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Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

buy some breathe-rite strips and give em away

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spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Mustang posted:

People that snore shouldn't be allowed to live

Literally every single mother fucker on my Stryker this rotation snores and it's driving me up a god drat wall. Waking them up does nothing because they go back to it as soon they fall back asleep. So close to just banning anyone that snores from sleeping in my Stryker

I learned to be fine with snoring as long as it's rhythmic. That sudden, giant snort out of nowhere is what bothers me.

Mustang
Jun 18, 2006

“We don’t really know where this goes — and I’m not sure we really care.”
It's 4 dudes and they don't snore in sync with each other

Thank god I only have a few more days left in this poo poo hole

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Mustang posted:

It's 4 dudes and they don't snore in sync with each other

Thank god I only have a few more days left in this poo poo hole

Ear pro, dog.

Mustang
Jun 18, 2006

“We don’t really know where this goes — and I’m not sure we really care.”
All ready using it, goes right through it

Zeris
Apr 15, 2003

Quality posting direct from my brain to your face holes.
lol try deploying

Diarrhea Elemental
Apr 2, 2012

Am I correct in my assumption, you fish-faced enemy of the people?
I honestly felt bad for the guys at Drum during field exercises in the middle of winter. You've got the choice of whatever lovely hooch or cement slab you can manage, or you can be toasty warm on a cot in a buttoned up FLA while listening to my demented chainsaw peel paint off the plywood walls.

FIDEL CASHFLOW
Oct 13, 2009
apparently 3 people died at NTC in the last few weeks in 3 separate incidents. my old unit is there :ohdear:

A Bad Poster
Sep 25, 2006
Seriously, shut the fuck up.

:dukedog:
Did you at least get to start a brush fire today, Mustang? There were 5 or 6 today by the time my shift ended.

Naked Bear
Apr 15, 2007

Boners was recorded before a studio audience that was alive!
Don't get mad at people who snore; it's not their fault. Yeah, it's irritating as gently caress, but that's a physical condition that they need help for. I'm still trying to get that poo poo sorted out years later. Right before my ETS, the squadron's PA said in no uncertain terms that, because I'm not the textbook old, fat guy, there's no possible way that I could have sleep apnea, even though I saw loving logs (but only on my back, hmmm) and people have seen me stop breathing (hmmm). I wouldn't have even known about it had my own CO not seen me stop breathing in the back of the truck; he brought it up the next morning because another (old) guy had recently died in his sleep thanks to undiagnosed sleep apnea.

Fake edit: I twice typed out and then deleted a little rant about lazy doctors and shitbag PA's, but nobody wants to read that. Point is, pay attention to your dudes and let them know what's up. Breathing is kind of important.

TheAlphaChaser
May 12, 2013
Why is sleep apnea so rampant in the Army? No joke about 75% of the NCOs in my old platoon had legit sleep study diagnosed sleep apnea. Two of them even had it bad enough they brought their CPAP machines to the field and would plug them in the Stryker.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

TheAlphaChaser posted:

Why is sleep apnea so rampant in the Army? No joke about 75% of the NCOs in my old platoon had legit sleep study diagnosed sleep apnea. Two of them even had it bad enough they brought their CPAP machines to the field and would plug them in the Stryker.

It could have something to do with VA benefits (sleep apnea is apparently a big %).

Also, it doesn't take much of a snore to get diagnosed.

My personal experience is the CPAP is some great sleep. Like, I can't imagine not sleeping with it.

bulletsponge13
Apr 28, 2010

I didn't have Sleep Appeal until after a couple deployments to Iraq. Thanks burn pits!

SwampDonkey
Oct 13, 2006

by Smythe

(and can't post for 4 years!)

bulletsponge13 posted:

I didn't have Sleep Appeal until after a couple deployments to Iraq. Thanks burn pits!

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016
I don't have sleep apnea or snore but Monty snores like a loving freight train sometimes.

He also howls in his sleep, though that's super rare.

And he spasms. And yelps.

It's so drat cute :3:

If a human is snoring I'm annoyed. Monty snoring rocks me to sleep though.

Zeris
Apr 15, 2003

Quality posting direct from my brain to your face holes.

