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It gets superheroes to escort battered women from their homes I think?
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They have rented office space and purchased one (1) laptop and a table to put it on.
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Jun 24, 2017 03:59
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Uber but the ladies sexually harass you instead.
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Jun 24, 2017 04:26
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Hollismason posted:What the gently caress does her non profit even do? Uber and shelter for domestic abuse victims but with superheroes, I think?
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Jun 24, 2017 04:35
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I said it many times before but a far better story would be Allison going "Okay I'm poo poo at everything except breaking things, let's see if I can make that work" and she just goes around punching things in a desperate attempt to help the world. Maybe she gets state sponsored by Panama and fights corporate supermercenaries in Afghanistan. I don't know, something like that. There's loads of lovely people in the world that could be punched into space. The only thing she has going that makes her unique in any way is her punch ability and the comic is actively running away from that.
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Jun 24, 2017 04:39
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It's been half a year since Buttlord updated. 
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Jun 24, 2017 11:37
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Skellybones posted:The only thing she has going that makes her unique in any way is her punch ability and the comic is actively running away from that. "Killing is making a choice" Allison is a big coward and her refusing to accept that she's a dumb murder machine is a big reason for the comics decline. Though in hindsight it's clear that the comics initial premise of being a "realistic" superhero comic was actually more of a cynical story choice rather than anything the comics wanted to genuinely try to be. It's easy to say that your comic is smart, but considerably harder to actually BE smart.
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Hellbunny posted:"Killing is making a choice" I think the comic started off strong, in that Allison was someone who realized that punching supervillains hadn't solved world hunger or political disenfranchisement, and was coming to terms with that. She stood for your average millennial do-gooder, and her super-strength was intentionally not that relevant to the good she wanted to do. Shame about how it turned out, of course. If Allison really wanted to do good she'd go into politics, inspire mass action - she's Superman. In real life, Superman radio shows helped weaken the KKK immensely in the 50s. Mega Girl is more important than Allison; Allison can punch people, Mega Girl can inspire them. But the comic hates politics, it hates mass action; it can only conceive of solidarity on the individual level, of friendship and emotional support. The first scene with mass action, protesters are presented as 'using' Allison as a shield, and this is bad and wrong. In actual politics, white activists in the Civil Rights Movement would be strategically placed in marches to dissuade police violence (if only a little). Allison is affronted that other people might see her as someone to use, but wants to use everyone around her - literally, in the case of Magic Trolley Problem Libertarian. The comic is at its strongest when it's about Allison's failings, but it never figures out what action she should actually take to improve the world (except introducing Magical Trolley Problem Libertarian, as noted). There's also a deeply undemocratic strain, obviously, that's been present since early on. Allison's great conversation with Cleaver includes her practically quoting Nietzsche: "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings, who think themselves good because they have crippled paws!" And she can empathize with him because of his super-strength; that similarity between them allows her to understand how his bad luck made him a miserable villain, and her good luck made her a hero. But does she try to change anything? No. She's realized something about herself, but that's it. It's all internal, it's all personal, it's never action. It's all bourgeois, it's all self-centered, it's all Clevin. (I have a lot of time on my hands this weekend and the dam finally burst, Clevin and Cleaver would literally annihilate like matter and antimatter if they touched)
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Jun 24, 2017 16:57
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I had never realized their names are almost the same, ha ha I bet that was intentional 
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Jun 24, 2017 17:28
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Turns out that Clevin is just Cleaver in a new body, trying to woo Allison. Someone asked him his name, he said "Cle-" and finished with "-vin" after panicking and not being able to think of anything else. The name stuck and now he's just doing his best to impersonate the kind of person he thinks that normal people are: sweet, saccharine, inoffensive, definitely not a murderer with knives for arms.
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Jun 24, 2017 18:46
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It's like Doctor Jeckyl and Mister Hyde except in reverse, Cleaver drinks a Nice Guy drink and becomes horrifyingly nice
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Joe Slowboat posted:My position exactly. It was initially obvious just from their own biographies that the author and artist didn't actually have any answers to this, and never would. There's plenty of theoretical subjects that people with no direct experience might have worthwhile views on, but the whole entire starting point of this was declaring the moral imperative to put what you've got into practice in some substantive way to better the world, here and now, and it's being announced by two people who have never done any such thing. Allison's adventures are a laundry list of the reasons why they imagine each individual form of activism is flawed and not worth trying, from a couple keyboard warriors who never actually attempted any of them. They're not going to theorycraft a more interesting model of the engaged citizen than you already have while sitting on the toilet. How could the story go anywhere? The quest was abandoned before it was ever begun. All we're missing at this point is the concluding arc where Allison, finally satisfied that she is the most woke, sits down to write a semi-autobiographical webcomic A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Jun 24, 2017 |
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Jun 24, 2017 20:02
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...I can't say that's unfair, I just had some hope for better things. For example, the Feral chapter, and her conversation with Cleaver. I admit that I sort of assumed the author must be, like, at least a little bit of an activist, prior to things taking a hard turn into Clevinville. But maybe that was my own heart-shaped pink glasses. Maybe I'm the Clevin.
