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i was working on a mod that allowed for a Growing labor to be performed to keep fertility up in unpowered hydroponic basins but the project ended up spiraling out of control because quite frankly hydroponics are something of second class citizens right now. i ran out of time trying to get the fertility mechanics to work nicely.
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For hydroponics just grow rice. They benefit hugely from the fertility anyway and the crop turn around is so fast that losing one is usually meaningless. Once I get hydroponic rice up and going food is basically not a factor.
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I grow rice in the basins and healroot in the dirt around them. Provides food and medical care for a colony of 20+ with two sunlamp-lit rooms (and some outside farms).
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Simple Sidearms is so good you guys  http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=927155256 Grenades and molotovs are a big pain in the balls in vanilla. You either have a dedicated grenadier that you micromanage the gently caress out of so he doesn't your own dudes, or you don't use them. How about instead you have everybody in the squad have a long gun or a spear or what have you, and they also carry an EMP grenade or a molotov or heck, how about an incendiary launcher? And when the situation arises when you don't want to plink or stab but instead you need every goddamn tile lit up, you just click a button to switch weapons? Wouldn't that be just swell? It sounds like such an iffy mod but wow, give it a try if you haven't, it adds so much tactical depth without going completely nuts (there are limits on how much bullshit you can cram in your loadout). e: AAAA e: The more obvious use is "oh a guy stabbed me in the face with a guisarme, rather than drop my gun on the ground and go fisticuffs how about I pull out my badass Crocodile Dundee knife and cut off his appendages with it" but wow it makes grenades so much more useful Flesh Forge fucked around with this message at 04:37 on Jun 23, 2017 |
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Flesh Forge posted:Simple Sidearms is so good you guys That mod actually brought me back to the game because I was getting frustrated losing colonists to random animal attacks (though admittedly this was before i learned you can switch their behaviour to attack rather than flee)
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I had never messed with any of the game's recreational drugs before - I come from the Just Say No generation - so I finally got around to growing some smokeleaf and within the first year multiple people addicted and a case of cancer. Ok no more drugs for you guys 
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Smokeleaf is good to have at hand, but I only manually order pawns to smoke it when they are in an exceptionally bad mood, such as after a divorce. Otherwise everyone's drug policy is set to no drugs, and I don't recruit anyone who has the chemical interest trait.
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And then Tynan dropped a patch, maybe it's for the best  Tynan posted:Alpha17b performance hotfix released.
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Alpha17b has been out for almost 3 weeks at this point, hasn't it?
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enraged_camel posted:Smokeleaf is good to have at hand, but I only manually order pawns to smoke it when they are in an exceptionally bad mood, such as after a divorce. Otherwise everyone's drug policy is set to no drugs, and I don't recruit anyone who has the chemical interest trait.
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I had someone die specifically from wake up withdrawal and now I'm too nervous to touch the stuff 
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smokeleaf has never been a problem for me- i let them have it as much as they want- until someone gets shot in the head and then collapses every time they take a toke. no one ever lives long enough for carcinoma to become a serious problem
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Danaru posted:I had someone die specifically from wake up withdrawal and now I'm too nervous to touch the stuff
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Isn't addiction a chance regardless of the dosage rate? Or do you need to establish a pattern now? Seconding "smoke leaf for calming down emergencies"
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I've been avoiding adding content mods, but think it's about time I looked into it. Glittertech seems a little too much, but I'm considering EPOE and Recon and Discovery, which both get talked up a lot in this thread. Is there anything else worth looking into? I'm working solely with basic utility mods (and RimFridge) right now.
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Volmarias posted:Isn't addiction a chance regardless of the dosage rate? Or do you need to establish a pattern now?
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My understanding is that you cant get sick from drugs if they dont have a tolerance so 2 days for weed and beer and 3 for wake up and yayo. I think they just changed it so wake up and yayo have a random chance of causing addiction now. If you make them stop when tolerance flag appears you can pretty much avoid sickness or cancer. Withdrawal makes the pawn slow and sorta useless for a month but they get a huge hit to conciousness so anytime they are about to have a mental break or if they have chemical interest and try to go on a binge, making them smoke a joint will ko them instantly and you can drag them to a bed to sleep it off. A relapse doesnt reset the withdrawal counter just pushes it back a bit so relapsing them isnt a huge setback and in a pinch is an option. Yayo and wake up carry enough risk that if you dont want to go through withdrawal with a pawn dont touch it. Addiction on these is now innevatible since you can get addicted off one hit even if the chance is low it will eventually happen. I use it situationally because i think the gamble is worth if you have the time to micromanage their withdrawal if they get addicted. You can give a yayo addict wake up and it will revert a lot of the withrawal effects without halting withdrawal but then you are gambling with another addiction. Its the American way though so full apeed ahead imo.
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yeah the addiction chance on hard drugs is high enough that it can happen with just one usage so i'd definitely not encourage its routine use unless you are ready to nurse that addiction in one way or another. it will happen eventually. beer and weed are safe to use to divert mental breaks though, and that's their primary use. smokeleaf is obviously easier than beer since beer is this whole thing to make and smokeleaf just needs to be planted.
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Exactly. Consumption rate doesn't matter. It's a flat percentage chance, which is shown when you go to the info section for that drug.
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enraged_camel posted:Exactly. Consumption rate doesn't matter. It's a flat percentage chance, which is shown when you go to the info section for that drug. My understanding is there is a threshold that has to be met before addiction can occur and one dose every 2 days for weed and beer does not meet it. Yayo and wake up barely cross the threshold on a single dose so there is a brief window you can become addicted making it a random chance of instant addiction. Flake is way over this threshhold so its instant addiction. If you could do enough to drop your tolerance to 0 in a day without dying, addiction could still pop for like a month even if you dont touch it again because your tolerance has to decay back to around 85% 90% to clear the tolerance flag and low enough addiction cant be triggered.
