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I just want to chime in and say that I was reading this discussion and just realized that my M-audio Keystation 61e is 11 years old as of this past March and it's still going strong. It's not fancy, but it works.
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MisterPlastic posted:A Wurlitzer 200a in very good condition is available to me for more than half a months pay check, if i drive 6 hours one way to go get it. i could do this, or buy the latest DSI prophet rev 2 for about the same (expensive) price. I mostly am reading sheet music and jamming with the drumbrute. Which would be the most reasonable plan for fair deals? That's not the worst price I've ever seen for a 200a (depending on condition) but I absolutely would not drive 6 hours for it. And, as the owner of a 200a, I would absolutely take a Prophet-6 or OB-6 over it. And this is after spending half a year refurbishing it myself.
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Jun 25, 2017 18:40
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rickiep00h posted:And this is after spending half a year refurbishing it myself. this is why id prefer a rhodes i cant imagine the hell of tuning with a soldering iron
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Jun 25, 2017 20:35
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mrbradlymrmartin posted:but tbh you can play whatever song you want on whatever synthesizer you want Allow me to be more specific. I will be using all 10 fingers over the course of at least 5 octaves. A synth like the MatrixBrute allows using 3 fingers to press the keys at once, max. This wouldn't be able to play a full score. This one dsi prophet rev 2 seemed as if the only new analog keyboard with enough 'voices.' Am I right? People seem mostly split regarding DSI (dead sound instruments). I for one have an Ensoniq SQ-2 88 keys that I'm ready to part with.
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Jun 25, 2017 21:10
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Anyone ITT use Push 2? If so, what do you think?
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Jun 25, 2017 21:46
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if you're in a sunday evening mood to just let a load of sequences wash over eachother and also you; & are happy with that stasis https://soundcloud.com/scatterfold/phexioenesystems-basic-body [bonus streichfett strings which is a v v underrated cheap funbox imho]
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Jun 25, 2017 22:43
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Scatterfold posted:if you're in a sunday evening mood to just let a load of sequences wash over eachother and also you; & are happy with that stasis You're after my heart, man. What are you using to generate sequences? My modular is basically being taken over by generative components. I picked up an Arpiteched earlier this month, and have the Triad coming, and can at this point make a nearly hands-off three-voice generative song if I want. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbowZgcd1s0
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Jun 26, 2017 00:18
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Oldstench posted:Anyone ITT use Push 2? If so, what do you think? I know there are a few Push2 users around and you may want to cross post in the Ableton thread. I have heard from pretty much every other user/friend that has one that it is essentially the hardware extension of Ableton. It offers pretty much full control over Live and limitless customization options. My local friend basically said he can't imagine producing in Ableton without it now.
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Jun 26, 2017 01:47
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Oldstench posted:Anyone ITT use Push 2? If so, what do you think? It rocks so hard. It's super easy to start with but also incredibly (dauntingly) deep. Easily worth buying, on sale often enough that it might be worth waiting, makes Ableton better. A+
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Jun 26, 2017 04:54
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Tayter Swift posted:You're after my heart, man. What are you using to generate sequences? that one is pretty overkill - there's the modular itself (which is one of the background layers - you hear it clean right at the very end); the two more forward ones are both in reaktor 6 - lots of randomisation; lots of shift registering. i hate ever having to program a single note tbqh.
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MisterPlastic posted:Allow me to be more specific. I will be using all 10 fingers over the course of at least 5 octaves. A synth like the MatrixBrute allows using 3 fingers to press the keys at once, max. This wouldn't be able to play a full score. This one dsi prophet rev 2 seemed as if the only new analog keyboard with enough 'voices.' Am I right? People seem mostly split regarding DSI (dead sound instruments). I for one have an Ensoniq SQ-2 88 keys that I'm ready to part with. To play all 10 fingers at once, you need at least 10 voice "polyphony". You'll need more voices if you expect to do so with a patch that has any "release", i.e.: if the note takes time to stop playing after you release the key. This is basically going to limit you to a digital synth. Few analog synths are going to have this much polyphony. 8 voices is pretty common for an analog. You correctly identify the prophet rev 2 as having 16 voice polyphony, but you also correctly identify it as sounding "sterile" due to its DCOs and Curtis filters. I'm not aware of any other "new" synths like this. You might consider buying rackmounted or desktop synths that are capable of "chaining" together to add up to enough polyphony. Something like an Oberheim Matrix 1000 or maybe the MKS80 does it, I don't know. Maybe someone can chime in with more suggestions.