Naked Bear posted:

Don't get mad at people who snore; it's not their fault. Yeah, it's irritating as gently caress, but that's a physical condition that they need help for. I'm still trying to get that poo poo sorted out years later. Right before my ETS, the squadron's PA said in no uncertain terms that, because I'm not the textbook old, fat guy, there's no possible way that I could have sleep apnea, even though I saw loving logs (but only on my back, hmmm) and people have seen me stop breathing (hmmm). I wouldn't have even known about it had my own CO not seen me stop breathing in the back of the truck; he brought it up the next morning because another (old) guy had recently died in his sleep thanks to undiagnosed sleep apnea.

Fake edit: I twice typed out and then deleted a little rant about lazy doctors and shitbag PA's, but nobody wants to read that. Point is, pay attention to your dudes and let them know what's up. Breathing is kind of important.

People with sleep apnea can do two things to prevent snoring: sleep on their side or stomach, and lose some loving weight. I have gotten in trouble for lobbing spitballs at a snoring obese chaplain in Jalalabad because gently caress it if I can't sleep why should he?

I'd have a lot of a sympathy for anyone who isn't fat but still snores though. Aside from your case I almost never hear of it.

Zeris fucked around with this message at 14:49 on Jun 23, 2017

Mustang
Jun 18, 2006

“We don’t really know where this goes — and I’m not sure we really care.”

A Bad Poster posted:

Did you at least get to start a brush fire today, Mustang? There were 5 or 6 today by the time my shift ended.

Not yet but maybe here soon since we're doing live fire now

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Zeris posted:

People with sleep apnea can do two things to prevent snoring: sleep on their side or stomach, and lose some loving weight.

You can be skinny as gently caress and still have a deviated septum.

Zeris
Apr 15, 2003

Quality posting direct from my brain to your face holes.
wahhhh my deviated septum

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Zeris posted:

wahhhh my deviated septum

My dumbass actually let the Army try and fix it with surgery. They made it worse. fml

not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u
I've had my nose broken a bunch of times so good luck me not snoring.

My wife said it got worse in the army though, don't know what the gently caress that's about.

Naked Bear
Apr 15, 2007

Boners was recorded before a studio audience that was alive!

Zeris posted:

People with sleep apnea can do two things to prevent snoring: sleep on their side or stomach, and lose some loving weight. I have gotten in trouble for lobbing spitballs at a snoring obese chaplain in Jalalabad because gently caress it if I can't sleep why should he?

I'd have a lot of a sympathy for anyone who isn't fat but still snores though. Aside from your case I almost never hear of it.
Yeah, I sleep on my side and it helps a lot. It doesn't completely stop the snoring because I still have difficulty breathing through my nose, but it's much, much better.

Aranan
May 21, 2007

Release the Kraken
If I sleep on my stomach, my lower back hurts all day. If I sleep on my side, my shoulders are sore for a few hours in the morning. If I sleep on my back, I snore.

My body is defective.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Aranan posted:

If I sleep on my stomach, my lower back hurts all day. If I sleep on my side, my shoulders are sore for a few hours in the morning. If I sleep on my back, I snore.

My body is defective.

CPAP machine bro. I sleep on my back with a pillow under my knees (takes the strain off my back) and it's wonderful.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
I don't always, but I can snore pretty bad sleeping on my back, which I do more often because of back issues. When under a lot of stress or if I drink before bed, it can be worse. Went to the doc to get looked at and the response was basically by the civilian off-post specialist "you're not fat, and you don't have the throat/nose/etc that leads to snoring, tell your spouse to get over it and that it's no biggie." So then I pushed for a sleep study and the way that worked at the time was some off-post tech would not call me for like a month, then they'd call at about 6 PM and ask if I could be in by 7, and I had better not have had any caffeine or alcohol in the last 24 hours, which of course I'd had one of the two when they're calling me on a Sunday night, and also it seemed like they magically knew when I had stuff I absolutely could not miss rear end-early the next morning. Said tech guy would be angry that this was a surprise to me, I'd tell him it was never scheduled ahead of time, he'd say they'd fix it with the scheduler. Repeat 3 times before I said gently caress it, and maybe I'll try again next post.

