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I'm not really feeling Dunkirk yet. Something about it seems... I won't say lifeless, but there's some kind of spark missing. A story more or less of fish getting shot in a barrel and so far the trailers aren't showing anything that would offset that bleakness yet. Compare it to something like Titanic where you knew going in you were getting all the sumptious peroid piece visuals and a sensual love story between two gorgeous actors. Oh, and it also had Billy Zane.
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Guy Mann posted:Esquire's write-up of Book of Henry is what I read, I feel it does a better job breaking down the actual beat-by-beat plot of the movie. Sweet Jesus, this is they guy they have set to direct the next Star Wars film!?
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Jun 26, 2017 18:27
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Lobok posted:I'm not really feeling Dunkirk yet. Something about it seems... I won't say lifeless, but there's some kind of spark missing. A story more or less of fish getting shot in a barrel and so far the trailers aren't showing anything that would offset that bleakness yet. Compare it to something like Titanic where you knew going in you were getting all the sumptious peroid piece visuals and a sensual love story between two gorgeous actors. Yeah, it's like Christopher Nolan watched Pearl Harbor, loved the harbor attack sequence, but missed that it's just an exciting backdrop for a love triangle story.
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Jun 26, 2017 18:32
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Considering the sexlessness and emotional detachment of many of Nolan's movies,I don't think it's that surprising.
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Jun 26, 2017 18:52
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Dunkirk but all the British soldiers are sparkle vampires, all the boat crew are average bland women, and all the Nazis are werewolves.
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Jun 26, 2017 19:03
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Guy Mann posted:Esquire's write-up of Book of Henry is what I read, I feel it does a better job breaking down the actual beat-by-beat plot of the movie. What the gently caress?
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Jun 26, 2017 19:13
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Yeah the Nolan movies are weirdly super chaste. It doesn't help that Christian Bale is the least romantic actor I've ever seen in action. I'm a fan but he's incapable of sincere affection on camera. He shows up in Captain Corelli's Mandolin as a spurned greek lover but all you get is Patrick Bateman about to go to a chainsaw store.
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Jun 26, 2017 19:14
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well why not posted:Yeah the Nolan movies are weirdly super chaste. It doesn't help that Christian Bale is the least romantic actor I've ever seen in action. I'm a fan but he's incapable of sincere affection on camera. He shows up in Captain Corelli's Mandolin as a spurned greek lover but all you get is Patrick Bateman about to go to a chainsaw store. At least it worked for The Machinist.
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Jun 26, 2017 19:19
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well why not posted:Yeah the Nolan movies are weirdly super chaste. It doesn't help that Christian Bale is the least romantic actor I've ever seen in action. I'm a fan but he's incapable of sincere affection on camera. He shows up in Captain Corelli's Mandolin as a spurned greek lover but all you get is Patrick Bateman about to go to a chainsaw store. Someone needs to watch Little Women.
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Jun 26, 2017 19:21
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Guy Mann posted:Esquire's write-up of Book of Henry is what I read, I feel it does a better job breaking down the actual beat-by-beat plot of the movie. This sounds insane and I kinda want to see it now.
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Jun 26, 2017 19:23
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Sir Kodiak posted:Yeah, it's like Christopher Nolan watched Pearl Harbor, loved the harbor attack sequence, but missed that it's just an exciting backdrop for a love triangle story. Considering how terribly the love triangle was handled in Pearl Harbor, that sounds like a good thing.
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Jun 26, 2017 20:26
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Netflix just picked up Dan Gilroy's new movie. Those of you who are asking who that is, he directed Nightcrawler, my favourite movie of 2014. It's also going to star Jake Gyllenhaal. No title or release day yet.
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Jun 26, 2017 20:32
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LesterGroans posted:Someone needs to watch Little Women. Eh. I don't think Bale is sexless but he's not very giving as a romantic lead.
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Jun 26, 2017 20:34
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He's not very giving as a sexual partner either, though he does commit.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Eh. I don't think Bale is sexless but he's not very giving as a romantic lead. Yeah. I mean, he's upstaged by sadsack Gabriel Byrne in Little Women anyway.
