriously though can we filter out the rest of the Bengal entries for this round if they keep on ending up in these lopsided match ups? be sure to do this and dont even bother with the last guy. no one would vote for him; it's a waste of everyone's time
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# ? Jun 23, 2017 23:48 |
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Marvis Lewis is just a crotchedy old man who should have been fired by now. Bob Kraft is a poo poo heel owner who enables Belichick and Brady, believes in the Patriot Way, and even weaponized his wife's death to bolster the brand. He also promoted the idea that Deflategate was a conspiracy against Brady and, when he saw the writing on the wall, tried to throw himself onto the sword gently caress him.
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Hunt11 posted:Bob Kraft Seriously though can we filter out the rest of the Bengal entries for this round if they keep on ending up in these lopsided match ups? Kraft was seeded 25th while Lewis was seeded 8th, so I don't feel like I can anticipate who should or shouldn't be kept. In any case there's only one Bengal left, and it's Joe Mixon who was seeded fifth. So basically no, sorry. e. Just to be clear, Marvin Lewis was nominated by Benne and seconded by Anals of History and Cavauro. With two seconds, he's seeded in a group of 8 nominees that included Mixon, while the other Bengals that have been complained about were ones with 1 second, so they were all seeded lower. Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Jun 24, 2017 |
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Bob Kraft.
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# ? Jun 24, 2017 00:10 |
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gently caress to Bob Kraft and all Patriots and all NFL team owners.
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Bob Kraft
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# ? Jun 24, 2017 01:29 |
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Some Pats fan during the Super Bowl, to me posted:Robert Kraft is my second-favorite person, after Tom Brady.
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# ? Jun 24, 2017 01:30 |
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Bob Kraft because he is a Trump-supporting slurring drunk retard
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Bob Kraft Macaroni and White American Cheese
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I wonder if Cavauro's long con was making us so sick of dumbass Bengals entrants that no one would vote for a legit one? Marvin Lewis is absolutely worthy of a vote, he doesn't believe in concussions, he hates celebrations, he has terrible opinions on a hell of a lot of things. Well if it was, it worked. Bob Kraft. ~~Andey
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