Cerebral Bore posted:

You mean when you can vaguely remember one of them interchangeable rap people saying something similar on social media and in interviews?

Braggart posted:

What on earth is his point? That Corbyn wouldn't have been able to exhort a bunch of toffs with appeals to common decency? We already know they don't give a poo poo about poor people or their situations.

J_RBG posted:

Piers Plowman > Piers Morgan, imho

Also Glastonbury is good now

Angepain posted:

corbyn is fine at enticing the unwashed masses with his talk of magic money trees but there's no way that sort of nonsense is going to hold with our sensible well-bred betters

TomViolence posted:

Isn't it? Stormzy's set is as gently caress, he even gives a shoutout to his mum.

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What would happen to Glastonbury if Jeremy Corbyn really did win a general election rather than just think he did? Don’t count on it continuing to exist at all. You might still get a few big acts flying in for a few days to perform there, but they certainly wouldn’t be living in Britain any more. They would do as the Rolling Stones and countless others did in the 1970s: decamp to a tax haven, quick. How many of those cheering young Corbynistas know the story behind the Rolling Stones’ album Exile on Main Street, which was completed in the South of France after the Stones had fled the Inland Revenue?

Whether the festival could bear the cost of Corbyn’s minimum wage and the banning of zero-hours contracts is another matter. How would the contractors who put on Glasto afford the caterers and the security staff with a minimum wage of £10 and no flexibility in how they employ staff? How would the lesser bands afford the roadies if they had to be employed on permanent contracts guaranteeing them so many hours work a week even when the band wasn’t touring? A Corbyn government would presumably want to introduce pay ratios for bands, as he does for public sector contractors – so Thom Yorke’s pay would be pegged to that of the guy who lumps around the amplifiers for Radiohead. I think he might just go and play Las Vegas instead.

A Corbyn government might like to look at the ticket prices, too, which have increased from £1 in 1970 to £238 this year – that’s a 20-fold increase even allowing for inflation. Perhaps they will be capped, to stop the festival becoming even more middle class. If Corbyn really wants to emulate his socialist heroes, Michael Eavis will find himself having Worthy Farm nationalised beneath his nose, turned into state farm number 101.

Pissflaps posted:

Not sure if the well heeled attendees of Glastonbury are quite the 'unwashed masses'.

Pissflaps posted:

Not sure if the well heeled attendees of Glastonbury are quite the 'unwashed masses'.

Angepain posted:

corbyn is fine at enticing the unwashed masses with his talk of magic money trees but there's no way that sort of nonsense is going to hold with our sensible well-bred betters

Pissflaps posted:

For. Both the Tories and Labour are pro hard Brexit.

TomViolence posted:

Pissflaps is to authentic working class experience what Coohoolin is to Scotland.

When will this minstrelsy end.

Regarde Aduck posted:

For very different reasons. And likely very different results.

TomViolence posted:

Regarde Aduck posted:

For very different reasons. And likely very different results.


He work in the computer mines like all working class people. Mining 'cattes' for 'yospos'.

Skinty McEdger posted:

Here's a hell of a hot take from the spectator. Glastonbury wouldn't survive under a Corbyn government


https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/06/glastonbury-wouldnt-survive-corbyn-government/

The comments section is impressively bad.

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A Corbyn government would presumably want to introduce pay ratios for bands, as he does for public sector contractors – so Thom Yorke’s pay would be pegged to that of the guy who lumps around the amplifiers for Radiohead. I think he might just go and play Las Vegas instead.

A Corbyn government might like to look at the ticket prices, too, which have increased from £1 in 1970 to £238 this year – that’s a 20-fold increase even allowing for inflation. Perhaps they will be capped, to stop the festival becoming even more middle class.

Pissflaps posted:

He should have spent some time on stage explaining why Brexit is actually a good thing.

Skinty McEdger posted:

Here's a hell of a hot take from the spectator. Glastonbury wouldn't survive under a Corbyn government


https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/06/glastonbury-wouldnt-survive-corbyn-government/

The comments section is impressively bad.

Pissflaps posted:

We talked about this before: would nationalising Glastonbury be such a bad idea? That way everyone who wants to go could go?

Pissflaps posted:

We talked about this before: would nationalising Glastonbury be such a bad idea? That way everyone who wants to go could go?

Pissflaps posted:

We talked about this before: would nationalising Glastonbury be such a bad idea? That way everyone who wants to go could go?

Pissflaps posted:

Not sure if the well heeled attendees of Glastonbury are quite the 'unwashed masses'.

Braggart posted:

Hmmm. You'd think if this if this analysis made any sense at all that Michael Eavis would be less friendly towards Corbyn.


