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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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Red Oktober posted:Kingdom is a noun with a meaning independent of the UK, so it gets an article. So is Ukraine.
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Saint Isaias Boner posted:I'm scouring twitter for any takes that are even mildly positive about the DUP deal and all I'm coming up with is "it'll keep corbyn out". They literally have nothing positive to say about this, it is objectively terrible.   This is my Dad's exact take.
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Jun 26, 2017 16:29
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Coohoolin posted:Only if the fuckers kick me out. Congratulations! the government are now proposing to drop their harsh interpretation of the Comprehensive Sickness Insurance requirement so you can probably forget about that private health cover you're looking for https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/26/eu-citizens-living-in-uk-must-apply-for-special-id-card-after-brexit
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Jun 26, 2017 16:30
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For those of us not as well versed in British parliamentary procedure, what are the key failure points for May et al in the coming week(s)? What votes could lead to a collapse and new election?
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Jun 26, 2017 16:31
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Pissflaps posted:So is Ukraine. Yes, but a meaning that's considered pretty offensive to the populace. Self-determination, even just of names, trumps grammatical accuracy.
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Jun 26, 2017 16:34
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feedmegin posted:Except actually 'the Ukraine' versus just 'Ukraine' was actually A Thing that was making Ukrainians angry back when the little green men were doing their thing, I guess because it subtly labels Ukraine as a region (of Russia) rather than a country. I think it's mostly a thing you do without thinking because it's what you've heard other people do. If you learn something one way you don't often question it unless someone calls attention to it, and if you do notice that it's unusual, you probably won't correctly deduce why. It's always been 'the Ukraine' to me because I didn't even know that the distinction was meaningful, so thanks. No shame in not knowing, only in refusing to learn. I've never heard 'the Yemen', though. The Sudan, the Kongo, the Shan, the Gambia, the Philippines, the UK, the US, the Netherlands, the Czech Republic...
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Jun 26, 2017 16:34
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The DPRK posted:
Have you informed your dad that May isn't actually in power?
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Jun 26, 2017 16:36
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The DPRK posted:
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Jun 26, 2017 16:37
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https://twitter.com/ben4bath/status/879288987768303616 Rather interesting approach from LGBTory there…
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Jun 26, 2017 16:38
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Pissflaps posted:So is Ukraine. I'm not arguing that.
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TinTower posted:https://twitter.com/ben4bath/status/879288987768303616 Tory voters are dumb enough to vote to get hosed over, makes sense an LGBTory ex-MP would willingly do the same.
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Jun 26, 2017 16:45
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So when are they cancelling the NHS?
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Jun 26, 2017 16:46
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Teddybear posted:For those of us not as well versed in British parliamentary procedure, what are the key failure points for May et al in the coming week(s)? What votes could lead to a collapse and new election? There will be a number of attempted amendments to the Queen's Speech, usually the opposition attempt to insert one that replaces the entire text with their own take. The final vote will be next week, around 5/6 July. Unless something serious happens, the conservatives will pass it. After that... there should be a budget this autumn, and another in autumn 2018. They've already confirmed that there won't be a 2018 Queen's Speech. Of course you don't need to be at one of these points to bring a confidence motion. Labour could simply introduce one to the effect of "this House has no confidence in Her Majesty's Government". However you want to be drat sure that you have the votes to do this, so until the Tories lose seats to defections / by-elections it won't happen.
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Strom Cuzewon posted:Yes, but a meaning that's considered pretty offensive to the populace. There's a  with Myanmar though, many exiles prefer Burma.
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Jun 26, 2017 16:56
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Lightning Lord posted:So when are they cancelling the NHS? Right now http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-hunt-nhs-firm-nhsp-health-department-save-money-taxpayers-70-million-year-a7807911.html
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Jun 26, 2017 16:57
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Party Boat posted:There will be a number of attempted amendments to the Queen's Speech, usually the opposition attempt to insert one that replaces the entire text with their own take. The final vote will be next week, around 5/6 July. Unless something serious happens, the conservatives will pass it. What's to stop Labour tabling a no-confidence vote every week?
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Jun 26, 2017 16:57
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Amber Rudd is Theresa May's successor as Conservative Home Secretary. That's all the reason you'll ever need to hate her.
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Jun 26, 2017 16:57
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Tesseraction posted:We don't call it "The Iraq" and we don't call the terrorist organisation "The Base" so it's just an unnecessary tic to refer to the Republic of Yemen. And we call it The Lebanon!
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Jun 26, 2017 16:58
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The DPRK posted:What's to stop Labour tabling a no-confidence vote every week? The government control the Business of the House.
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Jun 26, 2017 17:03
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The DPRK posted:What's to stop Labour tabling a no-confidence vote every week? There's quite a few hoops to be jumped through before you can do that, otherwise you could turn the government over by just all turning up in the middle of a 7-person debate on soil erosion measures in the lower Fens. I can't remember the exact rules but it's something along the lines of it must follow on a defeat of a bill that the Speaker believes constitutes a failure of confidence in the Government, and I'm sure there's some rules about the minimum number of MPs that have to be in attendance and giving notice of the motion?
