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A MIRACLE
Sep 17, 2007

All right. It's Saturday night; I have no date, a two-liter bottle of Shasta and my all-Rush mix-tape... Let's rock.

Sagebrush posted:

Excessive bouncing is a sign of insufficient damping, though I don't know how much that's adjustable on your particular bike.

I only have rear preload adjustability. I have it at 5 out of (i think) 9 right now.

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Ola
Jul 19, 2004

A MIRACLE posted:

I only have rear preload adjustability. I have it at 5 out of (i think) 9 right now.

Sagebrush is right, it's not damping enough. You can try taking the preload to either end to see if that makes the bouncing more or less pronounced, but it probably won't make a fundamental difference. Was it better when it was new? If it's worn out, you have a good excuse to go aftermarket. If it isn't, the excuse is less good but still valid. Probably tons of options for it. The only downside is you'll want to do the forks next.

Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
what tools can i use instead of the specialized ones for delinking and installing a chain. I do my work at my local auto mechanic and have access to a very robust toolbox

builds character
Jan 16, 2008

Keep at it.

A MIRACLE posted:

I only have rear preload adjustability. I have it at 5 out of (i think) 9 right now.

The real fix is respringing the bike. Sorry.

A MIRACLE
Sep 17, 2007

All right. It's Saturday night; I have no date, a two-liter bottle of Shasta and my all-Rush mix-tape... Let's rock.

builds character posted:

The real fix is respringing the bike. Sorry.

What's that? I should just get a Street Triple? Sorry my ears aren't so good.

builds character
Jan 16, 2008

Keep at it.

A MIRACLE posted:

What's that? I should just get a Street Triple? Sorry my ears aren't so good.

Seems like they're working just fine.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Fauxtool posted:

what tools can i use instead of the specialized ones for delinking and installing a chain. I do my work at my local auto mechanic and have access to a very robust toolbox
You need something that can put out enough pressure to force the chain pins out (and back in) and flare the tips. But really, just go buy a $20 chain breaker/riveter. It's not worth the headache trying to bubba it with the wrong tools.

https://www.amazon.com/ABN-Chain-Breaker-Cutter-Riveting/dp/B01EO17L02

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVUYc1B9wLI

tjones
May 13, 2005
Don't break the chain with the tool, use an angle grinder or Dremel to grind down the rivets.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

The video demonstrates that, but you still need a way to push the pin out after you've ground the tip off.

Getting an old chain off without a breaker isn't hard. Worst case you can just cut right through one of the plates. It's installing a new one that's a pain in the rear end without proper tools.

nsaP
May 4, 2004

alright?
Yeah f the rivets, just grind a link apart

FeculentWizardTits
Aug 31, 2001

babyeatingpsychopath posted:

You should probably also check whatever cable routing is causing the speedo cable to have tension on it, unplugging it. There shouldn't be any force in that direction on the cable, which is why the mechanism to hold it in place is wimpy.

I just took it in for one of its regular service intervals (though not, unfortunately, at the dealer I got it from). With your point in mind, I asked the mechanic about exactly how much slack the cable usually has when they take apart the instrument cluster. He said "some", which is more than the "none" it has now. When I get it back, I'm going to do some digging and figure out if it's wrapped around something it shouldn't be.

GnarlyCharlie4u
Sep 23, 2007

I have an unhealthy obsession with motorcycles.

Proof

Fauxtool posted:

what tools can i use instead of the specialized ones for delinking and installing a chain. I do my work at my local auto mechanic and have access to a very robust toolbox
Under no circumstances should you ever get the MotionPro tool that thing is a piece of poo poo and I think it's made from zinc.
Get the RK chain tool. It rules. That or the D.I.D. one.

nsaP posted:

Yeah f the rivets, just grind a link apart

air tools make short work of this but it's sorta messy. I have a tool that's broken probably 50 chains and it still looks brand new and I still prefer to just cut through the plates because it takes like 15 seconds.

Jazzzzz
May 16, 2002
I have the RK chain tool and I still get out the angle grinder to remove chains because who doesn't like cutting poo poo with angle grinders

Deeters
Aug 21, 2007


I'm trying to find the oil filter o-rings for my DRZ online in bulk. ThumperTalk says they are 1.9t x13 ID mm and 2.4 x 52.6. I haven't found them on McMaster or Fastenal, so where else can I check?

nullscan
May 28, 2004

TO BE A BOSS YOU MUST HAVE HONOR! HONOR AND A PENIS!

What the hell is wrong with my hands?

