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Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice
I have a couple hardcore neo-liberal facebook friends from high school. One of them posted this this morning

quote:

The Senate's version of the healthcare bill is a great illustration of zealous ideology over reasoned and pragmatic policy.

The GOP is tearing down any semblance of government being anything other than a power/cash grab and their concern is that people need to just be more reasoned and pragmatic.

Guillotines, people, not pragmatism.

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GOOD TIMES ON METH
Mar 17, 2006

Fun Shoe
The tick-tock of two party politics means that the Dems will likely win a shitload of seats in 2018 against an insanely unpopular president almost regardless of what they actually do.

The big problem imo isn't that the Dems won't get into power again but that they will be of the same type that won't actually fix anything fundamentally wrong with the country. If the left wing party isn't genuinely dedicated to addressing climate change/health care/wealth inequality/racial justice/constant war issues then the country is like super hosed.

Cinnamon Bear
Aug 29, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

comedyblissoption posted:

lol if the iraqi war taught us anything it's that you better have nuclear weapons to defend yourself if the US is sabre rattling that you have nuclear weapons

i don't get if thats the joke but the US saying you have weapons when you don't as an excuse to go in, of course doesn't work as a deterrent because they know you don't have them

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

jarofpiss posted:

it's important to promote socialists and leftists for office but the only path forward for this country is mass boomer death and i don't see the dems incorporating that into their platform any time soon

But gen x

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Thoguh posted:

I have a couple hardcore neo-liberal facebook friends from high school. One of them posted this this morning


The GOP is tearing down any semblance of government being anything other than a power/cash grab and their concern is that people need to just be more reasoned and pragmatic.

Guillotines, people, not pragmatism.

The Emmett Rensin LARB essay someone posted was a good takedown of this modern liberal technocrat castng of politics as nonpolitical and differences in policy only possibly coming from conservatives being dumb, not because their ideology is to kill the poor.

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer
https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/878248954349092865

I agree with Joementum.

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

As I understand it, Corbyn was nominated as a joke to fill out the nominee roster but the voting membership rebelled against the Blairites.

according to this article the voting system was different

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/17/labour-leadership-battle-jeremy-corbyn-party-organisation

Labour faces this chaos due to a radical rule change in 2014. It created a strict “one-person one-vote” electorate, where MPs had no more sway in the final outcome than ordinary members. Under the previous electoral college system, MPs and members each had one-third of votes and trade unions the remainder.

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



it's the medicaid recipients' own drat fault for not getting excited about consolidating federal data centers

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Barbe Rouge posted:

according to this article the voting system was different

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/17/labour-leadership-battle-jeremy-corbyn-party-organisation

Labour faces this chaos due to a radical rule change in 2014. It created a strict “one-person one-vote” electorate, where MPs had no more sway in the final outcome than ordinary members. Under the previous electoral college system, MPs and members each had one-third of votes and trade unions the remainder.

hmmm... getting rid of superdelegates...can produce candidates that are good? :thunk:

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


:lol: that the dems think they'll bring ACA back after AHCA passes

just :laffo: you loving idiots you had your chance for a corporate handout and you made it to handouty and now it's dead

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Homeless Friend posted:

lol if you don't think a decent amount of clinton voters would love to be her slave

also they would love to have slaves, as long as those slaves are diverse.

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer
https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/858007470073147393

remember guys

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Barbe Rouge posted:

according to this article the voting system was different

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/17/labour-leadership-battle-jeremy-corbyn-party-organisation

Labour faces this chaos due to a radical rule change in 2014. It created a strict “one-person one-vote” electorate, where MPs had no more sway in the final outcome than ordinary members. Under the previous electoral college system, MPs and members each had one-third of votes and trade unions the remainder.

I know that the election was changed to one member one vote, but in order to be nominated you needed the backing of like 25 MPs or somesuch. I don't have time to look this up so maybe a Britgoon can correct me.

The Ol Spicy Keychain
Jan 17, 2013

I MEPHISTO MY OWN ASSHOLE
jon ossoff has been completely humiliated and hopefully that robot will never ever run for government again.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

States that expanded Medicaid saw increased political population among the poor while states that did not expand Medicaid saw lessened participation.

Also, the retarded Democrats hosed themselves by not complying with the terms of the National Voter Registration Act:

Joe Oneck posted:


The Obama administration is committed to the expansion of voting rights and opposes state efforts to make voting more difficult. But, at the same time, the administration is implementing its signature domestic achievement – the Affordable Care Act (ACA) – in ways that ignore the National Voter Registration Act (NVRA) and actually curtail voter registration. With the next ACA enrollment period just days away, the administration should immediately review its position.

The NVRA, also known as the “motor voter law”, was enacted by Congress in 1993. It requires state agencies that provide public assistance to assist their patrons to register to vote. Under the Act, state agencies must not only provide voter registration forms to their patrons, they must also assist those patrons fill out the forms and transmit completed forms to the appropriate state election officials.

The Obama administration didn't include voter registration services in the ACA federal exchanges even though it acknowledges that state-operated exchanges must comply with the NVRA. This, of course, is inconsistent with the administration’s argument to the Supreme Court in King v. Burwell that the federal exchanges stand in the shoes of the state exchanges, an argument the Court essentially accepted.
Furthermore, it ignores the fact that millions of Americans use the federal exchanges to apply for Medicaid and Children’s Health Insurance Programs (CHIP), which are state programs. Indeed, the ACA requires all exchanges, including the federal exchanges, to provide a “single streamlined” application that includes enrollment in both Medicaid and CHIP.

