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Labour | 907 | 49.92% | |
Theresa May Team (Conservative) | 48 | 2.64% | |
Liberal Democrats | 31 | 1.71% | |
UKIP | 13 | 0.72% | |
Plaid Cymru | 25 | 1.38% | |
Green | 22 | 1.21% | |
Scottish Socialist Party | 12 | 0.66% | |
Scottish Conservative Party | 1 | 0.06% | |
Scottish National Party | 59 | 3.25% | |
Some Kind of Irish Unionist | 4 | 0.22% | |
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian | 3 | 0.17% | |
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist | 36 | 1.98% | |
Misc. Far Left Trots | 35 | 1.93% | |
Misc. Far Right Fash | 8 | 0.44% | |
Monster Raving Loony | 49 | 2.70% | |
Space Navies Party | 39 | 2.15% | |
Independent / Single Issue | 2 | 0.11% | |
Can't Vote | 188 | 10.35% | |
Won't Vote | 8 | 0.44% | |
Spoiled Ballot | 15 | 0.83% | |
Pissflaps | 312 | 17.17% | |
Total: | 1817 votes |
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Cerebral Bore posted:You mean when you can vaguely remember one of them interchangeable rap people saying something similar on social media and in interviews? Maybe he's got the selective face-blindness my uncle has that prevents hi mfrom distinguishing Samuel L Jackson from Lawrence Fishburne.
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# ? Jun 24, 2017 23:20 |
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Braggart posted:What on earth is his point? That Corbyn wouldn't have been able to exhort a bunch of toffs with appeals to common decency? We already know they don't give a poo poo about poor people or their situations. corbyn is fine at enticing the unwashed masses with his talk of magic money trees but there's no way that sort of nonsense is going to hold with our sensible well-bred betters
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# ? Jun 24, 2017 23:21 |
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It's very simple, he just needs to promise to unban fox hunting and consaguinous marriage.
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# ? Jun 24, 2017 23:22 |
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Piers Plowman > Piers Morgan, imho Also Glastonbury is good now
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# ? Jun 24, 2017 23:24 |
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J_RBG posted:Piers Plowman > Piers Morgan, imho Isn't it? Stormzy's set is as gently caress, he even gives a shoutout to his mum.
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# ? Jun 24, 2017 23:25 |
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Angepain posted:corbyn is fine at enticing the unwashed masses with his talk of magic money trees but there's no way that sort of nonsense is going to hold with our sensible well-bred betters Not sure if the well heeled attendees of Glastonbury are quite the 'unwashed masses'.
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# ? Jun 24, 2017 23:26 |
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TomViolence posted:Isn't it? Stormzy's set is as gently caress, he even gives a shoutout to his mum. He put her in one of his music videos and it was very . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxbzujA69DA
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# ? Jun 24, 2017 23:27 |
Here's a hell of a hot take from the spectator. Glastonbury wouldn't survive under a Corbyn governmentquote:What would happen to Glastonbury if Jeremy Corbyn really did win a general election rather than just think he did? Don’t count on it continuing to exist at all. You might still get a few big acts flying in for a few days to perform there, but they certainly wouldn’t be living in Britain any more. They would do as the Rolling Stones and countless others did in the 1970s: decamp to a tax haven, quick. How many of those cheering young Corbynistas know the story behind the Rolling Stones’ album Exile on Main Street, which was completed in the South of France after the Stones had fled the Inland Revenue? https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/06/glastonbury-wouldnt-survive-corbyn-government/ The comments section is impressively bad.
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# ? Jun 24, 2017 23:28 |
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Pissflaps posted:Not sure if the well heeled attendees of Glastonbury are quite the 'unwashed masses'. i'm glad you want to have an unironic Lower Class Than Thou argument again which this thread is beloved for but in this instance they probably are to piers morgan who I was speaking in the voice of also this is glastonbury so I think on a literal level unwashed might be accurate
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# ? Jun 24, 2017 23:29 |
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Pissflaps posted:Not sure if the well heeled attendees of Glastonbury are quite the 'unwashed masses'.
