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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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JFairfax posted:hahaha loving idiot edit: London's 608 bus route starts at Gallows Corner. Useful to remember in case a wall is not available
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simplefish posted:What sort of person typically reads the Telegraph and why does Google keep shoving links to them in my face, despite me not living in the UK? It's read by people who think the country is run by another country.
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Jun 23, 2017 12:00
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quote:“But if we cannot ensure access to the seasonal workers needed to produce soft fruit in Britain, that will be an unintended consequence of Brexit Gosh imagine if someone had warned us that leaving the EU would make it harder for people from the EU to work here. What a strange and unforseeable quirk of this decision that literally nobody with a brain could have possibly seen coming, truly I have been misled!
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Jun 23, 2017 12:01
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I mean christ on a bike what does "sovereignty" even mean. We always had sovereignty as evidenced by the fact that we're leaving the loving European Union. What didn't you like? That we have to meet EU product standards? Well guess the gently caress what we still have to do that if we want to keep selling goods to our biggest loving trading partner. Jesus people are such loving idiots and I can't believe this whole country is going to get sent even further down the shitter because people are too loving dumb to understand the most basic loving facts about how the loving world loving works.
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Jun 23, 2017 12:05
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https://twitter.com/elenistefanou/status/878002583872208896
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Jun 23, 2017 12:08
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what's stopping the government from keeping a seasonal worker scheme going anyway?
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Zephro posted:I mean christ on a bike what does "sovereignty" even mean. We always had sovereignty as evidenced by the fact that we're leaving the loving European Union. What didn't you like? That we have to meet EU product standards? Well guess the gently caress what we still have to do that if we want to keep selling goods to our biggest loving trading partner. Jesus people are such loving idiots and I can't believe this whole country is going to get sent even further down the shitter because people are too loving dumb to understand the most basic loving facts about how the loving world loving works. James O'Brien covered that perfectly by asking someone "what has the EU stopped us from doing" and they literally couldn't answer the question, just repeat Daily Mail talking points until he laughed them off air.
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Jun 23, 2017 12:11
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Saint Isaias Boner posted:what's stopping the government from keeping a seasonal worker scheme going anyway? Racism.
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Saint Isaias Boner posted:what's stopping the government from keeping a seasonal worker scheme going anyway? 2) Forrins, innit? Theresa May don't like forrins. This is a local country, for local people
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Jun 23, 2017 12:11
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Antti posted:I recall reading reports from multiple sources that the Queen actually was in favour of Brexit. Given that she's an 91 year old monarchist You don't say  'One thinks that one should be abolished'
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Jun 23, 2017 12:12
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Brenda has always been a little more attached to the Commonwealth.
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Jun 23, 2017 12:13
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Zephro posted:1) It would take a lot of work and the civil service is presently completely overwhelmed with other Brexit stuff lol and the government no longer has the kind of majority that would be needed to allow farmers to form press gangs so i guess they're SOL
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Jun 23, 2017 12:13
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Remember when Major did his offer to resign/confidence vote during Glasto? Jarvis Cocker did a good interview about headlining (filling in for the Stone Roses iirc) and it all seeming great until he woke up in the morning and realised that the bastards would just vote for him anyway.
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Jun 23, 2017 12:14
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i detest youth, exuberance, and vitality
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Cerebral Bore posted:It's read by people who think the country is run by another country.
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communism bitch posted:i detest youth, exuberance, and vitality
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Jun 23, 2017 12:17
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Cerebral Bore posted:It's read by people who think the country is run by another country. But who reads The Sun?
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Jun 23, 2017 12:18
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lol the reviews are already coming in thick and fast https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hotpoint-FF175BP-Frost-Fridge-Freezer/dp/B002ALNG9O Not sure it's particularly fair mind.
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Jun 23, 2017 12:19
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communism bitch posted:I also hate fun.
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Jun 23, 2017 12:19
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:But who reads The Sun? idiots
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Jun 23, 2017 12:19
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Saint Isaias Boner posted:what's stopping the government from keeping a seasonal worker scheme going anyway? Serious answer - David Davis has already said that it's probably going to happen. We're going to throw ourselves out of the customs union and single market, and we're not even going to give up the four freedoms that we need to stay in.
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Jun 23, 2017 12:19
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:But who reads The Sun? People who are fond of big tits.
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Jun 23, 2017 12:20
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Rarity posted:In the latest "I'm an idiot that doesn't understand the ramifications of my decisions" news: Here is a question for the thread (because I genuinely don't know), but is the only reason he is panicking because he hires cheap migrants who'll do terrible work for terrible pay and without them he'd have to hire people at proper wages which would eat into his profits? I hate that the west exploits people desperate for a good standard of living and is this an example of the exploiters no longer being allowed to?
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Jun 23, 2017 12:22
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Cerebral Bore posted:People who are fond of big tits. i don't read the sun
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Jun 23, 2017 12:22
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Cerebral Bore posted:People who are fond of big tits. yeah but you can get that in any broadsheet. hell, the guardian runs them in the op eds all the time
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Jun 23, 2017 12:23
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Didn't the Sun drop page 3 again after finding it had no positive impact on sales to return it?
