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His name was Combofiend.
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Wanderer posted:I guarantee you don't. The entire objection here is rooted in an assumption: that a theoretical casual player of Marvel will stick with a character even when he or she kinda stinks, because they're buying the game specifically to play as that character, and that nobody ever branches out to the rest of the cast. That'd be a stupid assumption to make in a 1v1 game, let alone a team game.
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Jun 25, 2017 21:07
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i can hear the pocket protector in this guys posts
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Jun 25, 2017 21:15
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Reiley posted:His name was Combofiend. Peter Rosas is his slave name
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Jun 25, 2017 21:15
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the more likely scenario is that people will just stick with Marvel 3. you know, the game that actually has the characters they like rather than other characters that fulfill a similar function also I can't really trust any assumption of the guy that thinks Magneto has a rekka
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Jun 25, 2017 21:17
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mvc3 doesn't have *looks at roster* Gamorrah or something
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Jun 25, 2017 21:19
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Race Realists posted:without looking, what hilarious dbfz video is this? It's not. It's funny.
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Jun 25, 2017 21:22
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CharlestonJew posted:the more likely scenario is that people will just stick with Marvel 3. you know, the game that actually has the characters they like rather than other characters that fulfill a similar function Nah, people will play MvC:I because it's the new game. The only way it gets dropped is if Capcom drops its support for the scene or if the meta evolves into something unbearable (and even then it has to be cross jab levels of idiotic).
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Jun 25, 2017 21:23
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Reiley posted:His name was Combofiend. He's dropped the combo and now he's just a fiend.
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Dias posted:Nah, people will play MvC:I because it's the new game. The only way it gets dropped is if Capcom drops its support for the scene or if the meta evolves into something unbearable (and even then it has to be cross jab levels of idiotic). I guess you're right, the pro players will stick to it but I'm not sure about the regular folks who make up the bulk of fighting game sales Also with the gems system I wouldn't be surprised if the meta evolves into some real bs
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CharlestonJew posted:also I can't really trust any assumption of the guy that thinks Magneto has a rekka Iron Man has a stronger rushdown game in this one, including a rekka, because theoretically they're trying to get him to appeal to guys who played Magneto in MVC3. I did not say Magneto had a rekka, or that casuals would know what the gently caress it was. You guys are so recreationally salty over this game that you aren't actually reading posts. Dias posted:Nah, people will play MvC:I because it's the new game. The only way it gets dropped is if Capcom drops its support for the scene or if the meta evolves into something unbearable (and even then it has to be cross jab levels of idiotic). Yeah, DBFZ is too far out to pose an immediate threat to MVC:I. I'm sure that it'll blow up the world when it comes out, but they were saying at E3 that DBZF is 20% done. I wouldn't be surprised to see it slide to 2019, or ship with a relatively limited roster at first. Endorph posted:okay you're right, people don't know who the x-men are, that's why the most recent x-men movie made more money than several of the movies that are represented in this game Which ones? A casual Google says Logan made $660 million or so, which is well below every MCU movie besides the second Thor. Besides, still not the point I'm making. Character loyalty's important with licensed games, but it's not the only concern, especially with a team-based fighting game that encourages people to branch out.
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CharlestonJew posted:I guess you're right, the pro players will stick to it but I'm not sure about the regular folks who make up the bulk of fighting game sales Eh, people will still buy MvC:I and there's gonna be more people playing it online than playing the old game or basically anything else, really. It's just what happens with Capcom. Now, I'm not sure if people will KEEP playing it after the first tournament cycle is over, but people don't really go back to older games anymore.
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Wanderer posted:Iron Man has a stronger rushdown game in this one, including a rekka, because theoretically they're trying to get him to appeal to guys who played Magneto in MVC3. I did not say Magneto had a rekka, or that casuals would know what the gently caress it was. You guys are so recreationally salty over this game that you aren't actually reading posts. cant you guys just let him win the argument so he stops posting
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Wanderer posted:Dunning-Kruger rears its ugly head again. Nice going, champ. The casual audience does not play capcom games E: i'll make this easier for you. You are talking about an audience for capcom games that doesn't exist anymore. Capcom burned the casual audience good will over the years. UMVC3 was the first one to do this, being released so closely to the original MVC3 that many people felt burned by buying the original (look up the sales). SFxT also sold poorly and they blamed it on there being way too many fighting games, but MK/Injustice/Tekken were still doing well. By the time SF5 releases and they drop the ball for a third time, the casual audience (and the enthusiast scene to a certain extent) give a huge backlash and just don't even buy that game at all. So I'm not really sure you know what the gently caress you're talking about since the casual audience is extremely put off Capcom by this point. The casual audience is looking at Injustice 2, Tekken 7 and now the new DBZ fighting game. Capcom is reaching for an audience that doesn't give a gently caress anymore. The REAL Goobusters fucked around with this message at 21:57 on Jun 25, 2017 |
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The Right Honourable the Lord Spiritual and Temporal of Her Majesty's Most Honourable Public Relations appointed for the consideration of all matters relating to Function, Peter Rosas.
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Zand posted:cant you guys just let him win the argument so he stops posting
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definiately gonna play the rekka
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Why would a casual fan who is buying the Marvel vs Capcom game for the characters they're familiar with play anything other than the characters they're familiar with when they're gonna drop the game in like a week at best? Especially, children. Also, why would you tell X-Men fans their characters only served functions to the people who played them when the X-Men are some of the most beloved characters in Marvel history and a significant portion of your playerbase are people who grew up with those characters in multiple different mediums and there are now kids out there experiencing them in different ways too. Like why does it matter that Avengers sold 1.4 billion dollars at the box office in the most recent movie? You are still excluding a lot of other people because you refuse to spare some residency on the character roster to appeal to these people and instead appeal to people who are already being appealed to?