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I've tried but I simply cannot resist the OB-6 any longer. Having a hard time deciding between keys or module version. Presumably they're functionally equivalent but I've never played any DSI keys. Is there a compelling reason to favor one version vs the other for reasons other than form factor?
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Push 2 is a massive upgrade over the original and (with a little bit of effort) mostly replace your keyboard/mouse interfacing. Ableton has an their Loop event in November, and I suspect we'll be getting Live 10 announced. You might be able to get a cheap bundle then. I doubt they'll drop a Push 3 until another year or so after that.
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Jun 26, 2017 17:50
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magiccarpet posted:Push 2 is a massive upgrade over the original and (with a little bit of effort) mostly replace your keyboard/mouse interfacing. Eh, I went ahead and bought it. I'm impatient.
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Jun 26, 2017 17:58
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I think Push 2 will last a couple of years and get some big software upgrades when Live 10 drops. It's a hugely versatile controller and the new Simpler shows what can be done from a software only perspective. Not that Live 9 and Push2 isn't already a force to be reckoned with. God knows what they'll add in Live 10, as Live 9.7 is already such a stonking beast that ticks so many of my boxes. I often find myself not even looking outside the stock Suite. Push 2 just makes it even better.
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Plavski posted:I think Push 2 will last a couple of years and get some big software upgrades when Live 10 drops. It's a hugely versatile controller and the new Simpler shows what can be done from a software only perspective. Plavski posted:I think Push 2 will last a couple of years and get some big software upgrades when Live 10 drops. It's a hugely versatile controller and the new Simpler shows what can be done from a software only perspective. If Live 10 is announced in November, what's a reasonable expectation for when it will be released? I have been wanting a Push2 for a while but have been putting it off in hopes of sale. I expect they will have a Push 2 and upgrade bundle from 9.7 to 10 but don't want to wait nearly a year for it.
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A Live 10 announcement is just rumoured. No-one knows anything yet only that beta releases have been slowing down. If it's announced in November, it'll probably be a good few months before launch anyway. But honestly, it's all guesswork and no-one knows anything. Your best bet for a Push2 will be the 30% off sales they occasionally do.
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Plavski posted:A Live 10 announcement is just rumoured. No-one knows anything yet only that beta releases have been slowing down. If it's announced in November, it'll probably be a good few months before launch anyway. But honestly, it's all guesswork and no-one knows anything. Your best bet for a Push2 will be the 30% off sales they occasionally do. Thanks a lot! I'll keep an eye out for a sale.
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Oldstench posted:Eh, I went ahead and bought it. I'm impatient. You definitely won't regret it. It's pretty amazing.
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MisterPlastic posted:Got it, will not buy. Do you think the DSI rev 2 would be good to play Final Fantasy songs? Any other suggestions? At least 5 octaves and polyphonic capabilities to handle Nobou Oumatsu (sp)'s sickest jams. You want realistic sounding copies of real instruments: do not buy analog or any virtual analog that is not a Virus TI. Even as a NES emulator analogs and virtual analogs suck because they did a lot of tricks to the sound that gives it a specific quality (read: obsessive micro event editing more like a tracker to fake delay, reverb, extra notes) and unless you get a Nord Modular you are not going to find that kind of thing in regular mod matrices. You are better off with Plogue Chipsounds for NES or Kontakt and https://impactsoundworks.com/product/super-audio-cart/ for SNES. In what way is the Ensoniq disappointing you? Basically any new Roland or Korg or Yamaha workstation will have more and better sounds with more polyphony but the build quality is going to be worse than that Ensoniq. But 
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Speaking of Kontakt and synths, there's a bundle on now that is basically all of Samplephonics' Kontakt stuff plus a year's subscription to Noiiz for crazy cheap. http://vstbuzz.com/deals/88-off-everything-bundle-samplephonics/?mc_cid=87b5312e1a&mc_eid=badadf5de4 I have Noiiz but haven't used it much yet. Some of those Samplephonics libraries are absolutely awesome, though; I'm a huge fan of Dirty Modular, Philicorda, and their 808/909 instruments.
