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Gatekeeper
Aug 3, 2003

He was warrior and mystic, ogre and saint, the fox and the innocent, chivalrous, ruthless, less than a god, more than a man.

Sucrose posted:

I just learned that all uses of the word "check" (including "cheque") in the English language are derived from the chess term of checking your opponent's king, and the word "check" itself is simply derived from the word "chess." Mind blown.

Holy poo poo


cyberia posted:

I'm pretty sure this is a recent made-up term rather than some ~official~ dictionary-listed word and I hate it. It sounds so stupid, argh.


I think that's the case with a group of pugs being called a grumble of pugs (like a murder of crows) but it gets a pass from me because it's so perfect and cute

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Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

Every group of animals is a group. The fancy names are just for fun.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

JoelJoel posted:

Every group of animals is a group. The fancy names are just for fun.

Yeah but a BIG group close together is a swarm.

Strudel Man
May 19, 2003
ROME DID NOT HAVE ROBOTS, FUCKWIT

Sucrose posted:

I just learned that all uses of the word "check" (including "cheque") in the English language are derived from the chess term of checking your opponent's king, and the word "check" itself is simply derived from the word "chess." Mind blown.
Which itself comes from the Persian "Shah," after a long sojourn through arabic, latin and old french. It's one of my favorite etymologies.

LITERALLY A BIRD
Sep 27, 2008

I knew you were trouble
when you flew in

JacquelineDempsey posted:

Fun side note: when I used to be soundguy for a music venue, one of our regular (and very popular) acts was a group from Scunthorpe. My boss, who handled promotion, was always frustrated by sending out press releases to local papers and tv/radio stations via email or online submission forms, only to have them bounced back by bots for containing "vulgar language".

fake edit: huh, seems like we weren't the only one with that issue:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scunthorpe_problem

There's some interesting examples in that article. Maybe the Stuff I Just Figured Out is that I never got a call on some job applications because putting Magna Cum Laude on my resume got it tossed for potentially being a :gizz: reference!

quote:

The word "rear end" may be replaced by "butt", resulting in "clbuttic" for "classic" and "buttbuttinate" for "assassinate".[29]

:laffo:

I'm a child.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



quote:

In February 2004, in Scotland, Craig Cockburn reported that he was unable to use his surname (pronounced "Coburn") with Hotmail. Separately he had problems with his workplace email because of the name of a pharmaceutical, that was often the subject line used on spam or scam emails, being cialis, occurring within his job title of software specialist. He was told by Hotmail to spell his name C0ckburn (with a zero instead of the letter "o"); Hotmail later reversed the ban.[5] In 2010 he had a similar problem registering on the BBC site where again the first four characters of his surname caused a problem for the content filter.[6]

:thumbsup:

Philippe
Aug 9, 2013

(she/her)

Gatekeeper posted:

I think that's the case with a group of pugs being called a grumble of pugs (like a murder of crows) but it gets a pass from me because it's so perfect and cute

A group of baboons is called a flange.

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe
Fun fact: one of the best twitter apps is called Flamingo

If you're wondering where some of the funny folks of fyad went

http://i.imgur.com/YFfvDXB.mp4


Google suggests that the collective noun for flamingos is a flamboyance

rydiafan
Mar 17, 2009


What the hell is a Twitter app? I mean, isn't Twitter the only Twitter app you need?

Edit: I'm old and confused.

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

rydiafan posted:

What the hell is a Twitter app? I mean, isn't Twitter the only Twitter app you need?

Twitter is kind of a garbage app

Hyperlynx
Sep 13, 2015

I don't understand FYAD and I don't understand Twitter. Or Instagram, or Snapchat.

Get off my fuckin' lawn.

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

Hyperlynx posted:

I don't understand FYAD and I don't understand Twitter. Or Instagram, or Snapchat.

Get off my fuckin' lawn.

Considering you are posting on the internet while apparently being baffled by like most of it, maybe you are the one on the wrong lawn

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

JoelJoel posted:

Every group of animals is a group. The fancy names are just for fun.

One of the few fun legacies of the Victorians.

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

Tunicate posted:

One of the few fun legacies of the Victorians.

They have several really. Probably the best is that venereal disease (usually syphilis) can be cured by having sex with a virginal girl. And that girl could of course be sold over and over again so this actually compounds the problem

Next best is probably the secret flower language.

I guess those both involve flowers


e: the flower language was basically 19th century emojis

Strudel Man
May 19, 2003
ROME DID NOT HAVE ROBOTS, FUCKWIT

syscall girl posted:

They have several really. Probably the best is that venereal disease (usually syphilis) can be cured by having sex with a virginal girl. And that girl could of course be sold over and over again so this actually compounds the problem
? That's not really an idea I immediately associate with Victorian England...