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Captain Baal posted:Like why does it matter that Avengers sold 1.4 billion dollars at the box office in the most recent movie? let me tell you about a little group called disney, who rewrote copyright law just so their source of easy income is never at risk
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It's just spin. It sounds dumb because it's Capcom USA trying to do PR under JPN's restrictions and whatever Marvel wants. They can't go and say "you're not getting mutants because Marvel" since Marvel is footing part of the bill, so it just starts this backwards rationalization process - which isn't even alternative truths, it just sounds stupid because they're trying to make it sound like a good thing instead of "the best we could have done". If Combofiend had come out and said, "look, we won't have mutants unfortunately, but we're trying to keep the character's gameplay intact on new characters", the reaction would've been a lot better than "who even cares, they're just archetypes".
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Jun 25, 2017 22:19
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mr rosas, OBE, would know that better than you, cur
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after release is combofiend going to quit and make a budget smash clone
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I like watching youtuber Lythero. He uses popular high tier characters like Viewtiful Joe, Phoenix Wright and Dante
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Zand posted:after release is combofiend going to quit and make a budget smash clone what wacky twist will he include that ruins the gameplay and/or will it be pixel art furies so no one pays attention to ti?
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NecroMonster posted:what wacky twist will he include that ruins the gameplay No one has HP but the first to build 5 meters wins
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Actually that's basically how Sony All Stars worked anyway.
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Like I know it's spin and poo poo, but I feel at some point logic would dictate "Oh hey, X-Men has a large fanbase, we will make more money with X-Men characters in our game!" instead of "We don't want X-Men in our game because they're not our movies so make up an excuse that isn't that" is a better approach to take, but I'm also not the guys making 1.4 Billion dollars off of one movie, so clearly I'm in the wrong here. I guess the really good way to handle your roster that MVC3 took was in fact the incorrect way to do it.ThisIsACoolGuy posted:I like watching youtuber Lythero. He uses popular high tier characters like Viewtiful Joe, Phoenix Wright and Dante I have seen people legit mad that Dante was one of the top tier characters in MVC3 even though he is actually one of the more effort based top tier characters in that game and has a really wacky mechanic to doing his poo poo.
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Captain Baal posted:Like I know it's spin and poo poo, but I feel at some point logic would dictate "Oh hey, X-Men has a large fanbase, we will make more money with X-Men characters in our game!" instead of "We don't want X-Men in our game because they're not our movies so make up an excuse that isn't that" is a better approach to take, but I'm also not the guys making 1.4 Billion dollars off of one movie, so clearly I'm in the wrong here. It's part of a long-term strategy to shift focus in the movies to a new set of characters, probably based on the assumption that general audiences will only stay interested in stories about the same group of X-Men for so long, and the MCU franchises will ultimately stay healthier longer if stuff like Guardians keeps getting introduced while older characters are retired. Probably underrating the extent to which people give a poo poo about the 90s X-Men characters, but GOTG and Dr. Strange and stuff seem to be doing fine anyway.
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Captain Baal posted:Like I know it's spin and poo poo, but I feel at some point logic would dictate "Oh hey, X-Men has a large fanbase, we will make more money with X-Men characters in our game!" instead of "We don't want X-Men in our game because they're not our movies so make up an excuse that isn't that" is a better approach to take, but I'm also not the guys making 1.4 Billion dollars off of one movie, so clearly I'm in the wrong here. I guess the really good way to handle your roster that MVC3 took was in fact the incorrect way to do it. Big companies are WAY too attached to their business plans and spiteful as gently caress. They probably see Infinite as just another quick cashgrab, and promoting X-Men stuff as a bigger "risk" than losing...let's say 500k sales because there are no X-Men. I mean, you can see the game is budget as gently caress with all the asset reusage, 90% of the roster being ripped off UMVC3 and just general UI stuff. I think it's stupid, but in the end the PR bullshit is just that, bullshit. We knew how this poo poo was gonna go from the moment of its announcement, unfortunately.
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If anything I can't say I'm surprised so much as disappointed it went exactly as expected
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Brosnan posted:It's part of a long-term strategy to shift focus in the movies to a new set of characters, probably based on the assumption that general audiences will only stay interested in stories about the same group of X-Men for so long, and the MCU franchises will ultimately stay healthier longer if stuff like Guardians keeps getting introduced while older characters are retired. calling it now: black panther's lvl3 super will be some Weapon X ripoff, complete with weird scream sound effect
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Capcoms long term strategy to shift focus from their games to arcsys and namco
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If capcom hits their sales targets for the year, the whole company explodes!
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Zelder posted:If capcom hits their sales targets for the year, the whole company explodes!  NOOOOOOOO
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIpibaXQm8I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-or-POWn14c
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I'm kinda shocked a little that Justin Wong is younger than me, but then again he was known as "the new kid" when MvC2 debuted....
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I just thought about it and Chris Redfield should be partnered with Rocket instead of Dante because he has guns and is from Raccoon City.
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Jun 30, 2017 07:34
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Reiley posted:I just thought about it and Chris Redfield should be partnered with Rocket instead of Dante because he has guns and is from Raccoon City. They literally made jokes mentioning just that in umvc3
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https://video.twimg.com/tweet_video/DEcVLhsU0AAjgM1.mp4 I don't know what the thinking emoji command is but pretend I posted it here.
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fadam posted:https://video.twimg.com/tweet_video/DEcVLhsU0AAjgM1.mp4 
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