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What is going to be your favorite offseason storyline?
This poll is closed.
The Big3 Tourney 67 22.41%
Will Lakers draft Ball 40 13.38%
Where will the Pauls go 54 18.06%
Will LeBron jump ship to the Spurs or ?? 41 13.71%
Will every team in the league just pivot towards tanking 97 32.44%
Total: 210 votes
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EMC
Aug 17, 2004

They also used that #7 pick on a younger and possibly worse version of Mirotic

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Cool Buff Man
Jul 30, 2006

bitch

Zogo posted:

Cameron Payne, MCW, Rondo were three of the bottom ten worst shooters last season...all on the Bulls. Now they went out and got Dunn to make that FOUR of the top ten:

Hahah that sounds so dire when you put it that way

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003

Lockback posted:

Oh, what a good example.

Russel Westbrook
Tony Parker through most of his career
John Wall
Chris Paul hit basically the same number of 3s in '13 and '14 and no one was saying CP3 was done then
The Spurs were a below-average 3pt team last year and did just fine
Giannis is ok
Rondo was an all-star PG with the worse shooting

Most of those players are becoming increasingly outmoded.


Never gets old.


Some of these are interesting. Pau Gasol ranks #2 in the #3 slot behind only Jordan.

Lockback posted:

Westbrook brought a team to the finals and the WCF a couple times with seasons shooting right around .300.

That was KD.

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming
Are they going to try to retain MCW at all? I can't imagine the market will be huge for him but teams are always looking for big PGs

kingcobweb
Apr 16, 2005
https://twitter.com/CoachDaveDu4/status/879100836776779777

Is this how I link tweets oh god

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming

I'm happy Charlotte did the right thing for once but I'd really talked myself into Mitchell, he comes off great in interviews too. I wouldn't be surprised if he was the best of the Monk/DM/Kennard cluster

Niwrad
Jul 1, 2008

EMC posted:

They also used that #7 pick on a younger and possibly worse version of Mirotic

Mirotic can rebound. More like Bargnani.

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003

SpiritOfSanDimas posted:

Also in terms of future trajectory, given the rate at which KAT is improving I would say he's in position to have a better year next season, even if you thought Butler was better in 16-17

If KAT improves much more next year he'll be a legitimate MVP candidate.

ketchup vs catsup posted:

I used to work at a company connected to sports tickets.

We used to get calls from various teams begging us to buy leftover seats for $1-10 each, hundreds at a time, so they could plausibly keep their sellout streaks alive.

:laffo:

Lockback posted:

Spurs were 17th in the league in 3 point shots made. They built an offense that featured the 3 point shot less than most other teams. That's what below-average means in this context. Percentages don't mean as much as actual shots going in the basket.

When factoring in SAS 3P% they're #3 overall. That's significant. When comparing 3P vs. 3P% to ORtg it seems that 3P% is more important as it shares a .68 correlation with ORtg last year compared to a .51 correlation with 3P itself.

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003

morestuff posted:

Are they going to try to retain MCW at all? I can't imagine the market will be huge for him but teams are always looking for big PGs

Retention seems to fit the current Bulls trajectory.

euphronius posted:

I may have said their window is closing please don't quote that post.

When we're talking about window closing/opening are we talking about title aspirations? MIN doesn't seem close.

Metapod posted:

Minnesota should not replace rubio with Lowry because that does not make them better and Lowry does not fit their timeline

Lowry seems to have much stronger numbers.

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003

Punkin Spunkin posted:

Does it though?

I've been looking at finals series shooting and it appears KD put up the best shooting ever in 2017. I've checked back to 1971 so far and he's by far #1:

code:
NP	NP/48	Player		Year
49.96	12.05	Kevin Durant	2017
40.76	7.70	Michael Jordan	1992
38.84	7.31	Adrian Dantley	1988
38.52	6.37	Magic Johnson	1988
37.24	9.45	LeBron James	2014
36.36	6.36	James Worthy	1984
35.8	6.98	Ray Allen	2008
35.36	7.96	Kevin Durant	2012
34.8	6.96	Kevin McHale	1985
34.72	7.86	LeBron James	2017
And he only needed five games.

