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After years or even decades of austerity and stagnating incomes there's clearly an appetite for more left-wing policy, but I wonder if part of the appeal of leftist policies has less to do with the policies themselves and more to do with the public's growing fatigue toward the styles and mannerism of centrist technocrats.
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left wing policies have always polled well
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UrbicaMortis posted:He'd take one look around and blow his brains out all over again. its not that nixon wasnt bad, just all other politicians got even worse
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Kurtofan posted:
Should've casted Daniel Day-Lewis though
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Jose posted:left wing policies have always polled well In the abstract they do, which is part of why centrists will opportunistically poach the occasional lefty policy idea for their campaign stump speeches. I think part of the enthusiasm for some of these ripped-from-the-1970s types like Corbyn and Sanders is that their leftist policies seem to be matters of genuine belief that emerge from a consistent and coherent worldview rather than some stale focus grouped bullshit cooked up by lanyard wearing campaign consultants.
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Kurtofan posted:
Adams, Gerry Adams.
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:Google image search tells me that's Pierce Brosnan as not-Gerry Adams. he just retired
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Baron Corbyn posted:he just retired so he's a available
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:afaik Yglesias's critique of Ossof is that he wasn't willing to outline any policy plans, which meant people would have no idea what they're even voting for. Libs are terrified of having to explain what they want. This is unfair. Ossoff had a clear, compelling, and inspiring vision.
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Vox Nihili posted:speaking of which~ dont eat the rich theyre too salty
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Vox Nihili posted:speaking of which~ loving poors reeeeeeee
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:afaik Yglesias's critique of Ossof is that he wasn't willing to outline any policy plans, which meant people would have no idea what they're even voting for. Libs are terrified of having to explain what they want. they have no idea what they want to do because their entire ideology is based around electoral politics and as such is completely soulless and empty.
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Helsing posted:In the abstract they do, which is part of why centrists will opportunistically poach the occasional lefty policy idea for their campaign stump speeches. I think part of the enthusiasm for some of these ripped-from-the-1970s types like Corbyn and Sanders is that their leftist policies seem to be matters of genuine belief that emerge from a consistent and coherent worldview rather than some stale focus grouped bullshit cooked up by lanyard wearing campaign consultants. I ought to write up something about what the Canadian Liberal Party nationally and provincially (in Ontario) is doing and has done historically to marginalize left-wing parties - and counteract their own growing unpopularity - by adopting popular left-wing policies at the right moment, but this is very true
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still better than burning to death i guess
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Darkman Fanpage posted:from the osha thread great, so not only did they get roast alive, they got smoked the gently caress out by the building itself gently caress that oval office who cared about property values
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Lastgirl posted:great, so not only did they get roast alive, they got smoked the gently caress out by the building itself i wonder what its like having so much money you care about it more than people? it seems pretty lovely
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mrbradlymrmartin posted:i wonder what its like having so much money you care about it more than people? it seems pretty lovely they weren't even particularly rich london house prices are just that broken
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muh property value
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my mam sold a flat she lived in for £10k to move up north that would now be worth £2m lol
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Nonsense posted:He quit acting, he was on broadway almost exclusively for a while. Really? I never thought of him as a song and dance man.
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Zeroisanumber posted:Really? I never thought of him as a song and dance man. Or at least just stage plays, dunno what soured him from film
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The replies to Matt Yglesias on twitter were absolutely insane. There's this bizarre notion cultivated by the centrists for years now, that outlining your political intentions equates to a promise of action in government, and that not fulfilling those intentions due to an obstructionist opposition would be breaking that promise. Therefore, you should just aim low and only campaign on what you can actually expect to get done in legislature, which is gonna be some idiotic half-measure like the ACA or raising the retirement age for social security. Centrist libs just don't get politics at all. Yep this is exactly it, you see this all the time.
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Nonsense posted:Or at least just stage plays, dunno what soured him from film I don't know that he necessarily needed to sour on it, just enjoy stage acting (or not acting at all) more- he's pretty clearly been in a position where he didn't need to work for money ever again if he didn't feel like it for quite a while now (assuming non-Nick-Cage-esque spending habits).
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The replies to Matt Yglesias on twitter were absolutely insane. There's this bizarre notion cultivated by the centrists for years now, that outlining your political intentions equates to a promise of action in government, and that not fulfilling those intentions due to an obstructionist opposition would be breaking that promise. Therefore, you should just aim low and only campaign on what you can actually expect to get done in legislature, which is gonna be some idiotic half-measure like the ACA or raising the retirement age for social security. Centrist libs just don't get politics at all. I'm not sure if we're allowed to talk about this, but that was a major theme in the old salt Dem primary thread too.
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Kurtofan posted:
Such a dapper terrorist.
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That's clearly Ray Romano
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Jose posted:still better than burning to death i guess https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owI7DOeO_yg
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robert webb had a meltdown over corbyn becoming party leader and quit the party
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I remember Webb being one of the precious artistes who had a meltdown about Corbyn saying that everyone has creative potential and should be enabled to pursue it
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Snuff Box was better anyway.
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Jose posted:robert webb had a meltdown over corbyn becoming party leader and quit the party mitchell always seemed like the good one but what do i know
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