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# ? Jun 24, 2017 23:31 |
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Angepain posted:corbyn is fine at enticing the unwashed masses with his talk of magic money trees but there's no way that sort of nonsense is going to hold with our sensible well-bred betters Yeah, that possibility occurred to me, but if so it's a remarkably out of touch and fawning thing to say. But Piers Morgan I suppose.
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# ? Jun 24, 2017 23:31 |
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Pissflaps is to authentic working class experience what Coohoolin is to Scotland. When will this minstrelsy end.
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# ? Jun 24, 2017 23:33 |
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Pissflaps posted:For. Both the Tories and Labour are pro hard Brexit. For very different reasons. And likely very different results. TomViolence posted:Pissflaps is to authentic working class experience what Coohoolin is to Scotland. He work in the computer mines like all working class people. Mining 'cattes' for 'yospos'. Regarde Aduck fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Jun 24, 2017 |
# ? Jun 24, 2017 23:33 |
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it still would be pretty good if corbyn could broaden his appeal to the working class a bit, mind. i think he's got a really good lock on the truly destitute and downtrodden, and then the more middle class educated types (and anyone young at all) but there's still quite a big chunk of the working class who lack consciousness of that fact.
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# ? Jun 24, 2017 23:34 |
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Regarde Aduck posted:For very different reasons. And likely very different results. He should have spent some time on stage explaining why Brexit is actually a good thing.
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# ? Jun 24, 2017 23:36 |
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# ? Jun 24, 2017 23:36 |
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Regarde Aduck posted:For very different reasons. And likely very different results. You should see him in the UK TV thread it's like he's a different person altogether. Maybe it's multiple people working multiple shifts.
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# ? Jun 24, 2017 23:37 |
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Skinty McEdger posted:Here's a hell of a hot take from the spectator. Glastonbury wouldn't survive under a Corbyn government Hmmm. You'd think if this if this analysis made any sense at all that Michael Eavis would be less friendly towards Corbyn. quote:A Corbyn government would presumably want to introduce pay ratios for bands, as he does for public sector contractors – so Thom Yorke’s pay would be pegged to that of the guy who lumps around the amplifiers for Radiohead. I think he might just go and play Las Vegas instead. Ah yes, let's make poo poo up about what a Corbyn government might do that could potentially sound kind of bad if we spin it properly.
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# ? Jun 24, 2017 23:39 |
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We talked about this before: would nationalising Glastonbury be such a bad idea? That way everyone who wants to go could go?
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# ? Jun 24, 2017 23:41 |
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Pissflaps posted:He should have spent some time on stage explaining why Brexit is actually a good thing. A theoretical left brexit could be good. Just not for aspirational types who want a yaucht in the next five years. The economy is going to be hit either way. But services could easily improve under a labour government. Doubt anything will stop your tv getting more expensive. It's crunch time. What do we 'leftists' really care about? Equality or raising the upper limit of living quality? The real bad end is both failing. Pinch of salt and everything, I'm merely a simpleton with no background in economics.
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# ? Jun 24, 2017 23:41 |
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Skinty McEdger posted:Here's a hell of a hot take from the spectator. Glastonbury wouldn't survive under a Corbyn government I like the part where they talk about how unaffordable it would be for organisers to pay festival staff under Labour changes and then point out how the tickets are 20 times more expensive in real times nowadays. Err.
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# ? Jun 24, 2017 23:43 |
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Pissflaps posted:We talked about this before: would nationalising Glastonbury be such a bad idea? That way everyone who wants to go could go? No, but you see when something is nationalised you're legally mandated to rename the place ominously. In this way everyone may be reminded that it is a Bad Idea™ without having to think of arguments against it.
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# ? Jun 24, 2017 23:43 |
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Pissflaps posted:We talked about this before: would nationalising Glastonbury be such a bad idea? That way everyone who wants to go could go? Quick! Contact the Spectator and tell them this is what Corbyn's planning! They can update their article.
