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Dapper_Swindler posted:yeah. plus the entire idea(theoretically) goes against cult thinking.
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Kjoery posted:on the other hand, the sketpics have proven themselves time and time again to embody the exact opposite of what they claim to be (at least when it comes to political stuff; can't speak on their videos re: religion or science) thats why i added theoretically. it sucks.
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http://twitter.com/gogreen18/status/872907439489798144 http://twitter.com/gogreen18/status/873397990056108032 http://twitter.com/gogreen18/status/873236096561303553 You'd think people you look up to calling you an idiot would make you do some self-examination.
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^^^ As another poster mentioned, Green comes off as genuinely kinda dumb in the sort of way teenagers are dumb. How old is she? I could see this sort of thing being excusable for someone under the age of 23 or so.khwarezm posted:I don't know about that, sometimes people mention Gal Gadot's lovely Israeli nationalism, but the idea that the problem with Wonder Woman is to do with the 'Woke Brands' fakeness? I just don't see that expressed, most criticism is aimed at a perceived lack of quality rather than being perniciously milquetoast Liberal in such a way as to undermine leftism. The very fact that its a Hollywood blockbuster makes it an intrinsically Capitalist product, but then so is Star Wars, and the Fast the Furious, and the Marvel franchises, and Batman and so many other things. When I talk about these things among friends that's just an understood part of engaging with such a product. And those same Liberals also loved Mad Max, but again, you don't see as much critique of that. Yeah, I forgot about the issue with Gadot, though there's kinda a separate argument there as to whether it makes sense to critique the movie on an artistic level on the basis of an actor being a bad person*. I could definitely be off-base about the nature of the criticism here, though I still think it's true that leftists have a tendency to view something more critically if it has significant vocal support among liberals. And, as I mentioned in my previous post, this isn't necessarily a bad thing (I'm a leftist who does this to some degree), as long as people ensure the resulting criticism is still valid. *I would argue that it kinda depends upon the specific nature of the actor's moral failings and the nature of the movie they're acting in; as an extreme example, having a Nazi act as a liberator in a movie with general oppression/genocide themes would be hosed up enough to impact the message of the movie itself. So I guess the situation with Gadot is actually kinda similar to this. Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 22:12 on Jun 25, 2017 |
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Ytlaya posted:^^^ As another poster mentioned, Green comes off as genuinely kinda dumb in the sort of way teenagers are dumb. How old is she? I could see this sort of thing being excusable for someone under the age of 23 or so. She's 27 and about to enroll in a Ph. D. program, I believe.
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Huzanko posted:You'd think people you look up to calling you an idiot would make you do some self-examination. i mean really, she outright said that the reason why she "left" is because she was sick of being criticized https://twitter.com/gogreen18/status/877317852629417984 psh, crticism. typical of leftist hugbox safespaces
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business hammocks posted:Twitter is just UGH. I hope the rest of the superteam eventually migrates over to SA's web 1.0 wonderland where we'd never dogpile-insult them for an out-of-context photo or lump them in with Laci Green. Lets be honest here, we'd just dogpile them for even more non-sequitur reasons like we have done in the past. Being a popular content creator and being open about it on SA sucks.
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MiddleOne posted:Lets be honest here, we'd just dogpile them for even more non-sequitur reasons like we have done in the past. Being a popular content creator and being open about it on SA sucks. Quite a few of them post regularly in the Internet Critic thread in RGD. Hbomb, Dan Olson, the girl who does Baywatching, etc.
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WampaLord posted:Quite a few of them post regularly in the Internet Critic thread in RGD. I could spend this entire page listing people who no longer do specifically because of that thread and its many iterations over the years.
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Huzanko posted:She's 27 and about to enroll in a Ph. D. program, I believe.
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How does sex positivity make you loathe yourself? It's not very difficult. Far less difficult than regressive sex traditionalism.
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WampaLord posted:Quite a few of them post regularly in the Internet Critic thread in RGD. Hbomb, Dan Olson, the girl who does Baywatching, etc. It's usually just one grosso who chases people away ala Kate Beaton. The downfall that content creators face on SA has historically been looking for feedback or praise rather than being resident voices in the thread, or they get drawn into some weird lovely fight. Everyone who posts in the internet critic thread participates in discussion and knows when to stay away. I think the original reason some of them ended up there was to provide insight into how badly the Nostalgia Critic company they used to sell videos to was run. Kyle Kallgren and Phelan also post there. It's a really interesting mix of good discussion and absolute poo poo, depending on whether or not video games come up.
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OwlFancier posted:How does sex positivity make you loathe yourself? And the internet often does things wrong, especially in the comments section. It's a lot easier to go and join the pro team that doesn't even bother to stop you having wrong and harmful opinions and gives you high fives for making any poo poo as long as the target is right. Worse, but easier.
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This legit explains a ton about her. If she's going into psychology let's hope she addresses some of these underlying issues through the mandatory analysis they get. The internet is like the worst thing you can get tied up in if you have underlying poo poo to work through.