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Laserjet 4P posted:but the build quality is going to be worse than that Ensoniq. But literally held together with cardboard. the thing sounded beautiful, the display was gorgeous and it was the easiest machine ive ever edited that wasnt kpf, but having to replace the battery and seeing what cheap poo poo the inside was made me so happy to flip it maybe they got better? idk
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Yea all the ensoniqs were absolutely built to a price point. Speaking of, Cubase is giving 40%off upgrades coupon code UPDATE17.
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So there might be an Octatrack 2 coming? http://www.juno.co.uk/products/elektron-octatrack-dps1-mkii-dynamic-performance-sampler/655893-01/
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Gringostar posted:So there might be an Octatrack 2 coming? who gives a gently caress when u can get a ~ B R A N D ~ N E W ~ odyssey &&& minimoog for the same price hahahahahha nothing matters 
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mrbradlymrmartin posted:who gives a gently caress when u can get a ~ B R A N D ~ N E W ~ odyssey &&& minimoog for the same price hahahahahha nothing matters i think you mean brand new behringer minimoog for $299
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dj bobby bieber posted:i think you mean brand new behringer minimoog for $299 Good lord only 299 now? I shouldn't buy another synth right now but I almost have to right? Edit: Huh, articles say there is a pre-order on sweetwater but I can't seem to find it. MrSargent fucked around with this message at 07:45 on Jun 29, 2017 |
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Can't find that thing in Europe to order. Take my money Behringer damnit!
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Plavski posted:Can't find that thing in Europe to order. Take my money Behringer damnit! You can pre-purchase it on bax-shop but it seems they increase the price every week
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MrSargent posted:Good lord only 299 now? I shouldn't buy another synth right now but I almost have to right? It got disappeared quick. Wouldn't doubt the price after the Roland se2 announcement though. Octatrack II announced. Prepare to be underwhelmed lol.
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n/m I'm dumb
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Hello. I'm saving up for a synth and doing some research in advance so I know exactly how much I need to save up. Are we still all recommending the Arturia minibrute for a starter synth like the OP says?
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https://www.elektron.se/octatrack-mkii/ Maybe the price on the first gen will go down? quote:
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net work error posted:https://www.elektron.se/octatrack-mkii/ It'll be a great time to scour B/S/T on Muff's to get a MK1 cheap as chips.
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Trier posted:Hello. I'm saving up for a synth and doing some research in advance so I know exactly how much I need to save up. Are we still all recommending the Arturia minibrute for a starter synth like the OP says? Much has been released since that OP. There are more than a few great offers in the 500 dollar range now. It depends what you're after. Any particular sound design or performance goals?
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sliderule posted:Much has been released since that OP. There are more than a few great offers in the 500 dollar range now. It depends what you're after. Any particular sound design or performance goals? I don't really know anything about sound design yet, but I'm the learn-by-doing kind of guy so I'm mostly looking for something that lets me experiment and practice on while I learn everything I need to learn. So, I guess something versatile and intuitive would be my best answer to this question that I clearly don't understand well enough to give a real answer to.
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Korg Minilogue is the light.
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What color Monologue pairs best with the Minilogue? Is it gold or is it blue?
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Trier posted:I don't really know anything about sound design yet, but I'm the learn-by-doing kind of guy so I'm mostly looking for something that lets me experiment and practice on while I learn everything I need to learn. So, I guess something versatile and intuitive would be my best answer to this question that I clearly don't understand well enough to give a real answer to. This might seem obvious, maybe not. I can't tell from your answer; you'll likely need monitors/speakers, or some sort of way of listening to your work, as a lot of these hardware synths just have a few audio out jacks, and no internal speakers. Again, might be obvious, though I don't even know if the one you're being referred to has them. I don't click on links  ... Of things I'll never afford 
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Tayter Swift posted:Korg Minilogue is the light. This is probably the right answer.
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