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.
I watched Donovan Mitchell several times, and I do like the dude, but also he was not really a point guard in college so there is going to be some learning curve there.

ketchup vs catsup posted:

I used to work at a company connected to sports tickets.

We used to get calls from various teams begging us to buy leftover seats for $1-10 each, hundreds at a time, so they could plausibly keep their sellout streaks alive.

Don't worry, Stubhub is there to make sure all those tickets sell for at least $20 dollars, which I guess is nice for teams maintaining fake sellouts, sucky for the families those $10 dollar seats the NBA mandated were meant for.

Pozload Escobar
Aug 21, 2016

by Reene

Zogo posted:

I've been looking at finals series shooting and it appears KD put up the best shooting ever in 2017. I've checked back to 1971 so far and he's by far #1:

code:

NP	NP/48	Player		Year
49.96	12.05	Kevin Durant	2017
40.76	7.70	Michael Jordan	1992
38.84	7.31	Adrian Dantley	1988
38.52	6.37	Magic Johnson	1988
37.24	9.45	LeBron James	2014
36.36	6.36	James Worthy	1984
35.8	6.98	Ray Allen	2008
35.36	7.96	Kevin Durant	2012
34.8	6.96	Kevin McHale	1985
34.72	7.86	LeBron James	2017

And he only needed five games.

[Retarded voice] yeah but he's a shook bitch and should have stayed in OKC where Russ could throw up garbage 3pt shots in crunch time

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
Are we really going with the dumb narrative that Westbrook held then back.

I mean if you watched them play Durant did have an issue of being passive.

Pozload Escobar
Aug 21, 2016

by Reene

CharlestheHammer posted:

Are we really going with the dumb narrative that Westbrook held then back.

I mean if you watched them play Durant did have an issue of being passive.

Wonder why.... *extreme thinkface emoji*

kingcobweb
Apr 16, 2005
I looked up Mitchell's pre-draft measurements and he's 6'1" with a 6'10" wingspan


what the gently caress

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

A Buff Gay Dude posted:

Wonder why.... *extreme thinkface emoji*

Because he seems to be a passive dude.

It's probably the biggest flaw in his game really.

As he is great at the actual basketball part.

Jota
May 6, 2003

uga-booga uga-booga

A Buff Gay Dude posted:

[Retarded voice] yeah but he's a shook bitch and should have stayed in OKC where Russ could throw up garbage 3pt shots in crunch time

Sounds the same as your normal voice??!!!

Papercut
Aug 24, 2005

CharlestheHammer posted:

Because he seems to be a passive dude.

It's probably the biggest flaw in his game really.

As he is great at the actual basketball part.

[Wide open KD claps for ball while Westbrook bricks shot].gif

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Papercut posted:

[Wide open KD claps for ball while Westbrook bricks shot].gif

Oh he clapped we'll never mind.

TheKevman
Dec 13, 2003
I thought Mad Max: Fury Road was
:mediocre:
so you should probably ignore anything else I say


If I could around the world on 3's one time like this in my life I'd die happy

Strawberry Panda
Nov 4, 2007

Breakfast Defecting, Slow Dick Touching, Root Beer Barreling SwagVP
The shots are easier with GSW than with OKC. That Finals scoring stat proves that.

That's why he left: to get easier shots. That's not a shot at Russ, just shows how great GSW already was.

NickRoweFillea
Sep 27, 2012

doin thangs

the_american_dream
Apr 12, 2008

GAHDAMN

CharlestheHammer posted:

Oh he clapped we'll never mind.

Yea a real one would've just punched russ in the face and stole the ball

Paracaidas
Sep 24, 2016
Consistently Tedious!

the_american_dream posted:

Yea a real one would've just punched russ in the face

But enough about Kevin Love's "knuckle pushups"

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
Durant has won solo against the rockets in the playoffs :v:

Lockback
Sep 3, 2006

All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.

This is amazing, pro-click.
"Shorty is 120 years old. 120 BC though."

