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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

forkboy84 posted:

Yup. According to this Guardian article which quotes Doreen Lawrence's book

Though I did get one thing wrong, Neville Lawrence was a builder, not a painter.

The problem is that Paul Dacre leads a massively sheltered life, gets a chauffeur driven car from his front door to the Mail office where he apparently puts in extremely long days, then heads straight home. The only plebs he has contact with are presumably the cleaners of his building and the sort of tradesman who might be doing up his home. He's completely tucked away from the real world, free to spout his xenophobic fear mongering, homophobic bile without the risk of many real people who could challenge his world view. I mean this is a oval office who fell out with Tony Blair because of Blair's progressive views on gay rights & Cherie's public breastfeeding. No one person has done so much harm to this country since Thatcher was punted out of office by her own party.

I dunno. David Cameron kicking off Brexit is a pretty drat strong contender.

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Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Guavanaut posted:

If you think about it though, Thatcher's ancestors in the medieval period would have probably been responsible for covering houses in flammable insulation.

:monocle:

Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

Nick Davies two books about the evils of modern journalism Flat Earth News (which goes in depth about the Mail and the Stephen Lawrence case) and Hack Attack (which focuses on the Murdoch papers and phone hacking) are well worth a read. Flat earth news predicts a bunch of pessimistic trends for journalism that he hopes to be proven wrong about, while Hack Attacks message is things are worse than I had thought they would be.

vodkat
Jun 30, 2012



cannot legally be sold as vodka

Skinty McEdger posted:

Nick Davies two books about the evils of modern journalism Flat Earth News (which goes in depth about the Mail and the Stephen Lawrence case) and Hack Attack (which focuses on the Murdoch papers and phone hacking) are well worth a read. Flat earth news predicts a bunch of pessimistic trends for journalism that he hopes to be proven wrong about, while Hack Attacks message is things are worse than I had thought they would be.

Seconding these recommendations, both good books from a certified good egg jorno.

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

Guavanaut posted:

It's all about the good futures now that we're in the bad future of the 80s.
If only. We somehow got the massive inequality, overmighty corporations and constant future shock without any of the cool poo poo like Ono-Sendai decks and soycaf

Gorn Myson
Aug 8, 2007






Skinty McEdger posted:

Nick Davies two books about the evils of modern journalism Flat Earth News (which goes in depth about the Mail and the Stephen Lawrence case) and Hack Attack (which focuses on the Murdoch papers and phone hacking) are well worth a read. Flat earth news predicts a bunch of pessimistic trends for journalism that he hopes to be proven wrong about, while Hack Attacks message is things are worse than I had thought they would be.
I'm pretty sure that Davies was the person that first mentioned that the Daily Mail had a history of sending journalists out to locations for a particular news story, only for them to be called back before reaching said location because the people involved are black.

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

LeoMarr posted:

if corbyn becomes PM, what would HE do about the flammable biilding wraps? i mean хрущёвка were fireproof were they? maybe bulldoze the housing blocks and replace them wth a low cost solution...
He might use his working majority to pass the fire regulations he proposed last year, and which were voted down by the Conservatives.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Captain Fargle posted:

I dunno. David Cameron kicking off Brexit is a pretty drat strong contender.

This is like saying the punch won the boxing match, not the boxer. A big part of Cameron's complacency in running the Remain campaign came from thinking he had the right wing media on his side when he didn't. Brexit literally wouldn't be happening without Dacre's support.

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

Rich people will be the first against the cheaply cladded wall

Not a good plan unless you want them to get away with it. We'll shout "FIRE!" and everyone will evacuate.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Zephro posted:

If only. We somehow got the massive inequality, overmighty corporations and constant future shock without any of the cool poo poo like Ono-Sendai decks

You mean the Oculus Rift?

We did get all the drone poo poo from Shadowrun; they were less good of a predictor re: orcs, dragons etc, though.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
David Cyberon hosed a dead orc.

Maw
Feb 18, 2013

Mere minutes after discovering the new technology, it was used to send me a crude ASCII dong.


Guavanaut posted:

David Cyberon hosed a dead orc.

Extremely hosed up if true

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



That poor Orc :(

TomViolence
Feb 19, 2013

PLEASE ASK ABOUT MY 80,000 WORD WALLACE AND GROMIT SLASH FICTION. PLEASE.

Metahuman rights are human rights.

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
No ichor for oil!

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
So what's the difference between the leader of a council and its CEO?

hookerbot 5000
Dec 21, 2009

Darth Walrus posted:

So what's the difference between the leader of a council and its CEO?

