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The torso? I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to get a hole in that!
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Blue man shoots black girl because he got nervous. Eeeee.
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Jun 24, 2017 18:56
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Wow, they are laying it on heavy. But I'm worried it's all "trailer bait" or "Dusty Finish" style stuff.
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Jun 24, 2017 18:57
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I'm liking this take on the Gallifrey theme.
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Jun 24, 2017 18:58
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Oh gently caress yes I love these pre-Cybermen
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Jun 24, 2017 18:59
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This is really loving creepy and I love it!
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Jun 24, 2017 19:04
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And we get Dusty. But I'm liking it apart from that. Very creepy right now.
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Jun 24, 2017 19:05
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Jun 24, 2017 19:07
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I'm liking pound shop Zathras.
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Jun 24, 2017 19:10
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Mister Razor for next companion, please. 
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Jun 24, 2017 19:11
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Ohh it's got layers. Like a big old sci-fi onion.
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Jun 24, 2017 19:16
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Jun 24, 2017 19:26
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Ohhhh drat!
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Jun 24, 2017 19:29
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OH poo poo
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Jun 24, 2017 19:29
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That was uneven in parts but the spooky poo poo was great and the ending was fantastic.
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Jun 24, 2017 19:30
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Ffffffffff So is this negating Spare Parts? 
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Jun 24, 2017 19:31
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Jun 24, 2017 19:32
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I thought that episode was fantastic, it didn't feel like anything was happening but things were and I lost all track of time and I loved it. Definitely my favourite of this series.
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Jun 24, 2017 19:32
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I found Mr. Razor felt a bit contrived/forced though still reasonably fun. But with the context of it being the Master in disguise, befriending the Doctor's companion purely so he could build up trust and then betray her later though, he's loving perfect. It's just such a gloriously Master thing to do - take on this ridiculous persona for shits and giggles just so he can do something horrible to somebody later down the track, with the added bonus of loving with the Doctor in the meantime!
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Jun 24, 2017 19:37
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Mister Razor. Master Zirro? 
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Jun 24, 2017 19:39
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2r-XCrb4wrU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28uc4L4Z30A Well, we know he's not going yet, unless the Christmas special takes place earlier during his tenure... Perhaps during the 50-75 years he was guarding the Vault
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Jun 24, 2017 19:44
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The scenes with Bill in the hospital were wonderfully creepy but the some of the comic relief and meta commentary from Missy undermined the tone a bit.
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Jun 24, 2017 19:48
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No great surprise but Big Finish's special this week is based on the Cybermen - Spare Parts (get this), two seasons of the Cybermen standalone series, Legend of the Cybermen, The Silver Turk & Last of the Cybermen. I already own everything but the two Cybermen seasons (I heard they're not particularly good/interesting) but I've only listened to Spare Parts. It is really very, very good. Even if I think it's perhaps not quite the masterpiece others have said it is.
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Jun 24, 2017 19:54
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Jerusalem posted:I found Mr. Razor felt a bit contrived/forced though still reasonably fun. But with the context of it being the Master in disguise, befriending the Doctor's companion purely so he could build up trust and then betray her later though, he's loving perfect. Also worth noting that it took several years of acting like a complete tool in an awful butchers' shop of a hospital in the basement of a dying spaceship, for little to no apparent gain.
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Jun 24, 2017 19:57
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Murderion posted:Also worth noting that it took several years of acting like a complete tool in an awful butchers' shop of a hospital in the basement of a dying spaceship, for little to no apparent gain. EXACTLY! That's what makes it so fantastic, he spent YEARS being her friend just to gently caress with her (and more importantly, the Doctor!). Also a pretty good reminder of just how different time is for Time Lords. It's great how context can completely shift my take on a character. He was written as such a "character" that it felt really contrived, but it being the Master pretending to be somebody forgives a lot of that (I mean, it is still contrived writing for the character).
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Jun 24, 2017 20:03
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I'll admit, the ended clinched it in changing my opinon. I'm still not sure how the link back to the cold open bit is going to work out. But the rest? Ohh was a great twist. 
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Jun 24, 2017 20:18
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Jun 24, 2017 20:23
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DroneRiff posted:I'll admit, the ended clinched it in changing my opinon. I'm still not sure how the link back to the cold open bit is going to work out. But the rest? Ohh was a great twist. It's great because you see it coming a mile off and think "nahh, they wouldn't, would they?" It's up there with the twist in Heaven Sent. There's hints it's coming, you guess it's coming, the show straight up tells you it's gonna happen... and it still shocks you because you really, really don't want it to be true. You lie to yourself, the show doesn't.
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Jun 24, 2017 20:30
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Yeah, throughout the episode I knew exactly where things were going to go, an it still hit me pretty hard just due to the dramatic irony of the Doctor asking the Cyberman where Bill was.
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Jun 24, 2017 20:32
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"You might even call it... a GENESIS". gently caress, if I didn't already know I would have lost my loving poo poo. I still kinda did.
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Jun 24, 2017 20:46
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The_Doctor posted:So is this negating Spare Parts? Just gonna tell myself that Spare Parts is their pre-Time War origin and that then the fuckery of the war (and the involvement of this post-War Master) changed things so this new origin happened. We can have both!
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Jun 24, 2017 21:24
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Vinylshadow posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2r-XCrb4wrU Some not-quite-on-set info from the spoiler thread suggests that the Christmas episode might be at least partially a sort of It's A Wonderful Life retrospective/flashback episode taking place as the Doctor is regenerating
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Jun 24, 2017 21:46
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That was pretty good, nice and atmospheric. Pity the next episode looks like cg battle schlock
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Jun 24, 2017 21:56
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John Simms feels a lot more Master-y than he did during his appearances during the Tennant episodes. Simms actually gets something to do than gurning like a loon, and when he was, it felt more organic to the plot. I also really like the way Bill is written, so her sexuality is an aspect of her character, not her entire character. If RTD was still showrunner, I get the feeling she'd be written like a Carry On.... character.
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Jun 24, 2017 21:56
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So this takes place post-EoT, right? Because the Master refers to himself as a former Prime Minister, indicating it's post-LOTTL, and there's no real legroom afterwards to fit a Master story in.
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Jun 24, 2017 21:59
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Namtab posted:That was pretty good, nice and atmospheric. Pity the next episode looks like cg battle schlock With only two episodes left I'm going to go all in on Trusting The Moff
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Jun 24, 2017 22:02
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Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck Edit: I mean, I guess this obliterates Spare Parts... wait, no, it doesn't have to at all, there could have been a parallel technological advance on Mondas as it happened on the ship.
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Jun 24, 2017 22:02
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2house2fly posted:With only two episodes left I'm going to go all in on Trusting The Moff I don't trust him, not after the monks
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Jun 24, 2017 22:04
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About halfway through the episode it clicked for me that this was a multi Master ep and that Razor was the Master in a completely pointless mask, and I loved the episode all the more when it was revealed to be so. Hmm, too early to say, but a good Cyberman story? Say it ain't so!
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TinTower posted:So this takes place post-EoT, right? Because the Master refers to himself as a former Prime Minister, indicating it's post-LOTTL, and there's no real legroom afterwards to fit a Master story in. Well, the Master got sucked back into timelocked Gallifrey with Rassilon, and then moments later the whole planet was saved by Edit: been taking pics. 
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