I love Hassan Whiteside stories.

quote:

Hassan one time was flexing and admiring himself in front of a one-way mirror and the media was on the other side laughing their asses off without Hassan realizing.

quote:

Jason Jones covers the Kings and follows the team. After a year and a half with the Kings, Hassan was like "Hey Jason.... so why are you always here?" and Jason's like "What do you mean?" Hassan's like "Are you a really big fan or something? Why are you at all our games?" and Boogie, who was nearby, was like "Dude... what? Come on. He's the beat writer."

the_american_dream
Apr 12, 2008

GAHDAMN
The flexing was for a commercial iirc

Cool Buff Man
Jul 30, 2006

bitch
Ahh fuckin bummer

https://twitter.com/SiriusXMNBA/status/879335744954925056

Lockback
Sep 3, 2006

All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.

Is he still hurt?

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Lockback posted:

Is he still hurt?

Saying he's happy with his progress sure sounds like it.

tanglewood1420
Oct 28, 2010

The importance of this mission cannot be overemphasized

Shear Modulus posted:

Saying he's happy with his progress sure sounds like it.

https://twitter.com/SBNation/status/878982789642768384

But it's Philly, so who the gently caress knows.

Paul Zuvella
Dec 7, 2011

Super theoretical situation here.

Let's assume that DWade and Melo both get bought out and the Cavs add them for basically nothing.

Kyrie
JR
Lebron
Love
TT

Wade
Melo
Ian Sjumpert
Some scrub center they sign in the offseason

Does that make them competitive against the Warriors?

Metapod
Mar 18, 2012
If melo and wade are able to give LeBron rest without giving up any lead they have or keep any deficit they have then yes

EvanTH
Apr 24, 2004

i like to express my inner pain by being really boring on the phone
or just when i'm kickin it
that's me though
i'm kind of oddddddd

Zogo posted:

Illinois could be 1st state with 'junk' credit due to budget
http://hosted2.ap.org/APDEFAULT/f70...f82761fb8efc116

IL could be the first US state to file for bankruptcy. It's so bad they're going to start charging a big tax on all soft drinks in Cook County on July 1st. Also, the big lotteries are about to leave. That $3,500,000 could help.

First state nothin', ain't even first time Illinois done it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_bankruptcies_in_the_1840s

Hashtag Banterzone
Dec 8, 2005


Lifetime Winner of the willkill4food Honorary Bad Posting Award in PWM

Paul Zuvella posted:

Super theoretical situation here.

Let's assume that DWade and Melo both get bought out and the Cavs add them for basically nothing.

I would like to see Brooklyn offer to take Wade and Melo for a 2nd round pick each.

Redgrendel2001
Sep 1, 2006

you literally think a person saying their NBA team of choice being better than the fucking 76ers is a 'schtick'

a literal thing you think.


This was already posted several days ago and it's not like he hasn't already played in one.

Lockback
Sep 3, 2006

All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.

Paul Zuvella posted:

Super theoretical situation here.

Let's assume that DWade and Melo both get bought out and the Cavs add them for basically nothing.


Wade was still alright in Chicago. Giving him minutes instead of Shumpert would be a big positive on offense, though I don't know who he'd guard. He's still pretty good at sniffing out passing lanes but he's been pretty slow otherwise. Maybe let him play PG off the bench.

Melo is interesting too, because a Love/Melo/Lebron/JR/Kyrie lineup is a pretty good answer to the Draymond/Durant/Iggy/Klay/Steph lineup. Doesn't match perfectly but it'd probably be a step up what they had. I am also assuming Melo would work harder on D than he has in the recent past.

WhyteRyce
Dec 30, 2001

Kings Summer League roster:

Jack Cooley
De'Aaron Fox
Harry Giles
Dominique Hawkins
Buddy Hield
Justin Jackson
Skal Labissiere
Naz Mitrou-Long
Frank Mason
Georgios Papagiannis
Malachi Richardson

We are going to destroy people

Chairchucker
Nov 14, 2006

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022




I'm seeing Paul George to Cavs rumours and I'm OK with that.

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Cool Buff Man
Jul 30, 2006

bitch

Redgrendel2001 posted:

This was already posted several days ago and it's not like he hasn't already played in one.

What does that have to do with it being a shame that he's not playing in summer league

Sorry I missed your super hot scoop on Ben Simmons still being injured

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