I think the leader of the council is an elected councillor who is then elected by all the other councillors to be leader. The CEO is employed by the council to run it

vodkat
Jun 30, 2012



cannot legally be sold as vodka

Darth Walrus posted:

So what's the difference between the leader of a council and its CEO?

The leader of the council is the 'PM' of the locally elected councillors, the Chief Executive is the head civil servant of the council that is actually responsible for doing and running everything.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

vodkat posted:

The leader of the council is the 'PM' of the locally elected councillors, the Chief Executive is the head civil servant of the council that is actually responsible for doing and running everything.

Ah, that makes sense. So the council makes the policy, and the CEO makes it happen.

vodkat
Jun 30, 2012



cannot legally be sold as vodka

Darth Walrus posted:

Ah, that makes sense. So the council makes the policy, and the CEO makes it happen.

Basically, also worth remembering that the elected part of local councils are very limited in what they can actually do that political power so in reality the Chief Exec will be making most of the important, if often boringly bureaucratic, calls.

Hidingo Kojimba
Mar 29, 2010

nopantsjack posted:

Why would you rent a luxury flat anyway? You're pissing above the average salary worth of money into a black hole every year.

Could be as simple as wanting to live in inner London and being not quite fabulously wealthy enough to get a mortgage. Alternatively I suppose if you want to live somewhere short-term before moving somewhere else then it's much easier to get out of a short lease than sell a heavily mortgaged freehold. (Though I can't imagine it's that hard to find a buyer in London so i dunno.)

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.
If anyone remembers the hilarity of pooles council closing all of the toilets it took a funnier turn today.

Because all the toilets are closed near to the queue for the sandbanks to Studland ferry people have taken to pissing against the wall of the now closed toilet blocks (And lobbing pissfilled bottles at the councilors and MP's houses). The council, after receiving notice of legal action due to the health hazard this is causing,have now scheduled their street cleanings team to go to these toilets once a day to clean them.

At a greater cost than it took to maintain the toilets previously.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

serious gaylord posted:

If anyone remembers the hilarity of pooles council closing all of the toilets it took a funnier turn today.

Because all the toilets are closed near to the queue for the sandbanks to Studland ferry people have taken to pissing against the wall of the now closed toilet blocks (And lobbing pissfilled bottles at the councilors and MP's houses). The council, after receiving notice of legal action due to the health hazard this is causing,have now scheduled their street cleanings team to go to these toilets once a day to clean them.

At a greater cost than it took to maintain the toilets previously.

pissing on things for the cause is change we can all believe in

hyper from Pixie Sticks
Sep 28, 2004

nopantsjack posted:

I have a super wealthy uncle who is having to flee the country for 6 years because he hasn't paid any income tax basically in his whole life.
Might wanna tell him that if he's committed tax fraud then HMRC can go back 20 years.

Or tell him to just pay his drat taxes, but I'm sure you've done that already.

Kegluneq
Feb 18, 2011

Mr President, the physical reality of Prime Minister Corbyn is beyond your range of apprehension. If you'll just put on these PINKOVISION glasses...

serious gaylord posted:

If anyone remembers the hilarity of pooles council closing all of the toilets it took a funnier turn today.

Because all the toilets are closed near to the queue for the sandbanks to Studland ferry people have taken to pissing against the wall of the now closed toilet blocks (And lobbing pissfilled bottles at the councilors and MP's houses). The council, after receiving notice of legal action due to the health hazard this is causing,have now scheduled their street cleanings team to go to these toilets once a day to clean them.

At a greater cost than it took to maintain the toilets previously.

Sandbanks is a uniquely terrible place and everyone living near the ferry on the Sandbanks side definitely deserves to have their property pissed on. I hope this doesn't extend to the nudist beach on the other side though, there is a sea to piss in after all.

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

ThomasPaine posted:

Depends on whether they're on insulin tbh. Very unlikely though perhaps possible occasionally on oral medication like metformin. Doubtful Abbot is on insulin if she's only been diagnosed a few months. If she was hypoglycemia then sure thst would account for it.

High blood glucose on the other hand can cause tiredness and thirst and blurred vision but it would have to be pretty loving persistent to get to that level. And even then it shouldn't have any cognitive impact short term.

My issue isn't with Abbot because I agree that it's being blown out of proportion and we all have off days, I just get wound up when people use diabetes as an excuse because it brings both the insufferable 'LOL FAT MAYBE LAY OFF THE CAKE' and equally annoying 'oh the poor sick dear how vulnerable' types out. I get frustrated because the media always wilfully misunderstands the nature of the condition and people using it to excuse themselves directly contributes to oversimplified and often plain wrong attitudes to it.