Ah yes, let's make poo poo up about what a Corbyn government might do that could potentially sound kind of bad if we spin it properly.

TomViolence posted:

Pissflaps is to authentic working class experience what Coohoolin is to Scotland.

When will this minstrelsy end.

Tigey posted:

The right-wing rags absolutely adore writing those kind of fantasy scenarios - like "The First 100 Days in Prime Minister Corbyns Britain", or "What if Remain won - what would have happened in the next 5 years if Britain stayed in the EU" - I see them fairly often in the Mail on the occasions I have to read it.

They love them because they can just make up whatever outrageous poo poo they fancy, like Juncker selling the Queen to Hamas and replacing the English language with German, or Corbyn nationalizing all chip shops and calling for an IRA military occupation of Britain. Unlike their usual articles/editorials, they don't have to spin or rely on any kind of facts, evidence or reality: they can just make up whatever the gently caress they want so long as it panders to the worst fears/insecurities of their readers and ridicules their targets. After all - its just satire/humour! (it rarely is - its usually tediously unfunny gobshite).

Miftan posted:

Quite possibly the best analogy of the year so far?

Gonzo McFee posted:

https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/878664466333913088

Pissflaps posted:

Why do you think it's a good analogy?

Miftan posted:

Piss off, flaps.

TomViolence posted:

Pissflaps is to authentic working class experience what Coohoolin is to Scotland.

When will this minstrelsy end.

Pissflaps posted:

Why do you think it's a good analogy?

Skinty McEdger posted:

Here's a hell of a hot take from the spectator. Glastonbury wouldn't survive under a Corbyn government


https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/06/glastonbury-wouldnt-survive-corbyn-government/

The comments section is impressively bad.

CoolCab posted:

cause Coohoolin's identity is based around his scottishness, despite having a bunch of things incongruent with the idea of Scottishness in the public perception (I've never, and never will, call him out for that - I'm a firm believer that choosing to live somewhere demonstrates far more commitment to a nation then being a citizen by some accident of geography. Coohoolin and I don't get on a lot for a lot of reasons, but gently caress anyone who thinks that an immigrant is any less a citizen then a natural born one).

he's comparing it to you, who are proudly working class, despite having a bunch of things incongruent with being working class (like how much you are paid, and your profession). i disagree with that almost as strongly - we both know drat well that even if you were making far more then you do right now in a far posher role people would treat you differently because of your backround - they loving poo poo on Precott for having the audacity to have to once work as a waiter.

i do wish you'd respond to my post, though- i thought it was a good argument about the state sponsoring the events you don't like, and I would be interested to hear your views on it.

CoolCab posted:

he's comparing it to you, who are proudly working class, despite having a bunch of things incongruent with being working class (like how much you are paid, and your profession). i disagree with that almost as strongly - we both know drat well that even if you were making far more then you do right now in a far posher role people would treat you differently because of your backround - they loving poo poo on Precott for having the audacity to have to once work as a waiter.

CoolCab posted:

i do wish you'd respond to my post, though- i thought it was a good argument about the state sponsoring the events you don't like, and I would be interested to hear your views on it.

Miftan posted:

For what it's worth you're absolutely right on both counts, but it's a loving funny analogy. Especially because Coohoolin barely posts here anymore and I somewhat forgot he exists.

CoolCab posted:

cause Coohoolin's identity is based around his scottishness, despite having a bunch of things incongruent with the idea of Scottishness in the public perception (I've never, and never will, call him out for that - I'm a firm believer that choosing to live somewhere demonstrates far more commitment to a nation then being a citizen by some accident of geography. Coohoolin and I don't get on a lot for a lot of reasons, but gently caress anyone who thinks that an immigrant is any less a citizen then a natural born one).

he's comparing it to you, who are proudly working class, despite having a bunch of things incongruent with being working class (like how much you are paid, and your profession). i disagree with that almost as strongly - we both know drat well that even if you were making far more then you do right now in a far posher role people would treat you differently because of your backround - they loving poo poo on Precott for having the audacity to have to once work as a waiter.

i do wish you'd respond to my post, though- i thought it was a good argument about the state sponsoring the events you don't like, and I would be interested to hear your views on it.

Gonzo McFee posted:

https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/878664466333913088

TomViolence posted:

Actually my analogy was more the opposite, that Pissflaps's efforts to present himself as Authentically Working Class actually play into the ventriloquized, imaginary vision of the (white) working class (AKA thumbheaded van drivers) presented to us by opinion-makers in the media. I don't care how much Pissflaps makes or what his financial situation is, he's putting on proleface to try and cut other folk down for not matching up to an entirely warped vision of working class identity.