I also reported symptoms of this weird exploding head syndrome poo poo: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/exploding-head-syndrome-is-real-and-surprisingly-common/

The off-post doctor told me sometimes houses or apartments make noise. Lady, gently caress you, I only have it with any regularity when under a lot of stress, and I'm pretty sure my apartment doesn't make mechanical noises like "someone pounding on my door" or "banshee scream" or "my cellphone ringing" or "cellphone vibration alert" without any evidence of the above actually having happened. The pounding on door phantom noise is fun, because eventually I got very, very good at being at the door with a gun super fast and never saw any evidence whatsoever of a real person.

Being less pissed off or stressed and petting a cat before I go to bed seem to reduce the experience from entirely too damned often to once in a blue moon, though, so that's nice.

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!

I have to sleep on my side with a pillow between my legs. I still sometimes snore and grind my teeth so loving much.

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016
I snore if I'm sick. I was sick when I went to basic training and was snoring so loud I was keeping everybody in that big rear end 100 person bay awake and they started hitting me with pillows.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

Soulex posted:

grind my teeth so loving much.

You got yourself a not-mouth guard but kind of a mouth guard? Better than cracked teeth or loss of enamel.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT
Get muscular and your shoulders won't hurt from side sleeping. (This isn't a "you're a weak bitch"post, it was more of a "I didn't realize it till I put on some muscle mass.")

Or get a better pillow/bed. I love my Yogabed.

And putting a pillow between your legs is actually really good for spinal alignment and back pain.

Wasabi the J fucked around with this message at 22:38 on Jun 23, 2017

A Bad Poster
Sep 25, 2006
Seriously, shut the fuck up.

:dukedog:
I have a CPAP and got a memory foam mattress cover. That along with sleeping on my side with a pillow between my legs helped me a lot, but I still have an apnea if I don't use the machine. poo poo sucks.

Diarrhea Elemental
Apr 2, 2012

Am I correct in my assumption, you fish-faced enemy of the people?

Wasabi the J posted:

Get muscular and your shoulders won't hurt from side sleeping. (This isn't a "you're a weak bitch"post, it was more of a "I didn't realize it till I put on some muscle mass.")

Or get a better pillow/bed. I love my Yogabed.

And putting a pillow between your legs is actually really good for spinal alignment and back pain.

My shoulders don't hurt from side sleeping anymore, but now it feels like it's torquing my lumbar spine because I'm shaped like an upside down triangle. gently caress.

I really need to get a sleep study done, find where the gently caress my medical records are with the complaints of snoring/headaches/lethargy/etc and hit the VA up about it. lovely side bonus is I don't have to try super hard to get chicks to go the gently caress home at the end of the the night, just play a recording of me snoring on my sound system and the point gets made.

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016
This thread is deserving of an AARP membership

Vahakyla
May 3, 2013
A big rear end body pillow between my knees is what means the difference between a sore back and a great sleep. I feel old as hell for even thinking about it, but it helps amazingly. And especially after getting used to it, sleeping without leaves me feeling weird in a way where I just lay there and think "why the gently caress are my knees touching each other!?".

rifles
Oct 8, 2007
is this thing working
A SPC in my company went to AT this year about a week and a half after having a circumcision because he didn't want to lose out on the money.

Many broke-dick jokes were made

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Diarrhea Elemental posted:

My shoulders don't hurt from side sleeping anymore, but now it feels like it's torquing my lumbar spine because I'm shaped like an upside down triangle. gently caress.

I really need to get a sleep study done, find where the gently caress my medical records are with the complaints of snoring/headaches/lethargy/etc and hit the VA up about it. lovely side bonus is I don't have to try super hard to get chicks to go the gently caress home at the end of the the night, just play a recording of me snoring on my sound system and the point gets made.

Are you already in the system? If so call your local VA provider for an appointment, complain that your wife says you stop breathing at night (or you feel tired all day), and have him set you up for a sleep study. Go to the sleep study.

You can argue, on appeal, that conditions you saw a doctor for after you ETS'd are related to your military service (just so long as it isn't more than a year or so since you got out).

Also, if you have any buddies who were in with you, and heard you snoring/stopping breathing/whatever, they can do a witness statement that counts as evidence. There's even an official VA form for witness testimony on injuries.

