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Just to confirm, since I'm very new to this. If I'm following the Codex for the Ultramarines Primaris, The Hellblasters get the little chevron on their right shoulders (as opposed to the Intercessors who get the little up arrow, and the Lt, Lt, Cpt and banner guy who get the skulls)? I'm looking the replicate the decals using those 3D printed pieces from Shapeways (arrows up, 4 arrows out, chevron, and skulls) and trying to make sure I get it right in terms of quantities to order - https://www.shapeways.com/product/TNJJL922T/4x10-squad-making-multipack-1?optionId=63010999
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Pendent posted:I'm looking at the rules for the Stormbird now and it doesn't say anything either way about transporting bigmarines, which is actually pretty funny. Cheaper if it's plastic. But still expensive. I have a Thunderhawk and if they price their thing with 80 transport capacity at the 800pt mark I'm going to punch the lid out of my hat.
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HerrBrau posted:I ended up winning a raffle prize that now adorns the wall above my hobby bench: Take it down. Gently iron or steam it to get rid of the creases, then put it back up.
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Literally everyone in my area who had sworn off 40k in the past ten years or so has fallen off the wagon for 8th. We all dug through our closets and found whole armies didn't even remember we had and now we're sending messages to each other organizing big triangle trades and poo poo. Feels like old times except now we all have money and no time.
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JoshTheStampede posted:Literally everyone in my area who had sworn off 40k in the past ten years or so has fallen off the wagon for 8th. We all dug through our closets and found whole armies didn't even remember we had and now we're sending messages to each other organizing big triangle trades and poo poo. Feels like old times except now we all have money and no time. There's been more games of 40k played at my FLGS in the last 3 weeks than the rest of the year combined.
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Master Twig posted:There's been more games of 40k played at my FLGS in the last 3 weeks than the rest of the year combined. Yeah, it had completely died out at my store, everyone was playing Blood Bowl, Guildball, and Infinity. Still are, but now they (and I) are feeling the old burn again.
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Forgeworld is bad at writing rules. Elysiums have an order called Move and shoot! which makes an infantry unit count all its weapons as assault weapons for a turn. This means pistols and grenades are also assault weapons.
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8th is great but generic and I'm hoping they bring the flavor on with upcoming codex releases Bring 8th edition to flavor country
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chutche2 posted:Forgeworld is bad at writing rules. I don't own why this matters, is it because they already work in assaults?
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JBP posted:I don't own why this matters, is it because they already work in assaults? No, its because now they get to throw a grenade and fire their pistol in addition to their gun.
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Grenade is now a weapon type, which says a unit can only throw one grenade a turn. Making grenades into assault weapons means each trooper in an elysian squad, who come stock with a lasgun, frag grenade, and can buy a krak grenade for 0 points, can shoot their lasgun and throw both grenades.
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Working on a 1000 point started army for Guard. Starting with mostly esoteric choices, then may grab all my 'standard' choices later on (I am thinking we may get new Guard plastics sometime?). The Scions can either jump in, ride the Taurox Primes, or deploy on foot, which gives me some solid flexibility. Priest, Commissar, and Psykers can form a decent blob to meatshield or hold objectives. Ratlings and Sentinels deploy forward to disrupt and/or support Scions if they jump in. Not super worried about how strong this is, mostly grabbing stuff I like. Any thoughts / suggestions on this? Guard Battalion (996 points) Tempestor Prime w/ Power sword and CMD Rod - 44 Lord Commissar w/ Power sword and bolt pistol - 55 Primaris Psyker - 40 Tempestus CMD Squad w/ Banner, Medic, Vox, and Plasma Gun - 66 Astropath w/ laspistol - 15 Ogryns - 90 Ratlings - 35 Conscripts x 20 - 60 Scion Squad w/ Volley / Melta / Vox - 122 Scion Squad w/ Volley / Melta / Vox - 122 Scout Sentinel w/ multi-laser - 45 Scount Sentinel w/ multi-laser - 45 Taurox Prime w/ Battle Cannon, Stubber, 2 x Volley Guns - 110 Taurox Prime w/ Gatling, Stubber, 2 autocannons - 112 Soldier o Fortune fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Jun 24, 2017 |
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I didn't realise you could use more than one weapon on a trooper if it was an assault weapon lol
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JBP posted:I didn't realise you could use more than one weapon on a trooper if it was an assault weapon lol Doesn't have to be assault. You can fire every non-pistol, non-grenade weapon you have, or all your pistols, or one grenade.
