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1001 Arabian dicks posted:the good ol days loving greyscale.
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Xolve posted:loving greyscale. aka monochrome, aka the guy that killed two sandbox mmos
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Jun 25, 2017 22:02
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1001 Arabian dicks posted:aka monochrome, aka the guy that killed two sandbox mmos Albion always looked like poo poo.
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Jun 25, 2017 22:23
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E Equals MC Hammer posted:I know how to fix EVE. Free elusif and legalise RMT and botting. And add some more walking in stations.
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Jun 26, 2017 00:17
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Rhymenoserous posted:I remember when you could have two JB's in each system and just bounce bridge to bridge all the way down without ever seeing a gate. Why did they take this out? Seems like having vital infrastructure to attack would make for more interesting conflicts.
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Jun 26, 2017 00:18
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Rutibex posted:Why did they take this out? Seems like having vital infrastructure to attack would make for more interesting conflicts. people with no infrastructure cried hard about how it made travel too safe
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Jun 26, 2017 00:21
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Rutibex posted:Why did they take this out? Seems like having vital infrastructure to attack would make for more interesting conflicts. Because apparently paying billions of isk a month in Sov bills isn't enough to justify some sort of home-space advantage. Gwyneth Palpate posted:people with no infrastructure cried hard about how it made travel too safe Clearly they never had the pleasure of fueling the loving things.
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Jun 26, 2017 01:02
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lucifirius posted:Albion always looked like poo poo. it was supposed to be a goonrushable f2p game that released a year ago now it's an esport wannabe moba game with fast travel and you have to buy to play, but if you pvp too much you get sent to the lockout zones where nothing fun ever happens so you gotta walk for 45 minutes just to get back to the action it used to be good, it's trash now
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Jun 26, 2017 01:30
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Xolve posted:Because apparently paying billions of isk a month in Sov bills isn't enough to justify some sort of home-space advantage. well now there's a lot of potential home-space advantage and boy is everyone steamed about it
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Jun 26, 2017 01:55
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:well now there's a lot of potential home-space advantage and boy is everyone steamed about it Is this the same 'everyone' that's clamored about everything else before?
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Jun 26, 2017 03:00
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Xolve posted:Is this the same 'everyone' that's clamored about everything else before? Yes. Everyone who does not or has not held anything is bitching because fozziesov still left sovhavers too strong.
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Jun 26, 2017 03:03
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Xolve posted:Is this the same 'everyone' that's clamored about everything else before? i dunno what this means but i'm using it as a shortcut for "a large quantity of vocal outcry" i can only measure things by the candor of the posting 
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Jun 26, 2017 03:03
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:i dunno what this means but i'm using it as a shortcut for "a large quantity of vocal outcry" What about how many /r/eve threads get spawned on a topic?
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Jun 26, 2017 03:11
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lucifirius posted:What about how many /r/eve threads get spawned on a topic? it's starting to become a little difficult to properly haunt all those threads, there's just too many of them
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Jun 26, 2017 03:13
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REMOVE LOCAL
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Jun 26, 2017 03:27
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OpticalRape posted:REMOVE LOCAL 
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Jun 26, 2017 03:31
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OpticalRape posted:REMOVE LOCAL w-space already exists friend
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Jun 26, 2017 04:06
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orange juche posted:Everyone who does not or has not held anything is bitching because fozziesov still left sovhavers too strong. No, fozziesov has a lot of attacker advantage. It's *citadels* that everyone is bitching about being too strong, because Fortress Delve and anywhere else with keepstars is impossible to invade. Personally I think the two might balance out to be about right -- with citadels attacking sov is kinda meaningless except for hurting pve and the few other sov bonuses. But invading a region with a strong citadel presence will be made much easier by attacking sov -- flipping sov prevents opponents from anchoring replacements and means you can possibly put down better beachheads yourself. And the best way to attack a keepstar is to make the enemy not bother showing up to defend it, like CO2's was. Making them feel thoroughly defeated by flipping sov and winning those battles is a good way to do that. It's like medieval warfare where you have to fight a long siege and starve the defenders into submission. It also means the only wars are wars of territorial conquest, which doesn't sit well with some people.
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Jun 26, 2017 04:33
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I'm just wondering what the invasion wars of the future will look like when each system has 50-200 astrahauses and 5 fortizars.
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Jun 26, 2017 04:45
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Structures having zero upkeep requirements -- which is why they get spammed out like they do -- is a different problem that shouldn't be put in the same bucket as what they do to war. 200 asshouses in a system is dumb whether it's nullsec or Perimiter. Even if they only got 1 reinforcement that'd still be mega lame to grind through. A pos with no fuel is trivial to kill. the asshouse of a player who quit 6 months ago should be similar.
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Jun 26, 2017 06:18
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Klyith posted:Structures having zero upkeep requirements -- which is why they get spammed out like they do -- is a different problem that shouldn't be put in the same bucket as what they do to war. I'm starting to agree. If citadel had even a nominal fueling requirement it would probably add a more natural balance to things. Even plinking in 10M ISK of fuel into a bay that holds a month's worth would probably do the trick.
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Jun 26, 2017 10:11
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Catberry posted:I'm just wondering what the invasion wars of the future will look like when each system has 50-200 astrahauses and 5 fortizars. It wouldn't, no one wants to do that poo poo.
