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wyoming posted:Diana is literally a god, I don't think it's a big concern.
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spacetoaster posted:Actually ran into someone today who was extremely upset that WW had men in it for a different reason that to be killed by WW. She was particularly infuriated that WW wasn't gay and that a romance was forced onto her character in the movie. Sounds like she'd like anime.
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spacetoaster posted:Actually ran into someone today who was extremely upset that WW had men in it for a different reason that to be killed by WW. She was particularly infuriated that WW wasn't gay and that a romance was forced onto her character in the movie. Kate Beaton straw feminist?
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MariusLecter posted:Kate Beaton straw feminist? Hisssss!
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MariusLecter posted:straw feminist? Nope. It happened.
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spacetoaster posted:Nope. It happened. That's hilarious.
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MariusLecter posted:That's hilarious. It's a roller derby team so there are a few "angry about comic book movies" women there.
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spacetoaster posted:Actually ran into someone today who was extremely upset that WW had men in it for a different reason that to be killed by WW. She was particularly infuriated that WW wasn't gay and that a romance was forced onto her character in the movie. What kinda guys she like
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spacetoaster posted:she basically just wanted a movie where a bunch of super masculine women killed every man they came across. hell, same
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Yeah the movie we got seems good (haven't seen it yet) but don't act like that wouldn't have also been awesome.
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Ferrinus posted:What kinda guys she like dead ones, obviously
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Neo Rasa posted:Yeah the movie we got seems good (haven't seen it yet) but don't act like that wouldn't have also been awesome. Amazons just invade the world on a crusade of killing men lead by a demigoddess and Ares is like "Oh cool you lot will definitely be onboard wi-" they staple him to a big rock with swords and drop it into the deepest part of the sea. 
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I was watching BvS: UE some more and I noticed during the Doomsday fight scene there's a part where Diana gets punched and she goes sliding along the ground and loses her shield and sword. She picks herself up and before she grabs her equipment she looks at Doomsday and has a smirking smile on her face. Almost like "Finally!" Was this something new for the Ultimate Edition or was it in the theatrical cut? A I thought it was an interesting was of enforcing the notion of her being trained as a warrior her entire life. Also, when she says the bit about "I've killed things from other worlds before" is she talking about Ares? I mean she seems to have completely disappeared after WW1 (Bruce Wayne's note to her asks "Where have you been?") so it doesn't seem like she was doing any kind of even limited intervention. I can sort of see how Aquaman, The Flash, and Cyborg were discovered by Lex since them using heir powers were all captured on camera but is there any explanation as to how he found out about Diana? The picture is the proof but without that how would he know? I'm thinking maybe it was passed down through a family of one of the squad members or villagers along with the story of her actions but her saying it was stolen seems to suggest that she had it in her possession.
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A WWI Wonder Woman is fine but my wish is WW 2 is a Diana of War romp through Greek Mythology where she faces monsters of legend and slays them. I'm also fairly certain at some point, 2023, we will get DC vs Marvel with a 60 year old RDJ staring down Ben Affleck over drunkenly trying to seduce Diana while Black Panther shakes his head. Gatts fucked around with this message at 07:46 on Jun 23, 2017 |
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Mr. Apollo posted:I was watching BvS: UE some more and I noticed during the Doomsday fight scene there's a part where Diana gets punched and she goes sliding along the ground and loses her shield and sword. She picks herself up and before she grabs her equipment she looks at Doomsday and has a smirking smile on her face. Almost like "Finally!" Was this something new for the Ultimate Edition or was it in the theatrical cut? A I thought it was an interesting was of enforcing the notion of her being trained as a warrior her entire life. I'm 95% sure that grin/smirk was in theatrical. In the Justice League teaser/trailers there's a line from Diana where she's like telling Bruce "they're already here" so maybe there's meant to be some intervening adventure where she leaves the world of mortals behind for a bit, but does end up stopping some sort of incursion against Themyscira. Not sure that enough of this had been plotted out when they wrote BvS. It'd be a neat bit of retcon if so. Yeah, Lex's entire set of blackmail against her seemed to be the 191x photograph and ... surveillance tapes of her doing normal-ish things?
