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What is making people think that Kennedys shindig has anything to do with a retirement announcement? Is this what justices do when they want to announce that sort of thing or is it just "Kennedy does a thing that might mean a thing" and we're worrying about that?
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ThisIsWhyTrumpWon posted:Literally anyone with a spine. I could do a loving better job. Nah, odds are you couldn't manage a little league team, much less a bunch of fickle, pissbaby Democrats ready to chuck you under the bus at the first mention of your name on the opposition's lips.
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Jun 22, 2017 21:04
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Lote posted:This bill is going to murder the R House and may even make Cruz's seat vulnerable in 2018. Prove it. I don't believe that anything matters to GOP congresspeople getting re-elected other than pandering to the right wing and scapegoating. Their base will eat this up thinking it's good for them and be too stupid to realize who really poisoned them.
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Jun 22, 2017 21:04
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Reik posted:It is my professional opinion as a credentialed Actuary that this healthcare bill is terrible. Every GOP Member of the Senate: "Well, actuary,"
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Jun 22, 2017 21:05
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Boon posted:Nah, odds are you couldn't manage a little league team, much less a bunch of fickle, pissbaby Democrats ready to chuck you under the bus at the first mention of your name on the opposition's lips. If only Pelosi had said "the Democratic Party is the Party of anti-capitalists" Ossoff would have won!
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Jun 22, 2017 21:06
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I really want Obama to take his pleas of cooperation and bipartisanship and shove it up his own rear end. He still doesn't get it. Its DEAD. These people are the enemy. There's no working with them, reasoning with them, hoping they see the light and do the right thing for their fellow American. gently caress, son. Not realizing this got us here.
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Jun 22, 2017 21:06
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ThisIsWhyTrumpWon posted:Literally anyone with a spine. I could do a loving better job. such nuance such skill and thought
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Jun 22, 2017 21:06
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skylined! posted:do you have a sustainable solution that includes who would take their place and how or do you just enjoy jerking off with sandpaper a lot or what https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Chcc_Ci36Vw Pollyanna posted:Prove it. I don't believe that anything matters to GOP congresspeople getting re-elected other than pandering to the right wing and scapegoating. Their base will eat this up thinking it's good for them and be too stupid to realize who really poisoned them. This person gets it!
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Jun 22, 2017 21:07
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Glazier posted:
Well luckily we get to decide the nominee so can you please gently caress off with this "Dems are the real evil" bullshit?
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Jun 22, 2017 21:07
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Pollyanna posted:Prove it. I don't believe that anything matters to GOP congresspeople getting re-elected other than pandering to the right wing and scapegoating. Their base will eat this up thinking it's good for them and be too stupid to realize who really poisoned them. Who will people blame when their insurance premiums go up? It's going to be Congress and Trump. They can try to blame Obama but that is going to be less effective the longer that Trumpcare is in place.
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Jun 22, 2017 21:08
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Lote posted:Who will people blame when their insurance premiums go up? It's going to be Congress and Trump. They can try to blame Obama but that is going to be less effective the longer that Trumpcare is in place. Why not blame poor people for using too much healthcare?
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Jun 22, 2017 21:09
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:What is making people think that Kennedys shindig has anything to do with a retirement announcement? Is this what justices do when they want to announce that sort of thing or is it just "Kennedy does a thing that might mean a thing" and we're worrying about that? Kennedy changed the date of his regular get togethers he has with former clerks. At first people thought he wasn't going to have it at all, then he said he changed it to be on some anniversary date so people think he might announce he is retiring. It's all speculation he also delayed in hiring clerks I believe. people thought he wasn't going to hire any clerks, which would have been a big indication he was planning on retiring
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Jun 22, 2017 21:09
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Demon Of The Fall posted:I really want Obama to take his pleas of cooperation and bipartisanship and shove it up his own rear end. He still doesn't get it. Its DEAD. These people are the enemy. There's no working with them, reasoning with them, hoping they see the light and do the right thing for their fellow American. gently caress, son. Not realizing this got us here. That's not going to happen. That's not Obama's world view.
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Jun 22, 2017 21:09
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Hellblazer187 posted:Well luckily we get to decide the nominee so can you please gently caress off with this "Dems are the real evil" bullshit? They aren't evil but their incompetence directly leads to evil happening so...
