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HEY GAIL posted:ideally, pikemen wear helmets, breastplates, backplates, and depending on the period and how much they want to carry, tassets. (although rabhadh has seen reports of the guys throwing their armor away or selling it as soon as the authorities aren't looking) I want to say pike stopped wearing armour in the UK at least over the course of the Civil War, though? Except helmets maybe.
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I already have trins two history books, would glad to add another book (or e-book) to my goon history collection.
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Benagain posted:Here's a helmet related question, I'm assuming that straps to keep the helmet off your head and absorb more of the blow came in around WW1 but do we have any evidence of their use before then? Do you mean the straps in the helmet specifically or helmet padding in general? Because using some kind of padding in helmets has been in practice basically forever. The Greeks and Romans would wear leather caps or thick headbands under their helmets, for example.
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Bourricot posted:I'll do my best based on what I can remember from high school Thanks! Your high school history teacher should be proud.  Did you mean 'Legitimists' in the bolded part? dublish posted:And to tie this further into military history, the Comte de Paris and his brother the Duke of Chartres were in 1861 placed at the service of the United States government by their uncle, the Prince of Joinville, who hoped to prove their (and his own) republican credentials. Both were commissioned captains and found positions on the staff of George McClellan. How well did they do? Hogge Wild fucked around with this message at 14:24 on Jun 23, 2017 |
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Dreylad posted:Haha fair enough, I don't keep a close eye on this thread so I didn't know if this was derivative or not. We've got most of his letters to and from his father spanning several decades as well as his logbook. Like a lot of veterans he didn't talk a lot about the war. Cool stuff! I also like how you can see the convergence pattern. And drat, attacking a flak ship with a plane takes guts. What kind of weapons did Mosquitos use in anti shipping operations? Hogge Wild fucked around with this message at 14:24 on Jun 23, 2017 |
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FastestGunAlive posted:At this point, this thread should just run your cyoa directly. Cut out the middle man. We'd need some sliders to adjust just how black and gay the audience wants it's Hitler
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Splode posted:Also, is trin ok? I haven't seen him post since he vanished from his forum game. I assume he's just busy, but you never know. Trin is extremely OK due to living the glorious People's Republic of Islington North under the benevolent dictatorship of the Absolute Boy (he posts in UKMT sometimes)
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Hogge Wild posted:Cool stuff! I also like how you can see the convergence pattern. And drat, attacking a flak ship with a plane takes guts. What kind of weapons did Mosquitos use in anti shipping operations? Usually standard 20mm cannons and some .303 machine guns, iirc. (Wikipedia states 4 of each) Really, depends on what variant you've got, as you've also got rockets, bombs, and maybe the modified large-caliber cannon attached. Jobbo_Fett fucked around with this message at 14:38 on Jun 23, 2017 |
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HEY GAIL posted:ideally, pikemen wear helmets, breastplates, backplates, and depending on the period and how much they want to carry, tassets. (although rabhadh has seen reports of the guys throwing their armor away or selling it as soon as the authorities aren't looking) Really interesting stuff! What about arquebusiers? Were their guns short enough to allow cuirasses? And would the Japanese armors be flexible enough to allow using muskets? Splode posted:I'd buy that immediately yeah
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Benagain posted:Here's a helmet related question, I'm assuming that straps to keep the helmet off your head and absorb more of the blow came in around WW1 but do we have any evidence of their use before then? What I've read from re-enactor sites, all helmets required straps to stay on head during fighting.
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Hogge Wild posted:Thanks! Your high school history teacher should be proud.
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I only post when I have something useful to say and I'm currently trying to figure out if there's anything useful to say about Third Ypres (or, really, the vast majority of 1917) that isn't UGH SERIOUSLY AGAIN?????
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Trin Tragula posted:I only post when I have something useful to say and I'm currently trying to figure out if there's anything useful to say about Third Ypres (or, really, the vast majority of 1917) that isn't UGH SERIOUSLY AGAIN????? We have short-term memory problems, please remind us at every instance.