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So erm, what did they do with Doctor Poison after Wonder Woman spared her?
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Sent her off the sound stage to prepare for the sequel.
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Comstar posted:Sent her off the sound stage to prepare for the sequel. Dr Poison being in Justice League seems an odd choice.
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VagueRant posted:So erm, what did they do with Doctor Poison after Wonder Woman spared her? ungulateman posted:i almost want a sequel set in ww2 where doctor poison is working in the camps and wonder woman turns up and is like "oh for gently caress's sake" and that's what really made her lose hope in humanity
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VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:I'm 95% sure that grin/smirk was in theatrical. I wonder if JL will give any additional insight into Luthor's motivations and how it started. There was a scene in BvS: UE where he's on the Kryptonian ship and he's communicating with one of the aliens. Maybe they guided him in the direction of the metahumans. Otherwise, like you said, Diana's file is basically just creepy stalker material and then the WW1 photo.
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Gatts posted:A WWI Wonder Woman is fine but my wish is WW 2 is a Diana of War romp through Greek Mythology where she faces monsters of legend and slays them. Never going to happen.  Obviously, any crossovers that are going to happen are going to involve properties that are owned by the same studio. For example, Wonder Woman/Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them.
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Lex knew of the existance of the metahumans long before he got access to the ship. If he knew about them before Supermans reveal is unknown, but remember that between mos and bvs it was 18 months that passed. Plenty of time to start searching for other metas. So presumably metropolis event happened, lex freaks out and wonders if there are more metas, and starts ferreting them out. Wonder woman was discovered because lexs face recognition software recognised her from the photograph and from surveillance cameras. This was all before he spoke to the aliens. Presumably Supermans existance drove Lex so mad he figuratively communed with the devil to kill God (that scene is called communion iirc) and had nothing to do with other metas Edit: while Lex's motivations aren't explicitly spelled out, the movie does offer enough information for the viewer to piece it all together, the biggest being in the chairty event where he starts ranting McCloud fucked around with this message at 12:39 on Jun 23, 2017 |
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Mr. Apollo posted:I was watching BvS: UE some more and I noticed during the Doomsday fight scene there's a part where Diana gets punched and she goes sliding along the ground and loses her shield and sword. She picks herself up and before she grabs her equipment she looks at Doomsday and has a smirking smile on her face. Almost like "Finally!" Was this something new for the Ultimate Edition or was it in the theatrical cut? A I thought it was an interesting was of enforcing the notion of her being trained as a warrior her entire life. That smirking smile in the context of that fight was basically what sold me on the character being in movies. It's just perfect.
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Ah that makes sense and it explains why there was such an obvious time stamp on the footage of Diana using the ATM. It was to show that it took place between MoS and BvS. So I guess the implication is that his facial recognition software was scanning everything it could come across and the WW1 photo of her was digitally archived somewhere and was included in the scan and it then matched that up with modern day video surveillance footage.
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https://twitter.com/TheAVClub/status/878200483760009216 Interesting read.
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I don't understand the complaint about Diana thinking of Steve in the final battle and not Antiope. Isn't the whole point that Diana thinks of Steve not just because he's her love interest but because he is an example of the good in humans and therefore she chooses to "believe in love" and not help Ares destroy humanity? I don't see how recalling Antiope during that scene would have the same impact. If anything it would reinforce the negative side of humanity since they're the ones whole killed her.