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

Strudel Man posted:

? That's not really an idea I immediately associate with Victorian England...

It was a plot point in The Great Train Robbery

All that repression led to unsavory things

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_cleansing_myth

Oddly they have this in common with South Africa during the heyday of HIV/AIDS

Bogan King
Jan 21, 2013

I'm not racist, I'm mates with Bangladesh, the guy who sells me kebabs. No, I don't know his real name.

syscall girl posted:

e: the flower language was basically 19th century emojis

Flower language was their version of hanky code.

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

Bogan King posted:

Flower language was their version of hanky code.

True

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe
"I'm your huckleberry" meant lets dock our cannons and "you're no daisy" was well, unspeakable.

Hyperlynx
Sep 13, 2015

purple death ray posted:

Considering you are posting on the internet while apparently being baffled by like most of it, maybe you are the one on the wrong lawn

It was supposed to be self-deprecating, dude.

EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013

I didn't so much figure this out as learn it when I mentioned it to a friend. Whenever I'd read people emulating an Irish accent in text they'd write gently caress as "fook" which made no sense to me because those two spellings sound the exact same. Apparently in a huge portion of the English speaking world however look/luck, book/buck, gently caress/fook are pronounced differently though.


e: I feel like I posted this before but according to my previous posts I didn't

Garrand
Dec 28, 2012

Rhino, you did this to me!

EmmyOk posted:

I didn't so much figure this out as learn it when I mentioned it to a friend. Whenever I'd read people emulating an Irish accent in text they'd write gently caress as "fook" which made no sense to me because those two spellings sound the exact same. Apparently in a huge portion of the English speaking world however look/luck, book/buck, gently caress/fook are pronounced differently though.


e: I feel like I posted this before but according to my previous posts I didn't

I'm curious as to where you live that book/buck and all those others sound the same?

e: oh wait are you Irish? I don't know anybody with an Irish accent so I always figured that kind of thing was just a stereotype joke kinda lika Canadians and "aboot"

Garrand has a new favorite as of 00:21 on Jun 26, 2017

Tad Naff
Jul 8, 2004

I told you you'd be sorry buying an emoticon, but no, you were hung over. Well look at you now. It's not catching on at all!
:backtowork:
I remember looking up an Aussie website to clear this up: "don't pronounce the 'a' sound in 'Coke' when in America, because the wait staff won't know what you're talking about". There was no irony in it, just that for some reason we here in America are confused by the "a". Like it's actually there, we just haven't been informed yet.

bewilderment
Nov 22, 2007
man what



Tad Naff posted:

I remember looking up an Aussie website to clear this up: "don't pronounce the 'a' sound in 'Coke' when in America, because the wait staff won't know what you're talking about". There was no irony in it, just that for some reason we here in America are confused by the "a". Like it's actually there, we just haven't been informed yet.

I am Australian and I have no idea what the hell this is supposed to mean, Coke rhymes with smoke and croak.

That said according that online quiz thing the part of Australia I live in has an accent closest to 'standard New York' in the USA so that might explain some things.
Generally speaking the more nasal an Australian sounds, the further from civilisation they grew up.

Helpful hint: The words marry, merry and Mary all sound different too, guys.

Marry and merry are obviously different. An E is not an A. Just like you say "a bow and arrow" not "a bow and errow". The letter A makes a mouth-opening 'ah' sound.

The name 'Mary' stretched out is M-air-y and there you've still got the mouth-opening A sound but it flows into more of an E at the end.

someone awful.
Sep 7, 2007


helpful hint: in different dialects, people pronounce words differently

Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

My molecule scrambler ray will disintegrate your armor with one blow!
It'd be interesting to have a thread where you can hear everyone's accents since all posts must be written in the IPA, but that seems like way too much work in practice :effort:

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



bewilderment posted:

I am Australian and I have no idea what the hell this is supposed to mean, Coke rhymes with smoke and croak.

That said according that online quiz thing the part of Australia I live in has an accent closest to 'standard New York' in the USA so that might explain some things.
Generally speaking the more nasal an Australian sounds, the further from civilisation they grew up.

Helpful hint: The words marry, merry and Mary all sound different too, guys.

Marry and merry are obviously different. An E is not an A. Just like you say "a bow and arrow" not "a bow and errow". The letter A makes a mouth-opening 'ah' sound.

The name 'Mary' stretched out is M-air-y and there you've still got the mouth-opening A sound but it flows into more of an E at the end.

I *think* they may be referring to how "Coca-Cola" is pronounced in some areas in the US south. My grandparents on my dad's side were from Alabama and my grandfather always called it "Coke cola"

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


bewilderment posted:

Helpful hint: The words marry, merry and Mary all sound different too, guys.

