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Primate intelligence was the mistake. This whole planet should be moss.
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If the US went all-in on nuclear overnight and achieved per-capita emissions on par with France it would buy another ~2 years before hitting the magic 2C threshold for global carbon emissions . This is actually quite a bit of time and would be preferable to the status-quo, but underscores the fact that we're definitely going to blow past that threshold sometime in the next 20 years. No matter what the US does individually the future of climate change depends crucially on how China and India develop in the next few decades. This is is why I claim Trump withdrawing from the Paris agreement is the single most-damaging act of his presidency to date. It undermined the already weak effort to co-ordinate an international response to climate change and minimize growth in 3rd world carbon emissions.
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Jun 26, 2017 06:27
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Man, Trump really broke y'all.
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Jun 26, 2017 06:28
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Trabisnikof posted:That or the universe is a bit more blasé about morality than you'd hope. one way to interpret the fermi paradox is that every alien civilization that ever exists eventually becomes ruled by a Donald Trump-like figure and then spectacularly obliterates itself hell, he's probably named Donald Trump in every instance too and that's hilarious
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Jun 26, 2017 06:30
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PhazonLink posted:Sounds like you haven't read about small towns and a local rich family ruling it and making sure the cops dont arrest their angelic angle kid that's isn't a drunk date rapist. How drunk are you?
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Jun 26, 2017 06:30
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business hammocks posted:Primate intelligence was the mistake. This whole planet should be moss. We're basically regressing towards chimps, their society is brutally hierarchical and patriarchal. And they do warfare! Rather we should be bonobos, who resolve disputes by loving and are matriarchal.
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Jun 26, 2017 06:31
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Pellisworth posted:Yeah, unfortunately the public is really uninformed and hysterical about nuclear energy and radiation hazard in general. Globally, except maybe in France. People at work know I'm into nuke tech, especially cold war era stuff and are shocked when I tell them they're always near radiation, if not from external sources it's from themselves. I've even taken an old dp-5 Geiger in and let people try it. To their horror some spots of the concrete floor give off some clicks on its lowest setting. A few think I'm insane when I let them scan a few Vaseline marbles that make the needle bounce. Then the blacklight co.es out and they think I'm making radiation because of the glow SocketWrench fucked around with this message at 06:36 on Jun 26, 2017 |
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Jun 26, 2017 06:31
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Covok posted:Man, Trump really broke y'all.  Yes.
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Jun 26, 2017 06:32
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Covok posted:Man, Trump really broke y'all. I am alive by virtue of the fact that I am not dead.
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Jun 26, 2017 06:32
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Pellisworth posted:We're basically regressing towards chimps, their society is brutally hierarchical and patriarchal. And they do warfare! well in that case unless you've done your part for mankind and banged every member of your immediate family you're a hypocrite and part of the problem and actively dragging humanity down into chimpdom
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Jun 26, 2017 06:36
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Covok posted:Man, Trump really broke y'all. Truth.
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Jun 26, 2017 06:37
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Pittsburgh Lambic posted:well in that case unless you've done your part for mankind and banged every member of your immediate family you're a hypocrite and part of the problem and actively dragging humanity down into chimpdom I'm gay I don't think I'd function well in chimpdom. We're not joking folks, Jane Goodall's books are actually horror novels. Chimp society is basically The Handmaiden's Tale.
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Jun 26, 2017 06:37
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Pellisworth posted:We're basically regressing towards chimps, their society is brutally hierarchical and patriarchal. And they do warfare! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRguZr0xCOc
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Jun 26, 2017 06:39
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WeAreTheRomans posted:They've all probably been done already. Guys like Kim Stanley Robinson use like 20 of them per book Ed: Ok, turns out there's a bunch of variations on it, but you get the general idea. Zero_Grade fucked around with this message at 06:43 on Jun 26, 2017 |
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Jun 26, 2017 06:40
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I don't think I've ever felt so hopeless about the world before this year.
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Jun 26, 2017 07:11
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That's the context of hope.
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Jun 26, 2017 07:13
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Internet Kraken posted:I don't think I've ever felt so hopeless about the world before this year. Drink whiskey sours.
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Jun 26, 2017 07:14
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Mustached Demon posted:Drink whiskey sours. no don't do that, smoke inappropriate amounts of weed, like enough to make people worried about you.