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I hope Wonder Woman 2 starts in the modern day with Diana at a Thai Food restaurant by the former Berlin Wall, wearing a Nirvana shirt and disco shoes, watching I Love Lucy on her phone, and when she goes to get her check, she accidentally pulls out ticket stubs to opening night screenings to Star Wars, Rocky, and Wrath of Khan, where the Troubleman soundtrack is playing over the speakers. I don't know how to include the Moon Landing there. But Zeus probably created the moon or something anyway.
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MariusLecter posted:https://twitter.com/TheAVClub/status/878200483760009216 I hadn't realized that Joss was actually kind of a poo poo. I was a huge Buffy fan, and liked his take on the Avengers, but if his script for WW is to be believed, yuck.
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I've read the script that's been posted online and it's pretty bad. It ends up being a movie about Steve Trevor and Diana tags along.
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Mr. Apollo posted:I don't understand the complaint about Diana thinking of Steve in the final battle and not Antiope. Isn't the whole point that Diana thinks of Steve not just because he's her love interest but because he is an example of the good in humans and therefore she chooses to "believe in love" and not help Ares destroy humanity? I don't see how recalling Antiope during that scene would have the same impact. If anything it would reinforce the negative side of humanity since they're the ones whole killed her. I would have preferred her WWI friends being that example instead of it hammering home STEVE as the primary driver.
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I went and saw this a second time, and upon further review I took it to mean she meant 'love' in a general sense - for Steve, Chief and the other guys - everyone. I can see why it seemed a bit ham-fisted that her ~~true love~~ Steve Trevor made her believe, but I don't think that was the intent. Now having said that, you can see why in BvS she was hesitant to get involved. So I wonder what the sequel will be about - what's she been up to for the last hundred years if BvS is what encouraged her to get involved in a more aggressive manner?
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What was it exactly that encouraged her to get involved in BvS? The she packing up getting ready to leave her hotel and the Doomsday fight was going on. She got the email from Bruce with the photo, clicked the links about the other meta humans, and then she's in her battle armour saving Batman. Did the photo along with Batman and Superman rekindle her belief in mankind being capable of goodness and self sacrifice (even though Superman isn't human)? I guess she's been carrying her armour, sword, and shield around with her everywhere for the last 100 years just in case. biracial bear for uncut posted:That smirking smile in the context of that fight was basically what sold me on the character being in movies. It's just perfect. Mr. Apollo fucked around with this message at 15:48 on Jun 23, 2017 |
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I want to say Lex corp digging into her past and also Lex corp atrocities like the mercs testing bullets on civilians as seen in BvS. E: Superman isnt human but he was raised human. Close enough. 
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After Wonder Woman, who's the next biggest female character DC/WB can build a film around?
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hiddenriverninja posted:After Wonder Woman, who's the next biggest female character DC/WB can build a film around? Catwoman. Maybe Black Canary?
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They've already made 1 Harley Quinn movie with another planned, and Batgirl is in the pipe
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hiddenriverninja posted:After Wonder Woman, who's the next biggest female character DC/WB can build a film around? Supergirl?
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Batwoman is there too. But that's a longshot since I don't think Hollywood can deal with a Jewish lesbian woman in the leading role in a summer blockbuster film. I mean, it took forever to get Wonder Woman so maybe we'll see some LGBTQ representation in about 10-20 years.
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spacetoaster posted:Actually ran into someone today who was extremely upset that WW had men in it for a different reason that to be killed by WW. She was particularly infuriated that WW wasn't gay and that a romance was forced onto her character in the movie. I saw someone online get upset that Wonder Woman was so excited about seeing a baby because that signified that Hollywood isn't ready for a badass give-no-fucks warrior woman and they had to tone her down by making her overly maternal blah blah blah.
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Kelly posted:I hadn't realized that Joss was actually kind of a poo poo. I was a huge Buffy fan, and liked his take on the Avengers, but if his script for WW is to be believed, yuck. It doesn't mean he's a poo poo, it just means he didn't have a good grasp on the character. Besides, it's a first draft. First drafts are always just throwing whatever at the wall and planning on refining it later.
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