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Jun 22, 2017 21:10
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Is there a medical term for having total absence of imagination?
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Jun 22, 2017 21:10
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ThisIsWhyTrumpWon posted:That's not going to happen. I know it's not. I wish it was true, but drat. Definition of insanity and all that.
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Jun 22, 2017 21:10
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EwokEntourage posted:Kennedy changed the date of his regular get togethers he has with former clerks. At first people thought he wasn't going to have it at all, then he said he changed it to be on some anniversary date so people think he might announce he is retiring. It's all speculation Yes but are get togethers like these a common occurrence for justices or is Kennedy doing something special?
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Jun 22, 2017 21:11
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Jun 22, 2017 21:11
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ThisIsWhyTrumpWon posted:You know he's next in line if Pelosi gets ousted right? Oh no I'm not opening that box of feces. His statement was callow and I hated it
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Jun 22, 2017 21:12
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Lote posted:Who will people blame when their insurance premiums go up? It's going to be Congress and Trump. They can try to blame Obama but that is going to be less effective the longer that Trumpcare is in place. Republicans in Louisiana were polled in 2009 and asked who they blame for the Katrina response in 2005. A plurality said Obama.
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Jun 22, 2017 21:12
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Demon Of The Fall posted:I know it's not. I wish it was true, but drat. Definition of insanity and all that. What do you want him to do, run a millitary coup? The only way this bill stops is if Republican senators hear and decide to listen to a bunch of their own constiutents shouting at them to stop. Obama rallying partisan opposition only entrenches partisan battle lines - and a partisan battle is literally, mathematically impossible for congressional dems to win as things stand.
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Jun 22, 2017 21:13
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Demon Of The Fall posted:I know it's not. I wish it was true, but drat. Definition of insanity and all that. Im pretty sure a former President actively demonizing ideological opponents is a surefire way to violence, blame, counterblame, and more violence.
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Jun 22, 2017 21:14
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Lote posted:This bill is going to murder the R House and may even make Cruz's seat vulnerable in 2018. It does nothing to stabilize the market. It does nothing to help with premiums next year which will go up 20-40%. When the premium savings finally kick in, that's when the subsidies go away and Medicaid gets gutted. The market will dip for one day, then all medical stocks will surge on the thought of all the extra savings and money to be made on increased premiums and loving over the poor. Premiums will still go up, and no voter will give a poo poo until their family starts dying. and even then the majority will believe that its due to it not being deregulated enough. This is a downward spiral folks, only way to climb out is a wall built out of cancer corpses of kids.
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Jun 22, 2017 21:15
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EwokEntourage posted:Kennedy changed the date of his regular get togethers he has with former clerks. At first people thought he wasn't going to have it at all, then he said he changed it to be on some anniversary date so people think he might announce he is retiring. It's all speculation If Kennedy announced he was planning to retire on February 1st, 2020, on a Monday morning I bet the GOP would already be moving to pre-approve his replacement by Wednesday night. Like, literally, I think they would try to confirm the next guy before Kennedy is even off the bench.
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happyhippy posted:The market will dip for one day, then all medical stocks will surge on the thought of all the extra savings and money to be made on increased premiums and loving over the poor. What? Med devices companies predicate their entire business on reimbursement. In a big way, so do pharma. Then there's the hospital networks themselves, all the derivative jobs.
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Lote posted:This bill is going to murder the R House and may even make Cruz's seat vulnerable in 2018. It does nothing to stabilize the market. It does nothing to help with premiums next year which will go up 20-40%. When the premium savings finally kick in, that's when the subsidies go away and Medicaid gets gutted. I have no idea why you are so sure about that. Republican voters seem to care just as much, if not more, about doing things that make liberals sad than about keeping their health insurance.
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Jun 22, 2017 21:17
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Unzip and Attack posted:Republicans in Louisiana were polled in 2009 and asked who they blame for the Katrina response in 2005. A plurality said Obama. I didn't believe it so I looked it up and http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/poll-louisiana-gopers-unsure-if-katrina-response-was-obama-s-fault quote:Twenty-eight percent said they think former President George W. Bush, who was in office at the time, was more responsible for the poor federal response while 29 percent said Obama, who was still a freshman U.S. Senator when the storm battered the Gulf Coast in 2005, was more responsible. Nearly half of Louisiana Republicans — 44 percent — said they aren’t sure who to blame. 29% thought the blame rested on Obama, over 28% who thought it rested on Bush. 1% more people thought Obama, then senator, held the blame over the sitting president.