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Kokoro Wish posted:You know, I wanted to like Destiny and was perusing his vids, but then he had to go and put one up arguing against a living minimum wage (not that $15 should actually be considered that) and my eyes just glazed the gently caress over. Yeah, that's definitely disappointing. Still, I have to give Destiny credit for probably being the first real life, actual, down the middle, libertarian type person. He actually does seem to be socially liberal and fiscally conservative, and not actually using that term to hide the fact that he's just a bog standard Republican who doesn't want to call himself that. He actually seems to care about race issues in the country and thinks it's actually important to note how history and structural issues play into the problems we have today. That's pretty impressive.
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Mr Interweb posted:Yeah, that's definitely disappointing. Still, I have to give Destiny credit for probably being the first real life, actual, down the middle, libertarian type person. He actually does seem to be socially liberal and fiscally conservative, and not actually using that term to hide the fact that he's just a bog standard Republican who doesn't want to call himself that. He actually seems to care about race issues in the country and thinks it's actually important to note how history and structural issues play into the problems we have today. That's pretty impressive. Destiny is very 'American' for lack of a better term when it comes to economics.
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Guavanaut posted:There is a trend of self criticism within some parts of internet social justice that makes Maoism look liberal. Whatever you do right will piss off someone from one area while not going far enough for others. Done right, it can lead into a constructive dialectic to build better positions and be more intersectional. Done wrong it can lead to callout culture and being told you're a piece of garbage for missing some details about demiromantics out of what is supposed to be sex ed for the general population. I guess I'm a sufficiently inherent knobhead to be able to tone that out a little.
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business hammocks posted:This legit explains a ton about her. If she's going into psychology let's hope she addresses some of these underlying issues through the mandatory analysis they get. The internet is like the worst thing you can get tied up in if you have underlying poo poo to work through.
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aware of dog posted:Israel had mandatory military service People refuse to serve in immoral armies all the time, you know. In the US, people resisted the Draft. Choosing to just go along and be part of the machine of oppression is a choice on which you can be judged. Maybe not as harshly as straight up volunteering, but judged nonetheless.
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Guavanaut posted:There is a trend of self criticism within some parts of internet social justice that makes Maoism look liberal. Whatever you do right will piss off someone from one area while not going far enough for others. Done right, it can lead into a constructive dialectic to build better positions and be more intersectional. Done wrong it can lead to callout culture and being told you're a piece of garbage for missing some details about demiromantics out of what is supposed to be sex ed for the general population. circular_firing_squad.txt
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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OwlFancier posted:How does sex positivity make you loathe yourself? Sex+ was the title of her YouTube show.
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Huzanko posted:You'd think people you look up to calling you an idiot would make you do some self-examination. It's like Walt Disney calling you an rear end in a top hat
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:It's like Walt Disney calling you an rear end in a top hat Probably a good thing?
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Yeah, more like Mr. Rogers saying that he's disappointed in you.
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Huzanko posted:You'd think people you look up to calling you an idiot would make you do some self-examination. Ah the old appeal to authority fallacy!
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Just want to note:SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:It's like Walt Disney calling you an rear end in a top hat I'm fairly certain this is a reference. It was from an hbomberguy video about Jordan Owen who said the quote here.
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NikkolasKing posted:Just want to note: It makes sense that it would upset him if Walt Disney didn't like him. "But Walt, I only wanted to realize the dream of a white homeland! Don't call me a jew! Nooooooo!"
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Kjoery posted:Not sure if this gem has been posted, but one skeptic posted a pretty incredibly terrible review of Fury Road, while we're on the topic. It seems like the more anime a skeptic is, the more thin-skinned and prone to projection they become: That guy is a loving scumbag even compared to the average anime nazi or alt-right youtuber.
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Dmitri-9 posted:That guy is a loving scumbag even compared to the average anime nazi or alt-right youtuber. yeah. also i feel like he has never even seen any of the other mad max films. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4BZtFgtCuHUt0p8J-XENiA/videos yeah. most of its dumb poo poo. really doesnt like korra.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:yeah. also i feel like he has never even seen any of the other mad max films. quote:Legend of Whorra: Reniggings loving Christ.
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I remember something about someone on the left physically in person threatening to beat Laci Green up because they thought she was a TERF? If true that probably hosed with her head
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I think it mostly demonstrates that the basis upon which she holds a given ideal is whether she is given positive affirmation, rather than personally-held principles or ideas arrived to through informed reason. "Some leftists are mean and misguided, so now I believe in fascism!" It's even worse if the reason is that it's profitable to be a "redeemed convert" as a convenient propaganda shield. It's like when Glenn Beck was temporarily anti-Trump, getting asspat headlines about how "even Glenn Beck is against this!" which got him lots of attention to his failing media empire.
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Dmitri-9 posted:That guy is a loving scumbag even compared to the average anime nazi or alt-right youtuber. Lightning Lord posted:I remember something about someone on the left physically in person threatening to beat Laci Green up because they thought she was a TERF? If true that probably hosed with her head crime weed fucked around with this message at 06:01 on Jun 26, 2017 |
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Neeksy posted:I think it mostly demonstrates that the basis upon which she holds a given ideal is whether she is given positive affirmation, rather than personally-held principles or ideas arrived to through informed reason. I can't believe Samantha Bee fell for that bullshit conversion.
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That was the moment when I realized her show would not improve because she was doing the same thing the NYT does.
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Kjoery posted:The Little White Cuck Ball every time people say this i think of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFfLCuHSZ-U&t=33s
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