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Jun 26, 2017 07:15
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David Lynch you're drunk go home
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Jun 26, 2017 07:18
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empty whippet box posted:no don't do that, smoke inappropriate amounts of weed, like enough to make people worried about you. Why not both?
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Jun 26, 2017 07:18
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Mustached Demon posted:Why not both? look, sometimes if you're cross-faded you pass out mid-effortpost
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Jun 26, 2017 07:20
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I see WTF Just Happened Today has some competition.
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Jun 26, 2017 07:57
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This is also somewhat off topic but is the explanation that conservatives/republicans have moved so far right over the past ten years that outright fascists managed to start finding a foothold a decent explanation for why there's such a high amount of overt stormfront/altright types out there on the right these days? I miss when the far right used to just mean a bunch religious nuts and/or 'constitutionalist' prepper gun fetishists that were sidelined by the Republican party mainstream. Now there's a bunch of unironic neo-nazis/alt-right thrown in the mix. And they along with the aforementioned religious nuts and preppers have all taken a huge amount of control in the Republican party and turned it a monster that makes the early 2000s Republicans look like moderate center-right neoliberals in comparison. What the hell happened?
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Jun 26, 2017 08:46
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I'm not American or live there so the healthcare debacle doesn't affect me directly, but I read this story this morning. Pretty powerful stuff.  https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/24/opinion/sunday/obamacare-repeal-health-care-bill.html Smol fucked around with this message at 09:08 on Jun 26, 2017 |
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Jun 26, 2017 09:06
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Nocturtle posted:If the US went all-in on nuclear overnight and achieved per-capita emissions on par with France it would buy another ~2 years before hitting the magic 2C threshold for global carbon emissions . This is actually quite a bit of time and would be preferable to the status-quo, but underscores the fact that we're definitely going to blow past that threshold sometime in the next 20 years. No matter what the US does individually the future of climate change depends crucially on how China and India develop in the next few decades. Aren't China going all-in on renewable energy?
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Jun 26, 2017 09:27
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When's the tick tick tick thing meant to happen? Lol if Comey taped trump.
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Jun 26, 2017 11:07
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Internet Kraken posted:I don't think I've ever felt so hopeless about the world before this year. Try not posting in, or reading anything posted in, the Trump thread between midnight and 6 am or so, I find that helps. Also get out and enjoy the outdoors and the company of cool people.
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Jun 26, 2017 11:17
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ShredsYouSay posted:When's the tick tick tick thing meant to happen? Today--this morning if we're lucky. I'm thinking it'll be a big price is right loss horn worth of announcement.
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Jun 26, 2017 11:23
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Fulchrum posted:Aren't China going all-in on renewable energy? God I hope so.
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Jun 26, 2017 11:35
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Kislyak recall scenarios: 1) Before black-bagged by cia 2) Statue being built in his honor (a bowling ball) 3) Gonna get some polonium vodka
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Jun 26, 2017 11:55
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FlamingLiberal posted:These people are the worst at spin, I swear to God My first job getting patient contact hours for grad school was with a young man on the spectrum (who had some other things going) who needed full time assistance. Not necessarily with activities of daily living (stuff like bathing, tooth brushing, etc) but with redirecting. Meaning if he got anything in his head at all, he would do it. You had to just keep him focused on what he was doing, and help him solve problems because he wasn't that bright. he could also stay quiet for about 7 seconds. This guy received social security, but it basically just covered food. It did not pay for his care. That was through medicaid. At one point he got a job washing dishes at a country club. It was a big washing station. If the other caretaker was there with him, it would take him up to 45 minutes just to shape up his dishwashing station. I was, uh, a little more direct with my suggestions and redirecting. He had to be guided on a dish by dish basis. He could wash one dish for 10 minutes if I let him. He couldn't set up one tray of plates to wash while working on another. On top of that, you couldn't leave him alone in a public place. He was a very sweet guy, and he loved to talk, but if he met a girl he'd assume they were dating. If he found a cell phone, he'd hide it in the bathroom to look up porn with. This is what got him fired on a day I wasn't taking care of him. Long story short, this guy cannot function without full time care provided by medicaid, and he physically cannot work. Without 24 hour care, he would get himself killed. but hey he can buy a gun now so there's that
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Jun 26, 2017 12:06
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Internet Kraken posted:I don't think I've ever felt so hopeless about the world before this year. Yeah I was in my early 20's when W took office, 9/11 happened (which I watched pretty up close) and our ensuing disastrous international response....and I never felt quite this bad. I think it's because we've learned so much and we can share information with each other so easily and yet we're regressing in every single way. It's like the very best thing we've come up with in half a century (the internet) immediately enfranchised and empowered the worst of our cohort...from the civically devoid masters of capitalism to the brain dead religious extremists...It just promoted the worst.
