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Was always disappointed that the WW2 Wolfenstein games never mentioned anything about the Holocaust. Was really hoping there was a concentration camp level in the 2001 version.
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Pre-TNO the earlier Wolfenstein games were pretty comedic "those dumb Nazis!!!" in tone and the story in them was the very definition of an excuse plot for an action game, so it wouldn't have worked at all.
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Jun 22, 2017 04:40
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Guy Mann posted:TNO: "They put a Nazi on the moon...gently caress you, moon." It's okay CoD WWII will be bringing that back later this year
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Jun 22, 2017 04:45
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I have to say that the first impressions in new order are pretty misleading. The opening sequence doesn't really represent the gameplay very well, since it is pretty scripted but that's okay. When you slap Wyatt to knock his nerves into gear that's where I was misled. It seemed so typically oorah that this manly man whips a young boy into shape with a few smacks. And then the rest of the level happened and I saw what they were going for.
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Arcsquad12 posted:I have to say that the first impressions in new order are pretty misleading. The opening sequence doesn't really represent the gameplay very well, since it is pretty scripted but that's okay. When you slap Wyatt to knock his nerves into gear that's where I was misled. It seemed so typically oorah that this manly man whips a young boy into shape with a few smacks. Fergus > Wyatt
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Jun 22, 2017 06:58
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Condoleezza Nice! posted:Fergus > Wyatt Agreed, but J is amazing on his own.
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Jun 22, 2017 07:06
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Saving Fergus also locks you out of "We just killed the bridge, sir!"
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Jun 22, 2017 07:08
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SirSamVimes posted:Saving Fergus also locks you out of "We just killed the bridge, sir!" Fergus' "dear mum, thanks for the socks" is the single best reaction to anything in the game.
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Jun 22, 2017 07:17
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And fergus's snap at bj for being old and tired better fits the game's theme on the old men losing meaning in their fight than Wyatt's breakdown over responsibility. Wyatt you're thirty years old grow up a bit, fergus was already old you don't have the same excuse.
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Jun 22, 2017 08:48
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Man going straight from Wolf 09 BJ to New Order BJ (or rather Old Blood) is pretty jarring.
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Jun 22, 2017 08:52
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Because he now has a personality beyond using nazis as pincushions?
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I just played through TNO again on Uber difficulty after seeing the trailer for TNC. I needed to finish collecting all the enigma codes and gold items anyway, so i figured I might as well get the achievement for Uber while I was at it. As it turns out, the hardest enemy in the game is not the mechs, or the Ubersoldats, or the hordes of normal soldiers. It's those armored guys with the auto shotguns. The normal enemies have pretty terrible accuracy if you're moving, but the shotgun guys pump out an absurd amount of damage if you're anywhere in line of sight for even a second. And they take a huge amount of punishment before going down, and unlike the larger enemies they can follow you basically anywhere. You can kill them with a charged up LCW but even the few seconds it takes to lock on to them can cost you 100+ health. Also the last boss on Uber is bullshit. Overall though it's still one of my favorite shooters. The shooting isn't that deep, but a lot of work has gone into making it feel satisfying.
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Jun 22, 2017 14:18
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That was my observation as well. Those shotgun dudes are brutal.
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Yeah, the shotguns will rip you apart if you're too close. Stay in cover on the highest two difficulty levels. Seconding about the last boss. I even considered turning down the difficulty.
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Jun 22, 2017 15:16
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Shotgun enemies still die in one hit from a rocket. And to beat deathshead just throw grenades at him while you run to the blimps.
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Shotgun guys die real fast to shots to the backpack, or by using laser weapons.
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Jun 22, 2017 17:05
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Or grenades if you managed to get the explode on contact perk.
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Arcsquad12 posted:Shotgun enemies still die in one hit from a rocket. And to beat deathshead just throw grenades at him while you run to the blimps.