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^^^ better answers up hereThe DPRK posted:What's to stop Labour tabling a no-confidence vote every week? Technically nothing, but it's a big public gesture and failing reduces your credibility (and don't forget this isn't just Labour v Tories, it's a patchwork quilt of parties v Tories and DUP). Realistically you only get one shot. Party Boat fucked around with this message at 17:07 on Jun 26, 2017 |
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Jun 26, 2017 17:04
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Isn't the vote this week?
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Jun 26, 2017 17:07
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jBrereton posted:The YAR* Who is this we? It's certainly not me. You could call it The Lebanese Republic, but if not, it's Lebanon.
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Jun 26, 2017 17:08
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goddamnedtwisto posted:There's quite a few hoops to be jumped through before you can do that, otherwise you could turn the government over by just all turning up in the middle of a 7-person debate on soil erosion measures in the lower Fens. Be honest though it would be amazing if you could troll the government of the day by bursting into one of these and them all having to rush to parliament to make the confidence vote succeed. It would utterly destroy productivity of the elected government but frankly they've been pretty bollocks even without malicious obstructionism.
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Jun 26, 2017 17:09
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learnincurve posted:Isn't the vote this week? poo poo you're right, I somehow blanked that the speech was last week.
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Jun 26, 2017 17:10
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Worth remembering that the fixed term parliaments act has really softened the danger of a vote of no confidence. Even if the gov loses one they still have two weeks to pass an explicit motion of confidence. Which I'm sure is worth a couple of billion more to the DUP.
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Jun 26, 2017 17:10
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https://twitter.com/David_Cameron/status/879294469299998720 I read this as circus.
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Jun 26, 2017 17:23
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Cerv posted:Congratulations! the government are now proposing to drop their harsh interpretation of the Comprehensive Sickness Insurance requirement so you can probably forget about that private health cover you're looking for As a European I don't really have the same instinctive dislike of ID cards that most UK lefties seem to have, so I'm not too concerned.
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Jun 26, 2017 17:26
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It was always possible before than a government could gain the confidence of the House without an election (Gladstone lost confidence then regained it in 1873; MacDonald formed a minority government after Baldwin fell in 1924). Typically, however, governments advised the Sovereign to dissolve Parliament if they lost a confidence motion. The FTPA removes the prerogative power to dissolve Parliament. Hence, a government can, at least in theory, survive a Queen's Speech defeat if the amendment doesn't change the motion to an explicit no-confidence motion. Whether they could survive in practice is a different matter.
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Jun 26, 2017 17:30
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The independent are reporting that Jeremy Hunt is to sell off a staffing company that saves the taxpayer around £70 million a year. Have someone tell you that isn't ideologically driven.
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Jun 26, 2017 17:32
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Skinty McEdger posted:Worth remembering that the fixed term parliaments act has really softened the danger of a vote of no confidence. Even if the gov loses one they still have two weeks to pass an explicit motion of confidence. So what checks are in place in your country to stop something like this from going on infinitely? What's to prevent the Conservatives from just continually showering money on the DUP to keep their votes in the most blatant display of corruption? mehall posted:The independent are reporting that Jeremy Hunt is to sell off a staffing company that saves the taxpayer around £70 million a year. And yeah, what's with this massive Jeremy Hunt being allowed to continue this?
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Jun 26, 2017 17:32
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Redeye Flight posted:So what checks are in place in your country to stop something like this from going on infinitely?
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Jun 26, 2017 17:36
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Pig Fucker supports more pig loving.
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Jun 26, 2017 17:37
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Redeye Flight posted:So what checks are in place in your country to stop something like this from going on infinitely?
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Jun 26, 2017 17:37
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Doccykins posted:Right now Quotin this in case people skip over links quote:Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt selling off NHS firm which saves taxpayer £70m a year quote:Last November, Philip Dunne, Minister of State for Health, said the deal was necessary to create investment and bring in expertise. "This NHS agency is too cost-effective and working too well compared to the private sector, we need to sell it off to private investors who are known for their altruism" That's the thing that makes Jeremy Hunt good at his job, he absolutely gives no fucks that he's there to publicly tell the NHS "dance for me" and then shoot it in the foot
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ShredsYouSay posted:https://twitter.com/David_Cameron/status/879294469299998720
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Jun 26, 2017 17:38
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Worth noting that the company that looks to be in the running to win the NHS bid, Staffline, also owns PeoplePlus which is the recently renamed Action For Employment (aka A4E). You may remember A4E for its long history of fraudulent dealings on government contracts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PeoplePlus#Fraud_investigations
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Jun 26, 2017 18:02
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So, anyone got a good list of Catholic and gay conservative MPs and a record of D.U.P. commentary on them? I think now is the time to bombard them with what their erstwhile allies think of them.
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Samovar posted:So, anyone got a good list of Catholic and gay conservative MPs and a record of D.U.P. commentary on them? I think now is the time to bombard them with what their erstwhile allies think of them. Rees-Mogg is very Catholic and a notorious rebel.
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