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:It was initially obvious just from their own biographies that the author and artist didn't actually have any answers to this, and never would. There's plenty of theoretical subjects that people with no direct experience might have worthwhile views on, but the whole entire starting point of this was declaring the moral imperative to put what you've got into practice in some substantive way to better the world, here and now, and it's being announced by two people who have never done any such thing. Allison's adventures are a laundry list of the reasons why they imagine each individual form of activism is flawed and not worth trying, from a couple keyboard warriors who never actually attempted any of them. They're not going to theorycraft a more interesting model of the engaged citizen than you already have while sitting on the toilet.
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Jun 25, 2017 03:44
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Allison how could you
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Jun 27, 2017 11:51
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She'll get pregnant from holding hands with Clevin.
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Jun 27, 2017 12:05
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No because Mary is going to stab him in the dick on the next page!
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Jun 27, 2017 14:51
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Piell posted:Allison how could you ahahahaha
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Jun 27, 2017 23:03
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I'm very gay for that man
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Jun 27, 2017 23:17
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Piell posted:Allison how could you
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Jun 27, 2017 23:29
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So does Lake Girl just not wear clothes at all? Her fish privates just flapping in the breeze and no one cares because she's a unique fish monster? I mean The Thing is a pile of orange rocks and he puts little blue undies on for Christ's sake
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Jun 28, 2017 00:23
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That speech is so self-congratulatory it's infuriating. You haven't done anything yet why are you acting like it's already Mission Accomplished.
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EndOfTheWorld posted:So does Lake Girl just not wear clothes at all? Her fish privates just flapping in the breeze and no one cares because she's a unique fish monster?
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The Lord of Hats posted:That speech is so self-congratulatory it's infuriating. You haven't done anything yet why are you acting like it's already Mission Accomplished.
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Jun 28, 2017 03:46
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actually i probably shouldn't assume ostertag is a sheltered dumbass, because just by being an androgynous-looking openly gay girl she is being more activist than 90% of the population, but clevin mulligan is definitely someone who expects a blowjob for being able to pronounce nguyễn correctly
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Jun 28, 2017 03:54
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he dreams of the folds of mary wollstonecraft's petticoat and wakes up every morning with his hand on his dick, which is completely bald and the colour of a kraft cheez single
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Jun 28, 2017 03:57
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The Lord of Hats posted:That speech is so self-congratulatory it's infuriating. You haven't done anything yet why are you acting like it's already Mission Accomplished. They're enjoying the good times now since actually doing their job will involve emotionally exhausting and potentially dangerous work in domestic violence on a daily basis. Which we will never see in the comic because this speech is about to be disrupted by _______
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Jun 28, 2017 08:25
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...the death of Clevin
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The Lord of Hats posted:That speech is so self-congratulatory it's infuriating. You haven't done anything yet why are you acting like it's already Mission Accomplished. Well this IS the character whose introduction was basically "hubris is actually a good thing if you really are one of the elites" so it's at least consistent with her character.
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Jun 28, 2017 12:55
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Wait a second... in the first panel, someone is striking a fork against a champagne, but in the next panel the person giving the speech is holding a cane, presumably for support. Where the gently caress did the fork go? Did they tap the glass and then just throw it away, or are we dealing with some sort of sword-cane scenario... except with a fork-cane.
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Jun 30, 2017 06:40
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She has a cybernetic implant specifically for the occasion of needing a fork to strike against a champagne glass at parties.
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Even the drinks are all clevin
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Jun 30, 2017 09:24
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i just went to upload something totally unrelated on imgur and the upload window confronted me with this (poo poo! is my miscellaneous folder)
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Jun 30, 2017 10:40
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incidentally, the wikipedia screenshot at the bottom that's just a bit too tiny to read is the top of this
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Fuego Fish posted:Turns out that Clevin is just Cleaver in a new body, trying to woo Allison. Someone asked him his name, he said "Cle-" and finished with "-vin" after panicking and not being able to think of anything else. The name stuck and now he's just doing his best to impersonate the kind of person he thinks that normal people are: sweet, saccharine, inoffensive, definitely not a murderer with knives for arms. Okay, see, that would make this whole thing worth it. We could even factor in the time travel. Or maybe Clevin is one of Cleaver's tumors that grew so big it fell off and ran away.
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Of all the things this story pumps out this is by far the worst I've read that that's in light of the entirety of the rape saga. I really just want the next page to be SWAT and a number of super heroes busting down the warehouse door and arresting Allison for assault and whatever else that Congresswoman can slap her with. All of this self congratulating on a project that hasn't produced anything of value. All of this fellating the MC like she has accomplished anything. It's just making me want to drop this again and come back in a few months to see what else has gone stale.
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You will all have to forgive me. I'm used to addressing crowds in very different circumstances. This would be a lot easier for me if I was screaming YOU SHOULD ALL DIE! NOW DO WHAT I loving SAY OR I'M GOING TO KILL EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU!
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Jun 30, 2017 19:13
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My super power is patting myself on my super back
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Flesh Forge posted:You will all have to forgive me. I'm used to addressing crowds in very different circumstances. This would be a lot easier for me if I was screaming YOU SHOULD ALL DIE! NOW DO WHAT I loving SAY OR I'M GOING TO KILL EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU! Lol.
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