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Jun 26, 2017 12:18
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Overwined posted:My friends and I have been talking about this article a bit lately and now seems the perfect time to post it: Really seems like as a race, we're wired to fail.
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Jun 26, 2017 12:30
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TyroneGoldstein posted:Yeah I was in my early 20's when W took office, 9/11 happened (which I watched pretty up close) and our ensuing disastrous international response....and I never felt quite this bad. I think it's because we've learned so much and we can share information with each other so easily and yet we're regressing in every single way. It's like the very best thing we've come up with in half a century (the internet) immediately enfranchised and empowered the worst of our cohort...from the civically devoid masters of capitalism to the brain dead religious extremists...It just promoted the worst. The internet used to be a weird place of sexual fantasy with furries and people that get off on making GBS threads in a diaper. Now it's chock-full of literal nazis and misinformation meant to make you into a Nazi. To think we would view in favor the days of the diaper-fur.
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TyroneGoldstein posted:Yeah I was in my early 20's when W took office, 9/11 happened (which I watched pretty up close) and our ensuing disastrous international response....and I never felt quite this bad. I think it's because we've learned so much and we can share information with each other so easily and yet we're regressing in every single way. It's like the very best thing we've come up with in half a century (the internet) immediately enfranchised and empowered the worst of our cohort...from the civically devoid masters of capitalism to the brain dead religious extremists...It just promoted the worst. I remember back in 1993 or whatever as a kid thinking just how wonderful the computers of tomorrow would be because all of the mundane, bullshit work people had to do would get done quicker and let people have more free time to do cool stuff. Mom and Dad would still get paid the same for their work, but would get to spend less time at work and more time playing with me and being less stressed out. Dad could also finally finish building his ham radio and learn more about acoustics and physics Nooooope. "Woah wait a minute! You can make 5 cogs in 5min instead of 5 cogs in 5 days? Well, better get cracking cause we need to increase our cog output to keep the shareholders happy and stay above the competition because we are now fighting a cold war against company B due to the new efficiency gap! Also, since you're just sitting in front of the computer now instead of standing on the line, we see no reason why you shouldn't be working 10-12 hours a day on average 6 days a week because sitting in a chair all day is practically relaxing"
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Jun 26, 2017 12:37
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Ripoff posted:The internet used to be a weird place of sexual fantasy with furries and people that get off on making GBS threads in a diaper. Now it's chock-full of literal nazis and misinformation meant to make you into a Nazi. I think a huge problem is the olds got on the internet. Back in the early 2000s people 40+ rarely went online for anything. Now grandparents in their 70s use the internet too, and it's only like 10 years later. That and a concerted effort by megarich assholes to flood the internet with authoritarian bullshit using bots. We let them do it for so long unopposed those sources of insanity like Drudge and Infowars have gained a foothold of "legitimacy", especially with the Cheeto Benito garbling out praise to the non "fake news" people like Alex Jones.
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Jun 26, 2017 12:40
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Avalanche posted:I remember back in 1993 or whatever as a kid thinking just how wonderful the computers of tomorrow would be because all of the mundane, bullshit work people had to do would get done quicker and let people have more free time to do cool stuff. Mom and Dad would still get paid the same for their work, but would get to spend less time at work and more time playing with me and being less stressed out. Dad could also finally finish building his ham radio and learn more about acoustics and physics This was actually what Keynes believed as well. People were convinced that as automation and computers ramped up, and productivity increased, you'd have shorter and shorter work weeks with people being more able to pursue, you know, whatever. This was believed well into the 60s. There's a lot of reasons this fell apart. My favorite is the rise of middle management.
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Jun 26, 2017 12:42
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FizFashizzle posted:but hey he can buy a gun now so there's that Not that it sounds like this specific person should have had a gun, but you ARE aware that many disability self-advocacy groups were on the same side as the NRA on that issue, right?
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TyroneGoldstein posted:Yeah I was in my early 20's when W took office, 9/11 happened (which I watched pretty up close) and our ensuing disastrous international response....and I never felt quite this bad. 9/11 someone did to us, this we're doing to ourselves.
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