Marry and merry are obviously different. An E is not an A. Just like you say "a bow and arrow" not "a bow and errow". The letter A makes a mouth-opening 'ah' sound.

The name 'Mary' stretched out is M-air-y and there you've still got the mouth-opening A sound but it flows into more of an E at the end.

The one that annoys me is Americans writing "make due" because to them "do" and "due" sound the same. It's such an incredibly obvious mistake that that accent just makes you totally blind to.

Olive!
Mar 16, 2015

It's not a ghost, but probably a 'living corpse'. The 'living dead' with a hell of a lot of bloodlust...
Nevermind, I interpreted that wrong

Olive! has a new favorite as of 04:11 on Jun 26, 2017

Sucrose
Dec 9, 2009

bewilderment posted:

Marry and merry are obviously different. An E is not an A. Just like you say "a bow and arrow" not "a bow and errow". The letter A makes a mouth-opening 'ah' sound.

Your advice is useless because in my dialect the 'e' in 'error' is the exact same sound as the 'a' in 'arrow.' So if "errow" was a word, to me it would just be a homophone with "arrow."

MonoAus
Nov 5, 2012

bewilderment posted:

I am Australian and I have no idea what the hell this is supposed to mean, Coke rhymes with smoke and croak.

That said according that online quiz thing the part of Australia I live in has an accent closest to 'standard New York' in the USA so that might explain some things.
Generally speaking the more nasal an Australian sounds, the further from civilisation they grew up.

Helpful hint: The words marry, merry and Mary all sound different too, guys.

Marry and merry are obviously different. An E is not an A. Just like you say "a bow and arrow" not "a bow and errow". The letter A makes a mouth-opening 'ah' sound.

The name 'Mary' stretched out is M-air-y and there you've still got the mouth-opening A sound but it flows into more of an E at the end.

FYI my partner is from one of the nasally parts of Australia and has never ordered a "bottle of cake" so doesn't explain much about wtf that's supposed to mean.

Since we're talking pronunciation, someone needs to start a website for Americans to let them know that Fairy and Ferry are different things.

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011

someone awful. posted:

helpful hint: in different dialects, people pronounce words differently

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

MonoAus posted:

FYI my partner is from one of the nasally parts of Australia and has never ordered a "bottle of cake" so doesn't explain much about wtf that's supposed to mean.

Since we're talking pronunciation, someone needs to start a website for Americans to let them know that Fairy and Ferry are different things.

My favorite parts of Australian culture and relative language are "fanny" from the time Steve Irwin was on Conan O'brien's show


he could have probably gotten away with "straya oval office" but "fanny" was just not okay

And "goon"

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe
America and Australia nearly came to fisticuffs over what a "bum bag" was vs. a "fanny pack"

EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013

Garrand posted:

I'm curious as to where you live that book/buck and all those others sound the same?

e: oh wait are you Irish? I don't know anybody with an Irish accent so I always figured that kind of thing was just a stereotype joke kinda lika Canadians and "aboot"

Though the sterotypes are obviously overblown they come from real aspects of common Irish accents! The other big one is obviously the hard 't' or 'd' sound on words that start with 'th'. For example "this that these and those" are often "dis dat dese and doze" or "threat thimble thistle" are "tret timble and tistle". Naturally some people will pronounce those words correctly and the island has a lot of variation in dialect for such a small population. The hard 'th' is something I'm super aware of but the ook/uck thing really surprised me and I only found out about it because she was making fun of me about "no tanks".

NAG
Jul 13, 2009

"Amiga", the computer name, is Spanish for "female friend".

A sombrero casts shadow (sombra) over your face.

In The Big Lebowski:
DUDE: "It's like Lenin said..."
DONNY: "I'm the walrus."
I only just realised Donny thinks the Dude is talking about Lennon, not Lenin. The joke never made sense to me before.

EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013

NAG posted:

A sombrero casts shadow (sombra) over your face.

Did you google this before posting?

Strudel Man
May 19, 2003
ROME DID NOT HAVE ROBOTS, FUCKWIT

EmmyOk posted:

Did you google this before posting?
Doesn't seem wrong?

quote:

sombrero (n.)
1770, from Spanish sombrero "broad-brimmed hat," originally "umbrella, parasol" (a sense found in English 1590s), from sombra "shade," from Late Latin subumbrare (see somber).

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Strudel Man posted:

Doesn't seem wrong?

Subumbra literally translates to "under shadow."

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Feb 7, 2012

Taking the term "Koopaling" to a whole new level since 2016.
The phrase "call a spade a spade" is not inherently racist.

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