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Jun 22, 2017 21:18
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Yes but are get togethers like these a common occurrence for justices or is Kennedy doing something special? I don't know about the other justices, this was something that Kennedy had been doing every so many years for quite a while. I was wrong tho, he had it a year earlier instead of a year later, and did some other things different. its above the law, so take with a grain of salt, but it runs thru the rumors http://abovethelaw.com/2016/11/anatomy-of-a-rumor-on-justice-kennedys-retirement-next-year/ Cabbit posted:If Kennedy announced he was planning to retire on February 1st, 2020, on a Monday morning I bet the GOP would already be moving to pre-approve his replacement by Wednesday night. Like, literally, I think they would try to confirm the next guy before Kennedy is even off the bench.
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Spiritus Nox posted:What do you want him to do, run a millitary coup? Ok but hear me out...
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Jun 22, 2017 21:19
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gently caress these people, I am so glad I left the Democratic party.
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Jun 22, 2017 21:20
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Boris Galerkin posted:I didn't believe it so I looked it up and 25% of people believed Nixon did no wrong the day he resigned. Why not instead try to recalibrate your expectations instead of constantly being flabbergasted when it turns out people aren't rational
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Jun 22, 2017 21:21
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Glazier posted:gently caress these people, I am so glad I left the Democratic party. None of those talking points are wrong. The AHCA is a bigger deal than trying to unseat Pelosi right now.
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Jun 22, 2017 21:21
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So the Republicans are (successfully) making the conversation in elections about Pelosi, and her response is to go along with it? That seems a bad idea, wouldn't it be better to, you know, not play their game?
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Boris Galerkin posted:
And you can bet a good chunk of that 44% are the type to latch on to even the smallest kernel of truth tucked into a giant lie in order to back conservative ideals. To top it off, we're much more polarized now than when that survey was taken. EDIT: I mean look at what's happening re: the Senate Healthcare Bill. The RW propaganda machine is so strong that one of the main headlines today is about Nancy Pelosi. Nancy loving Pelosi when the Senate Bill has been shown to be perhaps the most ghoulish legislation proposed since Reconstruction.
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What I don't understand is how do they think this will work for them long term ? Like, if poo poo gets really bad, what's to stop poor desperate former military for not just targeting the senators who vote yes on this bill? Them and their families? People like Mitch are painting a huge target on their backs. I am in no way advocating violence. But I'm a writer, and it's really not hard to see how stupid this is. Yes, the guy last week was unhinged and thank god he was stopped. But what if it's a former marine who's daughters dead because he can't afford cancer treatment? Long term this poo poo does not go well for them.
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Boris Galerkin posted:I didn't believe it so I looked it up and This is still stupid as hell but you have to keep in mind that even by 2009 people all over LA were still suffering from the immediate effects of Katrina. To many of them having received so little help disillusioned them about whoever was in charge at that moment which was now Obama. They looked at how it had been 4 years and they were still struggling and were now blaming Obama for not finally stepping in and helping them. It's not rational but there is some reasoning behind it. And by the way, a ton of LA is still dealing with Katrina to this day.
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Jun 22, 2017 21:22
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Glazier posted:gently caress these people, I am so glad I left the Democratic party. Can you leave this thread, too?
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Jun 22, 2017 21:22
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Thaddius the Large posted:So the Republicans are (successfully) making the conversation in elections about Pelosi, and her response is to go along with it? That seems a bad idea, wouldn't it be better to, you know, not play their game? How do you propose she does that when idiots in her own party listen to the GOP talking points about her.
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Ol Standard Retard posted:what the gently caress does this even mean, you craven sack of poo poo. it means they want to do things that focus on how horrid the bill is rather than on the democrats opposing it it may not be as good political strategy for 2018 but its better strategy for killing the bill itself
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LionArcher posted:What I don't understand is how do they think this will work for them long term ? Like, if poo poo gets really bad, what's to stop poor desperate former military for not just targeting the senators who vote yes on this bill? Them and their families? People like Mitch are painting a huge target on their backs. They're not having public town halls anymore, they're asking for more armed guards. They know the risk but they also know the police state is mighty fine.
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