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There's got to be something happening in places which arn't western europe right? Or are they too sensible to keep banging their heads on a brick wall like the British
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Trin Tragula posted:I only post when I have something useful to say and I'm currently trying to figure out if there's anything useful to say about Third Ypres (or, really, the vast majority of 1917) that isn't UGH SERIOUSLY AGAIN????? Zeppelin resupply missions to Africa The start and end of strategic bombing mission against Britain by airplanes The comedy of the "silent raid" Zeppelin raid You know me, fairly narrow focus More antics from General (?) von Lettow-Vorbeck
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Trin Tragula posted:I only post when I have something useful to say and I'm currently trying to figure out if there's anything useful to say about Third Ypres (or, really, the vast majority of 1917) that isn't UGH SERIOUSLY AGAIN????? 
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Nebakenezzer posted:Zeppelin resupply missions to Africa
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Nebakenezzer posted:Louis Barthas poo poo talking everyone higher than him on the totem pole If Trin doesn't plan on continuing his saga, I do own his diary in the original French and am willing to keep posting excerpts.
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Hogge Wild posted:How well did they do? As aides, they had minimal opportunities to do anything of importance. Paris at least is a very useful primary source for McClellan's time commanding the Army of the Potomac. Both brothers resigned in July 1862 as the Peninsula Campaign fell apart.
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Do modern day bonapartists still believe conspiracy theories about Napoleon IV's death by assegai? 👍 if so
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Cyrano4747 posted:Ok I did dome light digging. Disclaimer this is midnight internet poo poo from an iPad. I might have very well missed something but I'm not too terribly worried So ... would anyone say there is a consensus within the academic community on the question (of Napoleon's motives)? (Kudos on BattleMoose for being convinced by an argument - not a common thing!)
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Dreylad posted:Haha fair enough, I don't keep a close eye on this thread so I didn't know if this was derivative or not. We've got most of his letters to and from his father spanning several decades as well as his logbook. Like a lot of veterans he didn't talk a lot about the war. 'Come in, Dreylad's Grandpa. You've been doing some great work on supply runs and meteorological flights, so we're giving you a Mosquito so you can start loving a bunch of German botes' poo poo up.' '  'I mean, holy poo poo.
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Some pilots were stuck with the more boring flights and wanted to actually "do something". Its not all that crazy to see a transport plane pilot transfer over to combat flights.
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feedmegin posted:I want to say pike stopped wearing armour in the UK at least over the course of the Civil War, though? Except helmets maybe. Obviously they wouldn't need armor because they just pushed at each other right, no stabbing involved no siree.
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Yvonmukluk posted:That's one hell of a career trajectory. Great uncle! But you'd be surprised what you might have to engage during a meterological survey! From one of his stories: quote:While returning from a MET (meteorological) flight high up in the North sea he spotted an enemy U-boat. He radioed his home base in Wick, Scotland and asked if the Allies had a submarine in the area. After an hour of anticipatory circling his plane just over the horizon out of sight of the submarine he got a reply “negative, attack and sink”. The plane was a small weather plane, a Hudson twin engine, equipped with wing mounted machine guns, which were too light to attack a U-boat but he thought he might be able to damage it enough to make it impossible to submerge. He dived his plane and approached the submarine with thumbs taught on the gun triggers. As he approached the “submarine “ it sprayed a tall spume of water into the air. His "U-boat" turned out to be a blue whale upon closer inspection. And there were a few times during his training where he nearly got into some serious trouble: From his letters: quote:At tea time there was a spot of trouble in the camp. We were in a queue when some RE’s(Royal Engineers) pushed in front. I said to my pal ‘look at these bastards pushing in’. A Lance Corporal of the RE’s was there and kicked up a row and eventually got a RAF Sergeant to put me on a charge. I’m under open arrest and have to report to the guard room every hour which is a bore. Sometime I suppose I go before the C.O. A good start to my air force career, what! I suppose that if I ever had any hope of a commission eventually it will be pretty well washed out. Fortunately quote:I have just been to supper, and had it with the abovementioned Lance Corporal!! All very cheery and agreeable and the charge washed out. Much relief visible on the faces of my pals (one of them, when he heard of the trouble couldn’t eat his tea, the prisoner, however did full justice to his) Still, I’m glad not to start with a black mark. Dreylad fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Jun 23, 2017 |
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That's the most British thing I've read all day.