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Jun 22, 2017 18:28
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Or is it Sputnik posted:Sure! It's the second phase, prolonged firefight in an ever-sorta-shrinking area that is the problem though. It felt real good to make it, but jeez I got tired of hearing "crawl into a hole. Won't help ya." I really didn't find it that bad. Same strategy, grenade him to stun and then unload on him with rockets and then AR marksmen lasers if it comes down to it. Just keep sprinting.
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I think on Uber the shotgun guys actually take two rockets to kill, but I didn't unlock everything in the demolitions tree so I might be missing a damage talent. The first stage of Deathshead wasn't the problem for me, it was the fact that the checkpoint for the second stage would always reload me with 60 health and no armor. So every single time I died to the second stage I would have to spend a couple of minutes cutting my way into every box or fence with armor or rockets behind them. Defeating the boss itself wasn't too bad after a few tries (shoot rockets directly at the cockpit, move away from him when he gets stunned, don't waste ammo shooting him until he's unstunned), but it was really annoying having the fight padded out that way. One of the few times I wished I could quicksave.
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Is there a way to see your perk progression (in Old Blood specifically), other than checking Steam Achievements? Like, how many more helmets I need to collect, etc.
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Jun 22, 2017 20:05
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Arcsquad12 posted:And fergus's snap at bj for being old and tired better fits the game's theme on the old men losing meaning in their fight than Wyatt's breakdown over responsibility. Wyatt you're thirty years old grow up a bit, fergus was already old you don't have the same excuse. I think they both work. Each one laments the loss of the other and felt they could have done a better job. Fergus feeling too old for this poo poo and Wyatt feeling too inadequate for this poo poo. Both, fed up with this poo poo.
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I'm working on a second playthrough right now and picked Wyatt. BJ has a line at the start where he admits to picking the wrong person to save which was pretty 
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Jun 22, 2017 20:17
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He says that either way I think? I feel like Wyatt is the "right" choice because Fergus spends a lot of effort keeping him alive.
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Cicadalek posted:He says that either way I think? I feel like Wyatt is the "right" choice because Fergus spends a lot of effort keeping him alive. Yeah. Fergus is able to face his death with at least some amount of acceptance and dignity, too; while Wyatt is screaming and begging to be saved the entire time he's being killed.
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dmboogie posted:Yeah. Fergus is able to face his death with at least some amount of acceptance and dignity, too; while Wyatt is screaming and begging to be saved the entire time he's being killed. That's why I went with Wyatt first.
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JohnnySavs posted:Is there a way to see your perk progression (in Old Blood specifically), other than checking Steam Achievements? Like, how many more helmets I need to collect, etc. It should be a tab on the in game menu screen
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Jun 23, 2017 07:08
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Press J for the journal. Perks tab. Gives you an exact counter for each one. Tip for the helmets: If you've maxed your armor and there are still more helmets around, blow up a fire extinguisher while standing next to it.
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OAquinas posted:Press J for the journal. Perks tab. Gives you an exact counter for each one. I always liked to imagine that on those times all I find are helmets BJ is just covered head to toe in them, giving me a reason why I sometimes sucked at stealth making so much noise clanking around wearing an armored vest of just helmets and leg armor that's helmets, my fists covered in a helmet each hand.
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RockPaperShotgun's Steam Sale recommendations are only tenuously related but I can't withstand a good pun:quote:Wolfenstein: The New Order for £7.49/$9.99 – A comatose soldier wakes up in a panic, but is quickly reassured by a nearby doctor, who tells him everything is alt right Also TNO is on sale and you should buy it I guess
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dmboogie posted:Yeah. Fergus is able to face his death with at least some amount of acceptance and dignity, too; while Wyatt is screaming and begging to be saved the entire time he's being killed. during the Fergus arc he gives you poo poo for saving him as he is an old dude approaching the end of his life and Wyatt had his whole life ahead of him.