Here it is for you: https://www.vba.va.gov/pubs/forms/VBA-21-4138-ARE.pdf

Find a buddy who still remembers you snoring your rear end off and have him fill it out (if you need the evidence).

*edit* I've helped two old vets get their benefits due to getting those witness statements from other Soldiers who were there when they got injured. One was a broken nose (that hosed up his breathing) in the first day of the invasion of Iraq, that he never got treated because it was a loving war.

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!

Vahakyla posted:

A big rear end body pillow between my knees is what means the difference between a sore back and a great sleep. I feel old as hell for even thinking about it, but it helps amazingly. And especially after getting used to it, sleeping without leaves me feeling weird in a way where I just lay there and think "why the gently caress are my knees touching each other!?".
poo poo is gonna get worse cause of airborne FYI

tyler
Jun 2, 2014

Lots of olds itt.

Diarrhea Elemental
Apr 2, 2012

Am I correct in my assumption, you fish-faced enemy of the people?

spacetoaster posted:

Are you already in the system? If so call your local VA provider for an appointment, complain that your wife says you stop breathing at night (or you feel tired all day), and have him set you up for a sleep study. Go to the sleep study.

You can argue, on appeal, that conditions you saw a doctor for after you ETS'd are related to your military service (just so long as it isn't more than a year or so since you got out).

Also, if you have any buddies who were in with you, and heard you snoring/stopping breathing/whatever, they can do a witness statement that counts as evidence. There's even an official VA form for witness testimony on injuries.

Here it is for you: https://www.vba.va.gov/pubs/forms/VBA-21-4138-ARE.pdf

Find a buddy who still remembers you snoring your rear end off and have him fill it out (if you need the evidence).

*edit* I've helped two old vets get their benefits due to getting those witness statements from other Soldiers who were there when they got injured. One was a broken nose (that hosed up his breathing) in the first day of the invasion of Iraq, that he never got treated because it was a loving war.

That form is actually exactly what I need, I'm pretty sure one of my other medic friends still has the FB video where we pulled an overnight for Lightfighter. poo poo was echoing in the FLA, felt bad for him and strung up a tarp the next night.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

TBeats posted:

This thread is deserving of an AARP membership


Nostalgia4Murder posted:

Lots of olds itt.

Would you be young and handsome all your life?
Would you be young and handsome all your life?
Well the odds are good that you,
will be dead by 22.
So you will be young and handsome all your life.


Diarrhea Elemental posted:

That form is actually exactly what I need, I'm pretty sure one of my other medic friends still has the FB video where we pulled an overnight for Lightfighter. poo poo was echoing in the FLA, felt bad for him and strung up a tarp the next night.

I will point out that the VA will also take photographic evidence as well. That guy with the broke nose also had a photo of himself right after he broke it (blood everywhere but smiling) that was submitted too.

If any of you have been released from Active Duty and not dropped your VA disability claim you're being bent over by the green weenie again. You contracted for compensation for ANY injury/condition/etc that occurred during your service (even athletes foot, or a messed up little toenail).

spacetoaster fucked around with this message at 00:40 on Jun 24, 2017

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Naked Bear
Apr 15, 2007

Boners was recorded before a studio audience that was alive!

spacetoaster posted:

Are you already in the system? If so call your local VA provider for an appointment, complain that your wife says you stop breathing at night (or you feel tired all day), and have him set you up for a sleep study. Go to the sleep study.

You can argue, on appeal, that conditions you saw a doctor for after you ETS'd are related to your military service (just so long as it isn't more than a year or so since you got out).

Also, if you have any buddies who were in with you, and heard you snoring/stopping breathing/whatever, they can do a witness statement that counts as evidence. There's even an official VA form for witness testimony on injuries.

Here it is for you: https://www.vba.va.gov/pubs/forms/VBA-21-4138-ARE.pdf

Find a buddy who still remembers you snoring your rear end off and have him fill it out (if you need the evidence).

*edit* I've helped two old vets get their benefits due to getting those witness statements from other Soldiers who were there when they got injured. One was a broken nose (that hosed up his breathing) in the first day of the invasion of Iraq, that he never got treated because it was a loving war.
Thanks for this, dude. I'll be making use of this.

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