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Jun 26, 2017 10:42
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I had to see how greyscale put jump fatigue in Albion, and holy poo poo was I not let down. This is still the best thread in games.
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Jun 26, 2017 11:59
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PathAsc posted:I had to see how greyscale put jump fatigue in Albion, and holy poo poo was I not let down. This is still the best thread in games. I want to make a joke about 'Sub Fatigue' here, but I don't know poo poo about Albion Online. Wait- Is AO just Torchlight online? Because it looks like Torchlight Online. Xolve fucked around with this message at 12:44 on Jun 26, 2017 |
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Jun 26, 2017 12:41
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Klyith posted:And the best way to attack a keepstar is to make the enemy not bother showing up to defend it, like CO2's was. Making them feel thoroughly defeated by flipping sov and winning those battles is a good way to do that. It's like medieval warfare where you have to fight a long siege and starve the defenders into submission. It also means the only wars are wars of territorial conquest, which doesn't sit well with some people. Most of the Sov flipping happened after Co2 had already given up. Even when they were holding fast the understanding always was that tribute would fall eventually, simply because the capital force of NC. and PL could not be contested. Basically: them not defending their Keepstar had nothing to do with losing their sov, the demoralizing factor was the realization that they could not win against NC. and PL when capital escalations happened.
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Jun 26, 2017 14:00
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:people with no infrastructure cried hard about how it made travel too safe Which is stupid because you could cloak a dictor 350 km off the jb pos in line with the other jb and murder nerds all day long, and aside from initial scanning and setup it was actually easier than gates.
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Jun 26, 2017 14:29
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PathAsc posted:I had to see how greyscale put jump fatigue in Albion, and holy poo poo was I not let down. This is still the best thread in games. I remember when Greyscale wanted to buff lowsec sentry guns to give them increasing damage with each cycle and have them shoot anyone flashy, all because people were crying about getting vaporized when they autopiloted into Tama or w/e. Good to come back to the game and see he's still reviled.
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Jun 26, 2017 15:11
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PathAsc posted:I had to see how greyscale put jump fatigue in Albion, and holy poo poo was I not let down. This is still the best thread in games. What is it?
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Jun 26, 2017 15:46
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Nitrousoxide posted:What is it? 1001 Arabian dicks posted:if you pvp too much you get sent to the lockout zones where nothing fun ever happens so you gotta walk for 45 minutes just to get back to the action I have no idea if it's his baby or not, but I prefer to believe it is. I'm not digging any deeper than what a very quick Google showed me about the lockout zones. Game looks dumb.
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Jun 26, 2017 18:07
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PathAsc posted:I have no idea if it's his baby or not, but I prefer to believe it is. I'm not digging any deeper than what a very quick Google showed me about the lockout zones. Game looks dumb. It's runescape without the java client, plus retarded greyscale poo poo like pvp banishment.
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Jun 26, 2017 18:23
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Nitrousoxide posted:What is it? As far as I can figure out, Albion was supposed to have a safe->dangerous zone progression kinda like eve. But all the action ended up in the areas that were supposed to be less dangerous, so the pve-only carebears complained. Greyscale made a system where if you pvp you get shoved out to the most dangerous zones, which are almost completely empty, and have a timer before you can come back. Because he's a hack who only got a start in "game design" through CCP's idiotic hiring practices.
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Jun 26, 2017 18:26
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Rhymenoserous posted:Which is stupid because you could cloak a dictor 350 km off the jb pos in line with the other jb and murder nerds all day long, and aside from initial scanning and setup it was actually easier than gates. It would be even easier to interdict now due to larger grid sizes.
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Jun 26, 2017 18:27
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Klyith posted:As far as I can figure out, Albion was supposed to have a safe->dangerous zone progression kinda like eve. But all the action ended up in the areas that were supposed to be less dangerous, so the pve-only carebears complained. B-b-but w-what about freighter convoys?
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Jun 26, 2017 18:28
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wait the lockout zones are a thing? wow, greyscale is a shithead.
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Jun 26, 2017 18:40
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lucifirius posted:wait the lockout zones are a thing? wow, greyscale is a shithead. You just realized? He was reminiscing about freighter convoys one year at fanfest... Ugh.
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Jun 26, 2017 19:31
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Wibla posted:You just realized? He was reminiscing about freighter convoys one year at fanfest... Ugh. Performed many of those did he?
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Jun 26, 2017 19:40
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let's do some freighter convoys* * titans bridging freighters around
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Jun 26, 2017 19:42
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Wibla posted:You just realized? He was reminiscing about freighter convoys one year at fanfest... Ugh. Were those ever really even a thing? I remember hearing that back in the day nullsec logistics was literally jamming a carrier full of iterons and the like and that SC's were more useful for logistics than conflict.
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Jun 26, 2017 19:45
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Rhymenoserous posted:Were those ever really even a thing? I remember hearing that back in the day nullsec logistics was literally jamming a carrier full of iterons and the like and that SC's were more useful for logistics than conflict. No one wants to guard a lovely freighter for 30 jumps. No one ever did that, it's a waste of time/fun. I would rather run missions in empire.
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Rutibex posted:No one wants to guard a lovely freighter for 30 jumps. No one ever did that, it's a waste of time/fun. I would rather run missions in empire. FC's used to trick us into escorting them. It was the only way they could get escort fleets.
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