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Jun 26, 2017 20:58
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well why not posted:Yeah the Nolan movies are weirdly super chaste. It doesn't help that Christian Bale is the least romantic actor I've ever seen in action. I'm a fan but he's incapable of sincere affection on camera. He shows up in Captain Corelli's Mandolin as a spurned greek lover but all you get is Patrick Bateman about to go to a chainsaw store. This is true but also an aspect of his acting that is put to incredible use in The Prestige.
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Sir Kodiak posted:Yeah, it's like Christopher Nolan watched Pearl Harbor, loved the harbor attack sequence, but missed that it's just an exciting backdrop for a love triangle story. All of Nolan's movies since The Dark Knight Rises seems to be him trying to follow Michael Bay's career. TDKR was The Rock, and Interstellar was Armageddon. I think it was right around when he started making TDKR that Wally Pfister revealed Nolan is a Bay fan.
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Lobok posted:I'm not really feeling Dunkirk yet. Something about it seems... I won't say lifeless, but there's some kind of spark missing. A story more or less of fish getting shot in a barrel and so far the trailers aren't showing anything that would offset that bleakness yet. Compare it to something like Titanic where you knew going in you were getting all the sumptious peroid piece visuals and a sensual love story between two gorgeous actors. The marketing for Dunkirk is the thing that gets me. The early trailers were all really slow and quiet, they made it seem like a serious war drama and a friend of mine who absolutely loves war films was really excited to see it. Now all of a sudden when you go to see a movie you get like four three second trailers that are just DUNKIRK and two seconds of people running, screaming and getting shot followed by loud VWOOOOW sounds. Now it just seems like a lovely action movie and said friend thinks it looks like garbage.
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Jun 26, 2017 23:21
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Fictional love stories in historical epics are pretty much always godawful.
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Jun 26, 2017 23:37
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Having seen Valerian it is very weird and I'd be shocked if it wasn't DOA as people don't do weird. It's the same reason Blade Runner will bomb
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Jun 26, 2017 23:38
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Byzantine posted:Fictional love stories in historical epics are pretty much always godawful. Dr Zhivago.
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Dunkirk just seemed like such a strange choice for Nolan. I'm sure it will be at least decent but a straightforward war movie just seems like something that lacks the "hook" (for lack of a better word) that all of Nolan's previous movies have had. I guess if the movie focuses on the bizarreness of soldiers just waiting to be picked up in this cold sandy beach while the enemy refuses to fight, but I can't see that sustaining an entire movie. Plus, I think it's his first movie since Insomnia without Michael Caine.
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Jun 26, 2017 23:40
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I was never much in the market to see Dunkirk, but the saturation ads for it are draining my desire even more. I think there were at least two before the same movie, the other day.
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The MSJ posted:All of Nolan's movies since The Dark Knight Rises seems to be him trying to follow Michael Bay's career. TDKR was The Rock, and Interstellar was Armageddon. I think it was right around when he started making TDKR that Wally Pfister revealed Nolan is a Bay fan. I'm a huge Nolan fan but before anyone tries to act like this is some kind of insult to him as a director, it's an extremely astute post because Nolan really is a huge Michael Bay fan. So it makes perfect sense that after Dark Knight making tons of money and him being able to do pretty much whatever he wants that that's directly where he went. http://www.slashfilm.com/christopher-nolan-loves-watching-michael-bay-movies/ Byzantine posted:Fictional love stories in historical epics are pretty much always godawful. Uh you'll find that in the film The Terminator they travel back in time to 1984 making it a historical epic about a fictional love story and it's loving awesome.