Over the past two years, some 18 million Americans have applied for health insurance through the federal exchanges. Consistent with the NVRA, they should have received an opportunity to register to vote and assistance in filling out voter registration forms similar to the assistance that exchange employees and contractors provide in filling out ACA health forms. Instead, they have received no such assistance and nothing more than one easily overlooked line in the healthcare.gov application that mentions voter registration and a link to a hard to understand 25-page voter registration form. An important opportunity to register new voters has been lost.

Cinnamon Bear
Aug 29, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

ate poo poo on live tv posted:

also they would love to have slaves, as long as those slaves are diverse.

i went on a date with a pfizer suit once, who confided in me that her dream was to have african servants

so like i just want you to know that was a joke but also scarily accurate

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
https://twitter.com/LukewSavage/status/877992418624360453


has anyone posted this? cuz :laffo:

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013


oh my GOD

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008


holy poo poo you're right

he is straight-up doing an Obama impression

It's a pretty good one too, he's at like .75 Jordan Peeles here

e:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlxkcewBEe0

loquacius has issued a correction as of 15:28 on Jun 23, 2017

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008



I can no longer make fun of this guy, he owns himself too hard jesus

AstheWorldWorlds
May 4, 2011

loquacius posted:

holy poo poo you're right

he is straight-up doing an Obama impression

It's a pretty good one too, he's at like .75 Jordan Peeles here

Good God, they really need to recalibrate the folksy charm on that model. Hopefully the next revision won't be so sloppy.

ThndrShk2k
Nov 3, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Bread Liar

jarofpiss posted:

it's important to promote socialists and leftists for office but the only path forward for this country is mass boomer death and i don't see the dems incorporating that into their platform any time soon
I hear Mass is doing okay with their Boomer death rate.

Maine however is slowly becoming depopulated due to excelling at Boomer death, and ACHA is only gonna accelerate it.

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Willa Rogers posted:

^^^ I don't know what this means.


Look, I put in 40 years for the dems, and I'm still involved in issues activism like single-payer. I think it's great that some of you are involved in state-party politics and other intraparty activities and I loved reading the trip reports of activism in VS's thread.

I've detached because it's my coping mechanism, and because I want to believe that something better will come about down the road. And I just don't see that happening outside of a radical restructuring of the country's political processes.

:unsmith:

I think ultimately that reforming the dems into a right and proper leftist party is absolutely feasible if only because when even people who swore off the party before like the Chapo boys now want to get involved in it's reconstruction.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Venom Snake posted:

:unsmith:

I think ultimately that reforming the dems into a right and proper leftist party is absolutely feasible if only because when even people who swore off the party before like the Chapo boys now want to get involved in it's reconstruction.

Reconstruction has historically not been good for the Democrats.

The Ol Spicy Keychain
Jan 17, 2013

I MEPHISTO MY OWN ASSHOLE

LMAO

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ3j5jp5IoY

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

Shear Modulus posted:

The Emmett Rensin LARB essay someone posted was a good takedown of this modern liberal technocrat castng of politics as nonpolitical and differences in policy only possibly coming from conservatives being dumb, not because their ideology is to kill the poor.

Plz re-link


What the gently caress

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

GalacticAcid posted:

Reconstruction has historically not been good for the Democrats.

:drat:

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Uncle Wemus posted:

Plz re-link


What the gently caress

The Blathering Superego at the End of History -- Emmett Rensin at the Los Angeles Review of Books (underappreciated pub imo)

The Ol Spicy Keychain
Jan 17, 2013

I MEPHISTO MY OWN ASSHOLE
https://twitter.com/PoliticsPeach/status/878242333828960260

https://theintercept.com/2017/06/23/democratic-lobbyists-donald-trump-mottur-podesta-comcast-prudential/

"these people are parasites who have no real stake in who wins or loses because they'll keep making money off the status quo anyways" pt.XXIII

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

mormonpartyboat posted:

the democrats' biggest sin over the last dozen or so years is trying to outsmart that process by pre-triangulating and then tripping all over their dicks

:mmmsmug:

huh its almost as if it creates inauthenticity which people have desperately found respite in for answer seeking because they don't have the luxury of their convenient distractions anymore when they're busy dying ya

The Ol Spicy Keychain
Jan 17, 2013

I MEPHISTO MY OWN ASSHOLE

Lastgirl posted:

:mmmsmug:

huh its almost as if it creates inauthenticity which people have desperately found respite in for answer seeking because they don't have the luxury of their convenient distractions anymore when they're busy dying ya

this is a denny's mam...

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!


[extremely obama] it has nothing to do with me! .....it never has!

obviously not :jerkbag:

mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015

by Reene

Lastgirl posted:

:mmmsmug:

huh its almost as if it creates inauthenticity which people have desperately found respite in for answer seeking because they don't have the luxury of their convenient distractions anymore when they're busy dying ya

note to self: offer hash browns at next policy meeting

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

Scent of Worf posted:

this is a denny's mam...

Look do you want a tip or not

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

mormonpartyboat posted:

note to self: offer hash browns at next policy meeting

youd be surprised at how you can calm people down with comfort food

its almost as if the fast food industry......

naaah :thunk:

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:

Look do you want a tip or not

[removes top single from stack i set on the table at the beginning of the meal while never breaking eye contact]

Gene Hackman Fan
Dec 27, 2002

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Al! posted:

[removes top single from stack i set on the table at the beginning of the meal while never breaking eye contact]

table four wants a blt with the bs&t special

mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015

by Reene

Lastgirl posted:

youd be surprised at how you can calm people down with comfort food

its almost as if the fast food industry......

naaah :thunk:

goin straight edge but just for serotonin

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The Little Kielbasa
Mar 29, 2001

and another thing: im not mad. please dont put in the newspaper that i got mad.

There's like eight of us in the whole country. Please let us mumble our angsty lives out in comfortable peace.

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