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Wait, what? So if I have a bolter and a bolt pistol on a Chaos marine I can fire both?
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goose willis posted:Wait, what? Non-pistol. You can either fire all non-pistols and non grenade weapons, or fire all pistols, or throw 1 grenade per unit. The order makes all weapons into assault. So pistols are no longer pistols, they're assault. Same with grenades. All models can do this. There are models that can take a bolter and a combi bolter and use both. A scout bike sergeant can have a twin linked bolter, a shotgun, and a combi-weapon and use all 3 at the same time as an example.
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Oh But a tank can still fire every single gun it has right?
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goose willis posted:Oh As long as the guns aren't pistols or grenades, yes. These rules hold true for every model in the game. An infantry model with 5 heavy weapons can shoot all of them, so can a tank. Edit: Also the leman russ conqueror is both better than and significantly cheaper than a standard battle cannon russ so that's fun. Not in a subjective way, but in that the conqueror cannon has the same statline other than 48 inch range, comes with a free coaxial storm bolter that has you reroll misses with the cannon if you fire it at the same target as the gun, and costs 19 points less. FW has been consistently lovely with these. chutche2 fucked around with this message at 04:07 on Jun 24, 2017 |
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chutche2 posted:As long as the guns aren't pistols or grenades, yes. These rules hold true for every model in the game. An infantry model with 5 heavy weapons can shoot all of them, so can a tank. Doesn't it do D3 damage instead of D6 too?
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my kinda ape posted:Doesn't it do D3 damage instead of D6 too? Regular battle cannons do d3 as well.
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chutche2 posted:Regular battle cannons do d3 as well. Oh yeah, battlecannons are dogshit lol
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Just realized I can put 6 flamers in a chimera with 2 special weapon squads.
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Veteran squad with 3 flamers, a heavy flamer, in a Chimera with a heavy flamer is not too bad. Also, just watched the latest Tabletop Tactics battle report with a super heavy with 4 twin linked heavy flamer sponsons. That's 8D6 automatic S5 hits whenever it gets charged. 
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Protip: don't charge a heldrake with some tactical marines "just because I have a powerfist" because that baleflamer is liquid bullshit on overwatch.
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My list for a 2000 point game on Tuesday. The strategy seems pretty self explanatory: advance/absorb with Pask, the Demolisher, and Guard blob. The HW squad, platoon commander and Battle Cannon LRs play the back field. Vets play the middle ground and react to how the game goes/capture objectives late game. Storm Troopers will basically do the same. ++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [53 PL, 895pts] ++ + HQ + Knight Commander Pask [14 PL, 247pts]: Lascannon, Plasma Cannons . Command Executioner: Turret-mounted Executioner Plasma Cannon + Elites + Platoon Commander [2 PL, 20pts] + Heavy Support + Heavy Weapons Squad [3 PL, 72pts] . Heavy Weapon Team: Lascannon . Heavy Weapon Team: Lascannon . Heavy Weapon Team: Lascannon Leman Russ Battle Tanks [22 PL, 364pts] . Leman Russ Battle Tank: Battle Cannon, Heavy Bolters, Lascannon . Leman Russ Battle Tank: Battle Cannon, Lascannon Leman Russ Demolishers [12 PL, 192pts] . Leman Russ Demolisher: Lascannon, Turret-mounted Demolisher Siege Cannon ++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [39 PL, 688pts] ++ + HQ + Tempestor Prime [2 PL, 41pts]: Bolt Pistol + Elites + Commissar [2 PL, 35pts]: Bolt pistol, Power sword Militarum Tempestus Command Squad [3 PL, 64pts] . Tempestus Scion: Plasma gun . Tempestus Scion: Plasma gun . Tempestus Scion: Plasma gun . Tempestus Scion: Plasma gun Special Weapons Squad [3 PL, 45pts]: 3x Guardsman . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Flamer . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Flamer . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Flamer Special Weapons Squad [3 PL, 45pts]: 3x Guardsman . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Flamer . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Flamer . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Flamer Veterans [6 PL, 86pts] . Veteran: Lasgun . Veteran: Lasgun . Veteran: Lasgun . Veteran: Lasgun . Veteran: Lasgun . Veteran Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol . Veteran w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun . Veteran w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun . Veteran w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun . Veteran w/ Vox-caster: Lasgun, Vox-caster Veterans [6 PL, 101pts] . Veteran: Lasgun . Veteran: Lasgun . Veteran: Lasgun . Veteran: Lasgun . Veteran: Lasgun . Veteran Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol . Veteran w/ Special Weapon: Meltagun . Veteran w/ Special Weapon: Meltagun . Veteran w/ Special Weapon: Meltagun . Veteran w/ Vox-caster: Lasgun, Vox-caster + Dedicated Transport + Chimera [5 PL, 93pts]: Heavy Bolter, Multi-laser Chimera [5 PL, 93pts]: Heavy Bolter, Multi-laser Taurox [4 PL, 85pts]: 2x Autocannon ++ Battalion Detachment (Imperium - Adeptus Astra Telepathica) [1 PL, 21pts] ++ + Elites + Astropath [1 PL, 21pts]: Psychic Barrier, Telepathica Stave ++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [25 PL, 396pts] ++ + HQ + Company Commander [3 PL, 30pts]: Chainsword, Laspistol Tank Commander [13 PL, 225pts]: Heavy Bolters, Lascannon . Command Battle Tank: Battle Cannon + Troops + Infantry Squad [3 PL, 47pts] . 8x Guardsman . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Flamer . Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol Infantry Squad [3 PL, 47pts] . 8x Guardsman . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Flamer . Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol Infantry Squad [3 PL, 47pts] . 8x Guardsman . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Flamer . Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol ++ Total: [118 PL, 2000pts] ++ Created with BattleScribe
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TwingeCrag posted:Protip: don't charge a heldrake with some tactical marines "just because I have a powerfist" because that baleflamer is liquid bullshit on overwatch. In 1996, i was playing a team game. My space wolves with some dude's Ultramarines vs Tyranids and Chaos. Dude charged a Lictor with a Space Marine Standard Bearer with a Powerfist. When asked of the reason for this he said, "He has a Powerfist!" The Lictor was victorious. My friend's and I still quote this.
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So we're talking about starting an escalation league. I have a 500 point guard and 500 point marine list I use for low points games, seems like a good opportunity to combine them. +++ New Roster (Warhammer 40,000 8th Edition) [60 PL, 1000pts] +++ ++ Battalion Detachment (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [31 PL, 500pts] ++ + HQ + Company Commander [3 PL, 36pts]: Bolt pistol, Frag grenade, Power axe + Troops + Infantry Squad [3 PL, 68pts] . . 6x Guardsman: 6x Lasgun . . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Flamer . . Heavy Weapon Team: Lasgun, Missile launcher . . Sergeant: Boltgun, Chainsword + Elites + Special Weapons Squad [3 PL, 39pts] . . 3x Guardsman: 3x Lasgun . . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Grenade Launcher . . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Grenade Launcher . . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Grenade Launcher Special Weapons Squad [3 PL, 43pts] . . 3x Guardsman: 3x Lasgun . . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Flamer . . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Flamer . . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Demo Charge + Heavy Support + Heavy Weapons Squad [3 PL, 27pts] . . Heavy Weapon Team: Lasgun, Mortar . . Heavy Weapon Team: Lasgun, Mortar . . Heavy Weapon Team: Lasgun, Mortar Leman Russ Battle Tanks [11 PL, 192pts]: Stat Damage (Leman Russ) . . Leman Russ Battle Tank: Battle Cannon, Heavy Bolters, Lascannon, Storm Bolter + Dedicated Transport + Chimera [5 PL, 95pts]: Heavy Bolter, 2x Lasgun Arrays, Multi-laser, Stat Damage (Chimera), Storm Bolter ++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [29 PL, 500pts] ++ + HQ + Captain [5 PL, 97pts]: Frag & Krak grenades, Relic blade, Storm bolter + Troops + Scout Squad [6 PL, 55pts] . . Scout: Astartes shotgun, Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades . . Scout: Bolt pistol, Boltgun, Frag & Krak grenades . . Scout: Bolt pistol, Boltgun, Frag & Krak grenades . . Scout: Bolt pistol, Boltgun, Frag & Krak grenades . . Scout Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Chainsword, Frag & Krak grenades Tactical Squad [9 PL, 175pts] . . 7x Space Marine: 7x Bolt pistol, 7x Boltgun, 7x Frag & Krak grenades . . Space Marine Sergeant: Chainsword, Combi-flamer, Frag & Krak grenades . . Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, Plasma cannon . . Space Marine w/Special Weapon: Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, Plasma gun + Heavy Support + Predator [9 PL, 173pts]: Predator autocannon, Storm bolter, Two Heavy Bolters Created with BattleScribe At 1500, I'd add in a squad of 4 company veterans with combi-plasmas, an assault cannon razorback to carry them and the captain, and a squad of cataphractii terminators. At 2000, add a chaplain, move my heavy support to a spearhead detachment, land raider crusader, apothecary, and a vindicare assassin. The list is super light on anti-bigstuff, with just the leman russ, predator autocannon, crusader's multimelta and a few heavy weapons scattered around. I'll have to be making sure to get my terminators into melee with stuff. But I don't want to make an overbearing list that kills everything and discoruages new players. Hopefully the other players will see it the same and not throw 8 dreadnoughts at me. I'll have to totally rethink if it we decide to go with PL instead though since this 2000 point list is 117 PL. Edit: Might go with a command squad instead of the special weapon grenade launcher squad. 2 less bodies, but makes them BS 3+ and lets me fit the company commander in the chimera to give orders to the two squads, either bring it down or take aim most likely. chutche2 fucked around with this message at 07:16 on Jun 24, 2017 |
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I really want to like the Primaris dread, but it looks like one of those weirdly fat guys with really thin legs :-(
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A guy just walked into the local store and bought 8th edition models, books and tabletop accessories for 1000 bucks and placed a few orders for things from the website via the store on top of that. He had apparently gotten back into it after quitting for several editions. Just minutes later another guy asked for a demo of the new rules and set himself up to buy the new imperium pack, which the store was slowly running low on. Followed by another demo for some kids who were most likely going to ask their parents for some models to play with. Right after I bought some new pathfinders while I waited for one of the tables to clear up where someone was playing a demons and astra game. Since the new release there have been more sales going on than almost a year's worth of 7th, even when that was popping. GW strategies seem to be paying off.
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There's really no shortage of people coming back after 10 year breaks right now.
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Hams are back in style baybeeeee!
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I had a good time painting this guy today: Now I just need to wait for the wash on his base to dry and I can drybrush it and glue on some grass.  e: here's another angle: 
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Artum posted:There's really no shortage of people coming back after 10 year breaks right now. It definitely got me, that's for sure.
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The Kingfish posted:My list for a 2000 point game on Tuesday. The strategy seems pretty self explanatory: advance/absorb with Pask, the Demolisher, and Guard blob. The HW squad, platoon commander and Battle Cannon LRs play the back field. Vets play the middle ground and react to how the game goes/capture objectives late game. Storm Troopers will basically do the same. Looks good. Would you benefit from Vox casters to ensure you can get orders to the right units when needed? And perhaps at least one Commissar to keep those squads in the game? Edit: somehow missed your Commissar there. Whoops. Soldier o Fortune fucked around with this message at 14:00 on Jun 24, 2017 |
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:It definitely got me, that's for sure. Yep. Game looked exciting again rather than frustrating.
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Corrode posted:Yep. Game looked exciting again rather than frustrating. I particularly like how I have options instead of meta lists.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:It definitely got me, that's for sure. Same here. I last played in 5th Edition. Got my old 'nids out of the cellar. I've been a die-hard Warmachine/Hordes player for the last couple years, but in it's current state, 40k is an awesome beer&pretzel distraction. I even bought a couple boxes to get my army up to snuff. WMH is still my go-to game, but it's cool to put my swarm back on the table.
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I haven't played a game since 2005, but I did get my models out and paint some of them about three or four years ago. My warhammer buddy from then told me last month he's buying models and wants to play. I didn't even know about 8th edition. Getting 1500 pts of necrons and about 1200 pts of guard dusted off and put back together to finish painting.
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