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Somehow I missed this thread's existence. As many of you are aware (and as evidenced by the second post in this thread), I fuckin' love me some Weird War II and I especially love me some Wolfenstein (in all its flavors). I will never, ever get tired of killing virtual Nazis, holy poo poo.
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Wolf09 can let up on their gogogo script. You put money and fluff in weird areas and still expect me to race through corridors ignoring them?
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uber_stoat posted:during the Fergus arc he gives you poo poo for saving him as he is an old dude approaching the end of his life and Wyatt had his whole life ahead of him. He basically tells BJ to save Wyatt at the time too, doesn't he? Something like "it's ok, BJ, it's a war and people die."
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Finished my Wyatt playthrough. That scene where J died loving owned. He was a cool character in general for calling our BJ on his nationalism.
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I really hope someone can help me with this: I bought TNO on sale, and I haven't been able to get past the prologue. It hangs forever on any loadscreen after the initial load into the prologue. It seems like it's related to being unable to save? The spinning icon thing never goes away when I'm in game. I have no idea what the gently caress to do - I've tried a whole bunch of poo poo and none of it works, including clearing all my saves. The save icon went away once, without changing anything or ending the play session I checked to see if I could load, I could, then it stopped working and it hasn't worked since. edit: It did it again somehow, but it re-fucks itself after fixing the thingo that's spewing fire. It is beyond frustrating. I want to play the loving game. Gitro fucked around with this message at 14:50 on Jun 25, 2017 |
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Try verifying the files through Steam. It will take a while because the game is so large but if one or two files got weird during download it can cause problems. Also, just for fun, check GPU driver updates. It can't hurt.
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I presume you've googled it but some people found alt tabbing helped. I've never run into the issue unfortunately 
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Finished The Old Blood, while there were brief flashes of what I liked about TNO it mostly just kind of existed. Definitely got better as it went along though except for the dumb boss at the end.
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Nick Robinson of Car Boys and Cool Games Inc along with one of Polygon's other writers started a new series where they gush about how awesome TNO is, it's a glorified podcast since it's just the two of them chatting in Google Hangout but they bring up a few decent points about the game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3c0tkVKf70 I feel like they're definitely right about the trailer for The New Colossus making a bunch of people (re)discover The New Order by showing off all the crazy alternate history and narrative stuff that they didn't really do a good job marketing when the first game came out on top of striking a chord with all the contemporary concern about Nazism in America. qkkl posted:Was always disappointed that the WW2 Wolfenstein games never mentioned anything about the Holocaust. Was really hoping there was a concentration camp level in the 2001 version. The beginning of the concentration camp level in TNO was one of the few times where I wasn't 100% on board with the game, Frau Engel literally waving a crying baby around by the ankles at the beginning was just a bit much and while I get why they did it for pacing issues a grueling labor sentence being reduced to a 30 second puzzle of breaking the concrete mixer was kind of underwhelming. The rest of the level was fantastic though, both for gameplay and narrative. Sakurazuka posted:It's okay CoD WWII will be bringing that back later this year CoD is kind of in an unwinnable position where since they're covering the actual real-world war they have to be reverent and respectful for all the soldiers who really died but at the same time they sill have to have multiplayer with goofy zombie modes and blinged-out weapon skins; there was a recent kerfuffle about how CoD's multiplayer let's PoC characters play as Axis soldiers which is kind of a perfect encapsulation of all that, both choices have some really problematic connotations. Wolfenstein's supernatural/alt-history bent means that they can be more pulpy and fun without worrying about being insensitive or historically accurate. Or is it Sputnik posted:Yeah, the shotguns will rip you apart if you're too close. Stay in cover on the highest two difficulty levels. Seconding about the last boss. I even considered turning down the difficulty. One of my favorite gameplay moments in the entire series is getting the ricochet shot for the shotguns on the moon base level and then dual-wielding auto shotties to turn the narrow corridors into literal meat grinders.
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