Up to recently I was riding a Hyosung 650 and I never had hand cramps. But I just upgraded to a Yamaha MT-10 SP (sweetest naked ever) and it seems like I wind up with carpal like symptoms that persist for after a week or so. Numbness in fingers, soreness in thumb joint and pad, etc.

I don't seem to be putting my weight on the bars, I've loosened clutch and brake to the lightest settings, but I'm still miserable. Do I just need to swap out with aftermarket adjustable levers? Help, I love this bike so much but it's getting bad enough that I avoided a group ride this weekend because of pain from the weekend before!

Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
are your hands cold? Cold hands really accelerate fatigue

Fauxtool fucked around with this message at 10:10 on Jun 24, 2017

nullscan
May 28, 2004

TO BE A BOSS YOU MUST HAVE HONOR! HONOR AND A PENIS!

I don't think so, I'm in Korea and we're in the middle of monsoon season so it's humid and lovely in general. I am riding with perforated gloves but I've never felt like they were cold.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Different grip angle that doesn't agree with your hands?

Shimrod
Apr 15, 2007

race tires on road are a great idea, ask me!

Stock grips don't feel slippery to you do they? I've been getting slightly cramped hands lately because my stock grips on my VTR are wearing down and feel slippery now, I'll be changing them soon. Used to get it on my zx10 as well before I replaced those grips.

Never had it on my KTM which has nice grippy grips. I can totally relax my hands and barely need to hold on with good grips, but with old/lovely grips I feel I need to hold on a bit tighter.

tjones
May 13, 2005
The lever angle hasn't changed has it? You could try going to a pillow top grip if the one you have on there now is a harder compound to see if it's possibly vibration or you white knuckling the actual grip and not realizing it (not the same as leaning into the bars / putting weight on your arms).

GabbiLB
Jul 14, 2004

~toot~
I know you say that you don't seem to be putting weight on the bars, but you just upgraded to something 3x more powerful than what you were used to riding. I still occasionally find myself gripping too hard when I'm hustling the Tuono and start to cramp up.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Can you angle the levers up or down at all? I've found that hand cramps in my case were caused by having my wrists bent while pulling the levers. If you rotate them so that in a normal riding position your wrist and hand are in a straight line (in my case this means turning the levers down towards the ground a bit) it may help.

FeculentWizardTits
Aug 31, 2001

Communist Walrus posted:

babyeatingpsychopath posted:

You should probably also check whatever cable routing is causing the speedo cable to have tension on it, unplugging it. There shouldn't be any force in that direction on the cable, which is why the mechanism to hold it in place is wimpy.
I just took it in for one of its regular service intervals (though not, unfortunately, at the dealer I got it from). With your point in mind, I asked the mechanic about exactly how much slack the cable usually has when they take apart the instrument cluster. He said "some", which is more than the "none" it has now. When I get it back, I'm going to do some digging and figure out if it's wrapped around something it shouldn't be.

To follow up on this, I just got done reassembling it after taking off the glove box and poking around the innards. I wasn't able to find anything glaringly obvious that was putting tension on it, save for a clip that it shared with another wire. I removed the speedo cable from the clip, which provided an extra inch or two of slack. The clip in question was maybe six or seven inches below the instrument cluster, so I'm halfway certain that the loose speedo cable isn't going to interfere with anything (as in, there's no moving parts up there). I think the o ring that was on end of the speedo cable is supposed to fulfill the function that another poster suggested using rubber bands for earlier (i.e. keeping the prongs on the end of the cable from being able to press inwards), so I moved that back into place once I reattached the cable and added a zip tie below the o ring to give it something else to hold it in place. The speedometer and odometer are working again, but exactly how long it'll last remains to be seen.

Schroeder91
Jul 5, 2007

Jazzzzz posted:

I have the RK chain tool and I still get out the angle grinder to remove chains because who doesn't like cutting poo poo with angle grinders

This confirms I need an angle grinder. Thanks

kloa
Feb 14, 2007


Are there any websites that sell larger LED integrated tail lights that aren't cheap plastic?

I'm trying to find something larger for my XS650, and all of the tiny LED ones for sportbikes don't really fit the bill. Maybe I just need to go back to a large stop light, and put back separate turn signals :sigh:

M42
Nov 12, 2012


What the gently caress? I went to rebuild my master cylinder and the replacement piston part just... got completely stuck inside the bore. Like 100% stuck. There's no way it'll come out without damage. It's the correct part and everything. Anyone had this happen before?

M42 fucked around with this message at 00:48 on Jun 25, 2017

Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Whats the deal with Bimota in the US? Do they even have a dealer network? The italian bike shops near me in california have a few from 2006 but none of the new models.

nsaP
May 4, 2004

alright?
Skip past the nonsense and just head to a sadomasochism conference.

Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
no loving way would i buy one but I still want to admire it in person

tjones
May 13, 2005

M42 posted:

What the gently caress? I went to rebuild my master cylinder and the replacement cylinder/gasket bit just... got completely stuck inside the bore. Like 100% stuck. There's no way it'll come out without damage. It's the correct part and everything. Anyone had this happen before?

Are you talking about the rubber boot that covers the cylinder or one of the actual seals that sits on the piston itself? Do you have a pick or pair of hemostats that you could try to gently pry at the side or push from the opposite end of the cylinder to see if the cylinder has a recessed channel that the end of the seal sits/locks into?

Try to coat everything in a light film of brake fluid to help lube everything if you haven't already. Did you inspect the inside of the cylinder wall for any non-smooth bits that might be catching a piece of seal/boot? Once you do get it back off I would double check that to make sure the cylinder itself isn't bad.


If you don't have them already, I recommend a set of mechanic picks. A dental pick/scaler can work in a pinch if you have one of those as long as you are careful with the pointy end.

tjones
May 13, 2005

Fauxtool posted:

no loving way would i buy one but I still want to admire it in person

Barber's museum had one (maybe two?) on display last time I went.


EDIT: No clue what year they were. I'll see if I can dig around and find my pictures.

tjones fucked around with this message at 00:56 on Jun 25, 2017

M42
Nov 12, 2012


It's the whole piston. The rebuild kit comes with a new one with the gaskets attached. Pretty sure there was like a piece of grit or something that jammed in there... only thing that makes sense. No space between the piston and bore wall to dig it out. Rip MC, i guess. Good thing it's a dime a dozen r6 one.

tjones
May 13, 2005
Do you have access to compressed air? Do you think you could blow the piston back out from where the hose attaches to the side of the cylinder?

I take it the spring is already in place? Does the cylinder piston match the old one that came out? Everything was lubricated before going back in?

Besides one of the seals working loose or twisting when the piston was placed, I'm at a loss at what would cause it besides maybe debris of some sort like you suggested.

tjones fucked around with this message at 01:27 on Jun 25, 2017

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

To me it sounds like one of the seal lips has folded over and jammed everything up. You did lube everything right?

M42
Nov 12, 2012


Of course. Like the last three times I rebuilt an MC, I just coat everything in brake fluid and it reassembles no problem. I was thinking it was probably a torn/folded seal as well... oh well. Got a new MC coming in the mail now.

dumb.
Apr 11, 2014

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dumb. posted:

Any suggestions for getting stains out of paint?

My tank is white and there are a few dark stains right near where the faring butts up to it.

I'm thinking the PO serviced it, got some kind of fluid on there, then didn't wipe it off so it set right in.

Soap & water do nothing, and I'm scared I'll gently caress up the finish if I experiment with stronger chemicals.

(sorry no pics, I'm away from home a few days)

Progress update (for anyone with the same dilemma): clay bars are magical!

A few squirts of wash 'n wax and 5 mins rubbing with a chunk of clay went from this:



to this:



:allears:

babyeatingpsychopath
Oct 28, 2000
Forum Veteran


M42 posted:

Of course. Like the last three times I rebuilt an MC, I just coat everything in brake fluid and it reassembles no problem. I was thinking it was probably a torn/folded seal as well... oh well. Got a new MC coming in the mail now.

If you've got a grease gun, you can push the thing out with grease. I know you've got a new one coming in the mail, but it'd still be interesting to see what the failure mode was.

Tenchrono
Jun 2, 2011


Anyone have any tips for making plastics "pop" again? Ive got some black fairing bits on my F4i that have gone from shiny black to matte black and I'd like to restore them. Also any tips for getting light scratches out of regular fairings?

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

If the plastics are unpainted, wet-sand with the following grades of sandpaper in sequence:

220
320
400
600
800
1200
1500
2000
4000

starting with whichever one produces scratches on the same scale as the largest scratch you're trying to remove.

At 4000 grit, swap to a polishing compound, and you'll have a gloss finish again.

There isn't really a quicker/easier way to do it properly.

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dumb.
Apr 11, 2014

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FAT CURES MUSCLES posted:

Anyone have any tips for making plastics "pop" again? Ive got some black fairing bits on my F4i that have gone from shiny black to matte black and I'd like to restore them. Also any tips for getting light scratches out of regular fairings?

The non-painted black parts on my CB300 were all dried and gray looking, rubbed some of this on and it worked wonders

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