I'm probably just bring precious but obviously it's a topic I have a personal investment in.

Going back a few pages, but sulfonylurea drugs are widely used in type 2 diabetes and they commonly cause hypoglycaemia. In fact they're a second line drug after Metformin, so It's totally plausible for someone with type 2 to suffer hypoglycaemic episodes without being on insulin.

Obviously I have no idea if Abbott is taking them or if her blood sugar contributed to her problems, but your idea that people with type 2 don't get hypos is very wrong.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Hidingo Kojimba posted:

Could be as simple as wanting to live in inner London and being not quite fabulously wealthy enough to get a mortgage. Alternatively I suppose if you want to live somewhere short-term before moving somewhere else then it's much easier to get out of a short lease than sell a heavily mortgaged freehold. (Though I can't imagine it's that hard to find a buyer in London so i dunno.)

It's still a lot of extra hassle, and if you're living in central London you're clearly someone who prioritises facility over frugality.

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends
You know, I really don't know how far The Heil can sink to be honest

https://twitter.com/thebobpalmer/status/877803436825116674

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:

You know, I really don't know how far The Heil can sink to be honest

https://twitter.com/thebobpalmer/status/877803436825116674

I like that they've got to point out what the particular spelling errors are in case their readers are too thick to work it out themselves.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.

Julio Cruz posted:

I like that they've got to point out what the particular spelling errors are in case their readers are too thick to work it out themselves.

https://twitter.com/DMReporter/status/877897128105979904

I also assume everyones already seen this?

https://twitter.com/C4Ciaran/status/877951036589170688

No Dignity
Oct 15, 2007

ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:

You know, I really don't know how far The Heil can sink to be honest

https://twitter.com/thebobpalmer/status/877803436825116674

Thankfully the Daily Mail has nothing to do with Mail Online, because their headline writers would be appalled by the comments section

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Looks like the Tories broke election law again. And again Channel 4 are the ones to call them out on it.

EDIT: ^^dammit

Captain Gordon
Jul 22, 2004

:10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux:

Jedit posted:

Oh, we can do better than that. The cunts complaining about Grenfell survivors being rehoused in their blocks are quite possibly the same cunts who demanded the external refurbishment of the tower that led to the fire.

Simple solution - all the people complaining about Grenfell rehousing should be put in a old tower and set on fire. Survivors get a free luxury flat somewhere nice for free.

Televise this poo poo and I'd watch it.

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded
http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/shelagh-fogarty/if-grenfell-residents-move-into-my-flats-ill-move/

How Shelagh resisted the urge to say "...gently caress off then?" I've not idea.

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

Must be awkward when you called an election to duck responsibility from when you broke election rules and end up breaking election rules again.

winegums
Dec 21, 2012




I'm sure there'll be serious repercussions for the Tories this time.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

atelier morgan
Mar 11, 2003

super-scientific, ultra-gay

Lipstick Apathy

winegums posted:

I'm sure there'll be serious repercussions for the Tories this time.

pretty sure you can just call them 'polite election suggestions' now

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Having worked in this industry and done similar campaigns in other elections I've got some context for this article:

- The use of "Axe Research" as a fake market research company looks like it was the call centre's idea and the Tories wouldn't know anything about it. When you do outsourcing like this it opens up the opportunity for a lot of shady poo poo that the client companies are never aware about.

- Saying that they call "on behalf" of the Tories is the legal requirement.

- Any TPS records that was called would definitely have given consent to be called at some point time either directly to the Tories or through a marketing call. Call centres have been really focused on data consent for the last couple of years. Sometimes consent is gained through underhanded means and sometimes people are too polite to say no to being contacted when asked. When it's the latter there's not much you can do apart from get out of the call.

- The use of leading survey questions is totally bullshit, definitely canvassing and the Tories aren't the only party who do it.

Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

Right wing social media and fake news sites are pushing this idea that some of the flats were being sublet (without any specific evidence to back it up) and thus as a result some of the people rehoused in the new development will be the subletters as opposed to people who were in the building at the time, thus meaning none of the families should be rehoused less one subletter benefits from this.

It's the worst loving argument. I hate most that I know of it because my ma is sincerely pushing it.

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ultrabindu
Jan 28, 2009

Is this from the Jackie Chan film where Brosnon plays Gerry Adams?

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