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Jun 23, 2017 12:25
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VideoGames posted:Here is a question for the thread (because I genuinely don't know), but is the only reason he is panicking because he hires cheap migrants who'll do terrible work for terrible pay and without them he'd have to hire people at proper wages which would eat into his profits? it's probably because british people dont actually want to do hard work for low pay. it's a real issue
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Jun 23, 2017 12:25
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The Sun page 3 girls to be replaced with pictures of Jeremy Corbyn.
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Jun 23, 2017 12:27
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:The Sun page 3 girls to be replaced with pictures of Jeremy Corbyn. Scandalous to corrupt our children like that imo
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Jun 23, 2017 12:29
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JFairfax posted:it's probably because british people dont actually want to do hard work for low pay. So if the pay was right and livable, then the British people would be more likely to apply for it? So these employers would have to start paying a decent wage for once and forgo a few profits? This seems like a win if that is the case. Liveable wage and a good pay baseline for all jobs should be something we have. So I guess I am saying yes! To a higher minimum wage.
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Jun 23, 2017 12:30
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:The Sun page 3 girls to be replaced with pictures of Jeremy Corbyn. More like Phwoar-byn!
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Jun 23, 2017 12:31
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JFairfax posted:it's probably because british people dont actually want to do hard work for low pay.
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Jun 23, 2017 12:32
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VideoGames posted:So if the pay was right and livable, then the British people would be more likely to apply for it? So these employers would have to start paying a decent wage for once and forgo a few profits? This seems like a win if that is the case. Liveable wage and a good pay baseline for all jobs should be something we have. So I guess I am saying yes! To a higher minimum wage. I agree, but the problem is the price of food would go up and the public wont like that. but yeah, if they were paying 10 quid an hour plus for fruit picking then people might do it. also with that size operation I assume that guy is paying minimum wage. I think part of the problem is that british people simply do not want to do hard physical, repetitive jobs like fruit and veg picking.
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Jun 23, 2017 12:33
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Tesseraction posted:Didn't the Sun drop page 3 again after finding it had no positive impact on sales to return it? They got back the topless lasses but now they all hold their arms over their nips cause they're all shy like
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Jun 23, 2017 12:35
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VideoGames posted:Here is a question for the thread (because I genuinely don't know), but is the only reason he is panicking because he hires cheap migrants who'll do terrible work for terrible pay and without them he'd have to hire people at proper wages which would eat into his profits? It's the paradox of the situation - the hard work doesn't justify only paying minimum wage so people in the UK who have access to less lovely jobs for the same pay or better just don't take them up. People in the post-Soviet bloc have even shittier pay and shittier workers' rights so our lovely treatment of them is still preferable. Yanis Varoufakis has spoken on the subject of 'free movement of people' being only seen in its positives (which there are plenty of), and ignores that a lot of the people who move in search of better paying jobs actually hate having to do so, and would rather be closer to their friends and family, but the finances of western Europe have effectively caused an economic drain on eastern Europe, and therefore sees brain drain and labour drain, heightening the problem. Part of his proposed EU reforms would be to address the issue of rebalancing the EU economy towards pushing development back into the eastern side. Regardless of how Brexit works out for our isle of thumbs, it could put the EU back into a position of being able to move on the issue.
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Jun 23, 2017 12:35
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VideoGames posted:So if the pay was right and livable, then the British people would be more likely to apply for it? gently caress that guy.
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Jun 23, 2017 12:36
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Tesseraction posted:It's the paradox of the situation - the hard work doesn't justify only paying minimum wage so people in the UK who have access to less lovely jobs for the same pay or better just don't take them up. People in the post-Soviet bloc have even shittier pay and shittier workers' rights so our lovely treatment of them is still preferable. interestingly though for places like poland the drain was temporary and to some extent beneficial, a lot of polish migrants went back, sent money back and improved their lot. compared that to Northern Ireland where the smart people all gently caress off after getting a good degree from queens or going to study on the mainland
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Jun 23, 2017 12:37
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Which, by the way, is not to say the EU isn't already trying to do it - it is, but it's the same incompetent bumblefucks who are bollocksing up the rest of the Eurozone so don't expect much to get done.
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Jun 23, 2017 12:37
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the crash of the pound is also gonna make it more difficult to attract foreign workers as they're basically offering 80% or whatever of what they were paying last year and there's no guarantee it won't fall further if eg we send a bunch of loving morons to negotiate brexit and they gently caress us even more than they already hosed us fortunately there's no danger of that
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JFairfax posted:interestingly though for places like poland the drain was temporary and to some extent beneficial, a lot of polish migrants went back, sent money back and improved their lot. To some extent, yeah, but Poland's proximity to Germany aided that. Also helped by CD Projekt and GoodOldGames being there. But never forget the issues they have developing Eastern Poland.
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