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nothing to seehere posted:There's got to be something happening in places which arn't western europe right? Or are they too sensible to keep banging their heads on a brick wall like the British edit: until someone gets malaria and dies HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Jun 23, 2017 |
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Ensign Expendable posted:That's the most British thing I've read all day. Queueing is serious business.
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nothing to seehere posted:There's got to be something happening in places which arn't western europe right? Or are they too sensible to keep banging their heads on a brick wall like the British The middle east is pretty busy. In 1917 the British capture Baghdad and Palestine. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinai_and_Palestine_Campaign  
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nothing to seehere posted:There's got to be something happening in places which arn't western europe right? Or are they too sensible to keep banging their heads on a brick wall like the British *cough* Russia *cough*
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The real tragedy of the Russian Revolutions is that they stopped us from ever knowing how close General Yudenich and his merry men could have got to Constantinople  (He later led the White Russian march on Petrograd and then went into a quiet exile in France.)
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was there anywhere actually decent on the gallipoli peninsula to land? at the narrow point(to the north east of the landings), artillery could be fired from both europe and turkey into the invasion flee/invasion beaches and the water was undoubtedly mined. from the western edge of the peninsula where the landings actually occurred, you'd need to fight through a series of ridges and valleys perpendicular to your direction of movement to reach open land(which is in easy range of guns from europe and turkey). no matter where you land, the turks seem to have unmolested internal lines of supply across the straits.
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I would love to hear about the strategic bombing missions in WW1. There was a flight simulator with the gotha bomber in it and the goons I was playing with couldn't reliably get it off the ground. I can only imagine the raids were equally terrifying and farcical.
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Nine of Eight posted:If Trin doesn't plan on continuing his saga, I do own his diary in the original French and am willing to keep posting excerpts. We didn't hear about a couple of amusing incidents involving international solidarity.
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Splode posted:I would love to hear about the strategic bombing missions in WW1. There was a flight simulator with the gotha bomber in it and the goons I was playing with couldn't reliably get it off the ground. I can only imagine the raids were equally terrifying and farcical. If you want to hear about Zeppelins as strategic bombers I can help, but I too would like to hear about airplane bombing. I mean, one of the Zeppelin Strakken bombers had the wingspan of a B-29.
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HEY GAIL posted:the germans and british (or really, one german dude, one british dude, and 500 black guys who don't want to be there) herping and derping around africa On the subject of derping around Africa, I recently found this awesome BBC series on youtube called End of Empire, which profiles the end of colonialism in 12 British colonies. I watched one episode on Kenya and the Mau Mau uprising. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTtD8bxROmI&t=3054s And it was really cool definitely not a topic where there's a lot of approachable material. The episode on Aden was great too, The British somehow found themselves stuck fighting a serious insurgency just to leave the country. I really wish there was something equivalent for French colonies though, which I think are criminally undercovered. Anyone seen any documentaries on French colonialism in subsaharan Africa? How did France even come to occupy places like Chad in the first place?
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Nebakenezzer posted:If you want to hear about Zeppelins as strategic bombers I can help, but I too would like to hear about airplane bombing. I mean, one of the Zeppelin Strakken bombers had the wingspan of a B-29. Constructing something that size out of piano wire, wood veneer, and canvas, and launching it airborne takes serious chutzpah. I hope they put a "Look upon my works, ye mighty, and despair" plaque on each of them. aphid_licker fucked around with this message at 09:08 on Jun 24, 2017 |
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