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consumption rate DOES matter, the tolerance stuff definitely does make a big difference and it is the only way you're ever going to get addicted to weed or booze. but i'm pretty sure that hard drugs are addictive enough to be chancy even if it's only one hit so it's worth taking into account. the wiki says it's only possible to get addicted to wakeup if you have an 8% tolerance to it, but it also says that taking wake-up is a guaranteed heart attack in 2 years so ???
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Also pay attention to the date on anything with drugs if you are looking it up. I just had to look a bunch of stuff up and i guess they changed all this stuff in the last update so there is conflicting information out there regading the harder drugs like yayo and wake up. The wiki is accurate, but forum posts mostly arent.
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Coolguye posted:consumption rate DOES matter, the tolerance stuff definitely does make a big difference and it is the only way you're ever going to get addicted to weed or booze. but i'm pretty sure that hard drugs are addictive enough to be chancy even if it's only one hit so it's worth taking into account. the wiki says it's only possible to get addicted to wakeup if you have an 8% tolerance to it, but it also says that taking wake-up is a guaranteed heart attack in 2 years so ??? Yeah but i think a single dose now is like 15% tolerance or something so that first day theres like an 8% chance of addiction.
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But actually i dont know how it works. Is that a 8% chance dice rolled once? Every hour? 8% one hour 7% the next etc is actually a lot higher chance than 8%. So i dunno.
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Still relatively new, so I recruited a guy going through wake-up withdrawal and he was bedridden for over half a year and still has...brain problems...
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Wilekat posted:I've been avoiding adding content mods, but think it's about time I looked into it. Glittertech seems a little too much, but I'm considering EPOE and Recon and Discovery, which both get talked up a lot in this thread. Is there anything else worth looking into? I'm working solely with basic utility mods (and RimFridge) right now. Astra Militarum Imperial Guard is pretty great and adds a lot of content. I'll post my whole mod directory when I get home, there's a lot of fun content stuff. I'm currently hooked again. I went to my office once this week (today) and have around 45 hours clocked in the game since Monday. This game's a helluva drug Garfu fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Jun 23, 2017 |
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Grey Fox posted:Still relatively new, so I recruited a guy going through wake-up withdrawal and he was bedridden for over half a year and still has...brain problems... "If a pawn develops at least a large tolerance to Wake-up (50% severity), they will get Chemical Damage in the brain in a mean time of 120 in-game days. This results in a maximum consciousness of 50% for that pawn (slightly less severe than an unarmoured machine pistol shot to the brain) Dont do drugs kids, its as damaging as a machine pistol shot to the brain.
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Wilekat posted:I've been avoiding adding content mods, but think it's about time I looked into it. Glittertech seems a little too much, but I'm considering EPOE and Recon and Discovery, which both get talked up a lot in this thread. Is there anything else worth looking into? I'm working solely with basic utility mods (and RimFridge) right now. Hospitality mod is good. Chat up visitors for relationship boosts, recruit some if you really schmooze em. Cthulu mods are real good, but that heavily alters gameplay. Zombieland mod is fun, day of the dead. Eventually having all these drat zombie attacks is tiring. Rebuild mod (forget it's name) is a mod where a destroyed item automatically has a rebuild order. Helpfully for IED traps. I have paired this with the aforementioned zombies in order to set them all on fire when they attack now. Set up camp is a great QOL mod, pairs especially well with discovery and Recon mod. Fishing mod and hunt for me mods are great, but your pawns will never go hungry again.
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hand me that brick is the only mod i consider 100% crucial, even beyond prepare carefully. i have no idea why hand me that brick isn't official in the game at this point.
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Tynan probably thinks it makes the constructing jobs "too easy". 
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My mod directory: Static Quality PLus conflicts with the Star Wars mod so I disabled it and I didn't like how Fluffy Breakdowns worked but everything else is enabled. Garfu fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Jun 23, 2017 |
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Finally got a good base going in the crash landed scenario: A very effective kill box:  There were some problems with some of my walls on other fronts but i've got them thick enough now where everyone just filters into turret death. Got a mortar T-T-Triple Kill! Mortars are great for thinning the herd before a raid starts.  Had a couple raids back to back, things didn't go well for the raiders. 
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What triggers the name your colony/faction event? I've been playing this game for a few years now and we're still The New Arrivals.
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TACO_HERO posted:What triggers the name your colony/faction event? I've been playing this game for a few years now and we're still The New Arrivals. It always triggers within the first couple seasons for me. Sounds like the event is bugged for that colony.
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The Good Queen Clitoris posted:It always triggers within the first couple seasons for me. Sounds like the event is bugged for that colony. I've had the same issue, but my colony is only three people so far (wealthy explorer start) and I've been choosy on who I let in. I think you need four to trigger it.
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There is a lower pop threshold but I'm pretty sure it's only 1. Tynan might have changed it this alpha though 
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3 man starts still trigger it for me. The only thing i can think of is a second colony set up retriggers that build a bed, build a stove etc thing maybe that interupts it from firing. I had to ask earlier because i had those tags for a whole playthrough and couldnt figure out why they were stuck on. If its not that i saw the option in the dev mode action menu to trigger the event but I've never messed with that stuff so im not sure if itll cause jank.
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Which speaking of dev mode somebody needs to make a mod to let someone be your story teller and let them use the dev console to run your game.
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I've had issues with colony naming for awhile but I had written it off as a cthulhu mod thing.
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Slung Blade posted:I've had the same issue, but my colony is only three people so far (wealthy explorer start) and I've been choosy on who I let in. I've got 8+ and haven't gotten the event yet. Perhaps it's bugged since a17? I haven't gotten it since the update anyway.
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