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# ? Jun 24, 2017 23:44 |
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Pissflaps posted:We talked about this before: would nationalising Glastonbury be such a bad idea? That way everyone who wants to go could go? efforts of fairness, you've talked about nationalizing Glastonbury before my favorite festivals (well, "festivals") I've been to have been Big Weekends, which are nationalized and run by the state broadcaster, free, choose venues that aren't mainstream and I've personally been fortunate enough to attend 2 of (one of which, Carlisle, would otherwise see the Foo Fighters, Lady Gaga and the Arctic Monkeys in 2011 only if their jets somehow collided midair above the city). they let me see my at the time favorite band and introduced me to several more of my favorite all time bands, despite the fact I extremely poor at both times. so, yes. it's possible and it's awesome. it's far from perfect, but it can work.
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# ? Jun 24, 2017 23:48 |
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Pissflaps posted:Not sure if the well heeled attendees of Glastonbury are quite the 'unwashed masses'.
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# ? Jun 24, 2017 23:55 |
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Braggart posted:Hmmm. You'd think if this if this analysis made any sense at all that Michael Eavis would be less friendly towards Corbyn. The right-wing rags absolutely adore writing those kind of fantasy scenarios - like "The First 100 Days in Prime Minister Corbyns Britain", or "What if Remain won - what would have happened in the next 5 years if Britain stayed in the EU" - I see them fairly often in the Mail on the occasions I have to read it. They love them because they can just make up whatever outrageous poo poo they fancy, like Juncker selling the Queen to Hamas and replacing the English language with German, or Corbyn nationalizing all chip shops and calling for an IRA military occupation of Britain. Unlike their usual articles/editorials, they don't have to spin or rely on any kind of facts, evidence or reality: they can just make up whatever the gently caress they want so long as it panders to the worst fears/insecurities of their readers and ridicules their targets. After all - its just satire/humour! (it rarely is - its usually tediously unfunny gobshite intended to ensure the target is constantly ridiculed and not taken seriously). Tigey fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Jun 25, 2017 |
# ? Jun 24, 2017 23:57 |
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TomViolence posted:Pissflaps is to authentic working class experience what Coohoolin is to Scotland. Quite possibly the best analogy of the year so far?
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# ? Jun 25, 2017 00:00 |
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Tigey posted:The right-wing rags absolutely adore writing those kind of fantasy scenarios - like "The First 100 Days in Prime Minister Corbyns Britain", or "What if Remain won - what would have happened in the next 5 years if Britain stayed in the EU" - I see them fairly often in the Mail on the occasions I have to read it. I'm so loving glad they're losing relevance. They may not get called on it publicly, but every time they write something this hamfistedly stupid a few more people shake their heads and move on.
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# ? Jun 25, 2017 00:02 |
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Miftan posted:Quite possibly the best analogy of the year so far? Why do you think it's a good analogy?
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# ? Jun 25, 2017 00:03 |
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The crowd at Ascot is more working class than the crowd at Glastonbury. Not sure if that means anything or not, and Peirs Morgan probably didn't even know that, but it's true.
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# ? Jun 25, 2017 00:12 |
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Pissflaps posted:Why do you think it's a good analogy? Piss off, flaps. Owen Jones getting people to go door knocking on doors in BoJo's, Rudd's and IDS' constituencies to get them out next general, I guess everyone is sure it'll be very soon. I would absolutely love them to lose their seats, it's actually very possible. BoJo has the biggest majority at 5k and Labour have had bigger swings than that last time around. Rudd's hanging on by a fingernail with 300.
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# ? Jun 25, 2017 00:14 |
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Miftan posted:Piss off, flaps. Why do you struggle to imagine a working class person posting what I post? Do I use too many syllables to be authentic enough for you?
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# ? Jun 25, 2017 00:16 |
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TomViolence posted:Pissflaps is to authentic working class experience what Coohoolin is to Scotland. For what it's worth, Coohoolin does have a Scots accent.