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This is not surprising because Nolan and Bay are two of the best big production big name directors around. Top 5. They are very worthy of greatness and to me it feels like a second coming of Ridley Scott and James Cameron. However yes both have some kind of issue with sexlessness in their movies or lack of real physical intimacy. Bay displays women in a sort of exploitive childish way when he does his strip club shots and the way he films in his TF movies and Nolan is non existent from what I can recall. Probably partly to do with either a subject they don't want to explore or American audience attitude towards sex. Edit: also they're going for mass appeal so rating Gatts fucked around with this message at 00:21 on Jun 27, 2017 |
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Jun 27, 2017 00:13
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sbaldrick posted:Having seen Valerian it is very weird and I'd be shocked if it wasn't DOA as people don't do weird. An advance screening? Care to drop a spoiler block? Plot (are you familiar with the source Valerian series Ambassador of the Shadows?)? Thoughts?
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The MSJ posted:TDKR was The Rock Even as someone that doesn't hate Rises, how dare you compare it to a masterpiece.
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The MSJ posted:All of Nolan's movies since The Dark Knight Rises seems to be him trying to follow Michael Bay's career. TDKR was The Rock, and Interstellar was Armageddon. I think it was right around when he started making TDKR that Wally Pfister revealed Nolan is a Bay fan. I am gonna agree with the above poster that this makes no sense. I can grasp that Nolan possibly emulated Bay but otherwise, no. The obvious comparison is that in TDKR Batman flies off with the nuclear weapon (but doesn't die and lives to be found by his manservant at some bistro) whereas Willis makes Aerosmith daughter wet her face when he goes balls deep in Armageddon. The Rock was just pure magic and transcends Bay/Bruckheimer
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MisterBibs posted:I was never much in the market to see Dunkirk, but the saturation ads for it are draining my desire even more. I think there were at least two before the same movie, the other day. Yeah, they did that at the theater I was just at. Instead of a full trailer for Dunkirk, they did 20 second trailer snippets in between all the other trailers. I thought they'd just hosed up at first, but I guess that's how they're advertising it.
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The Rock and TDKR were both about terrorists that appeared kinda sympathetic taking an island hostage with WMDs and featured action in the sewers. Both Armageddon and Interstellar had blue collar protagonists going to space to stop the end of the world.
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The dudes in Armageddon are proper blue collar. The Interstellar guy is a rocket scientist that fell back on farming because the world was ending.
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If that's Nolan's pattern, I guess we're getting Memento II in a couple years.
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FreudianSlippers posted:The dudes in Armageddon are proper blue collar. The Interstellar guy is a rocket scientist that fell back on farming because the world was ending. Yeah McConaughey was like the smartest guy in Iowa.
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Like that's a high bar.
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cptn_dr posted:Like that's a high bar. He played a corny dad but the scene where he rammed his truck through the fields to chase down that Indian drone with his daughter was amazing.
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So they've started working on a sequel to The Accountant. I thought the original was okay but it was kind of hurt by the weird backstory with a bunch of odd bits. Like, why the gently caress did the government hide his real identity even after he went to prison?
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muscles like this! posted:So they've started working on a sequel to The Accountant. I thought the original was okay but it was kind of hurt by the weird backstory with a bunch of odd bits. Like, why the gently caress did the government hide his real identity even after he went to prison? Yeah, that movie was good when it was about action accounting, particularly the stuff with the farm couple, and bad whenever it focused on shocking twists about people's identities and backstories. Hadn't realized it had done well enough to earn a sequel, but I'm up for it if they learn the right lessons.
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muscles like this! posted:So they've started working on a sequel to The Accountant. I thought the original was okay but it was kind of hurt by the weird backstory with a bunch of odd bits. Like, why the gently caress did the government hide his real identity even after he went to prison? I'm glad. I really liked it, every bit of it. Action Accounting is awesome. It reminds me of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, original OVA, where the best episode is the poker game. Not a punch thrown but incredible tension, strategy, wit, etc.
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Gatts posted:I'm glad. I really liked it, every bit of it. Action Accounting is awesome. I feel like you undercut your point in the second sentence but it takes all kinds. I just thoroughly enjoyed it. muscles like this! has a point but it's a really fun movie. And may not need a sequel but w/e.
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