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# ? Jun 25, 2017 00:16 |
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Pissflaps posted:Why do you think it's a good analogy? cause Coohoolin's identity is based around his scottishness, despite having a bunch of things incongruent with the idea of Scottishness in the public perception (I've never, and never will, call him out for that - I'm a firm believer that choosing to live somewhere demonstrates far more commitment to a nation then being a citizen by some accident of geography. Coohoolin and I don't get on a lot for a lot of reasons, but gently caress anyone who thinks that an immigrant is any less a citizen then a natural born one). he's comparing it to you, who are proudly working class, despite having a bunch of things incongruent with being working class (like how much you are paid, and your profession). i disagree with that almost as strongly - we both know drat well that even if you were making far more then you do right now in a far posher role people would treat you differently because of your backround - they loving poo poo on Precott for having the audacity to have to once work as a waiter. i do wish you'd respond to my post, though- i thought it was a good argument about the state sponsoring the events you don't like, and I would be interested to hear your views on it.
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# ? Jun 25, 2017 00:18 |
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Skinty McEdger posted:Here's a hell of a hot take from the spectator. Glastonbury wouldn't survive under a Corbyn government Oh my word, that is hilarious. Do hope someone shows it to Eavis, it'll give him a good laugh.
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# ? Jun 25, 2017 00:19 |
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CoolCab posted:cause Coohoolin's identity is based around his scottishness, despite having a bunch of things incongruent with the idea of Scottishness in the public perception (I've never, and never will, call him out for that - I'm a firm believer that choosing to live somewhere demonstrates far more commitment to a nation then being a citizen by some accident of geography. Coohoolin and I don't get on a lot for a lot of reasons, but gently caress anyone who thinks that an immigrant is any less a citizen then a natural born one). For what it's worth you're absolutely right on both counts, but it's a loving funny analogy. Especially because Coohoolin barely posts here anymore and I somewhat forgot he exists.
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# ? Jun 25, 2017 00:23 |
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CoolCab posted:he's comparing it to you, who are proudly working class, despite having a bunch of things incongruent with being working class (like how much you are paid, and your profession). i disagree with that almost as strongly - we both know drat well that even if you were making far more then you do right now in a far posher role people would treat you differently because of your backround - they loving poo poo on Precott for having the audacity to have to once work as a waiter. I have never once posted in this thread how much I am paid, nor what my profession is. How do you know this information? CoolCab posted:i do wish you'd respond to my post, though- i thought it was a good argument about the state sponsoring the events you don't like, and I would be interested to hear your views on it. Sorry I must have missed it could you link or quote it? Miftan posted:For what it's worth you're absolutely right on both counts, but it's a loving funny analogy. Especially because Coohoolin barely posts here anymore and I somewhat forgot he exists. Same to you also then: how do you know how much I earn and what my profession is?
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# ? Jun 25, 2017 00:24 |
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CoolCab posted:cause Coohoolin's identity is based around his scottishness, despite having a bunch of things incongruent with the idea of Scottishness in the public perception (I've never, and never will, call him out for that - I'm a firm believer that choosing to live somewhere demonstrates far more commitment to a nation then being a citizen by some accident of geography. Coohoolin and I don't get on a lot for a lot of reasons, but gently caress anyone who thinks that an immigrant is any less a citizen then a natural born one). Actually my analogy was more the opposite, that Pissflaps's efforts to present himself as Authentically Working Class actually play into the ventriloquized, imaginary vision of the (white) working class (AKA thumbheaded van drivers) presented to us by opinion-makers in the media. I don't care how much Pissflaps makes or what his financial situation is, he's putting on proleface to try and cut other folk down for not matching up to an entirely warped vision of working class identity.
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# ? Jun 25, 2017 00:25 |
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Ascot has large stages and PA systems you can use to address crowds now? I thought it was horse racing. Sounds like it's got crazy down there.
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# ? Jun 25, 2017 00:26 |
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TomViolence posted:Actually my analogy was more the opposite, that Pissflaps's efforts to present himself as Authentically Working Class actually play into the ventriloquized, imaginary vision of the (white) working class (AKA thumbheaded van drivers) presented to us by opinion-makers in the media. I don't care how much Pissflaps makes or what his financial situation is, he's putting on proleface to try and cut other folk down for not matching up to an entirely warped vision of working class identity. Actually, this is exactly what you're doing by suggesting that I - who have the temerity to disagree with you - do not have correct opinions to be a working class person. You have a fixed idea of what a working class person should be, what they should think, and how they should post. I don't fit into your preconceptions so you conclude I am not working class.
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# ? Jun 25, 2017 00:27 |