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Eeyo
Aug 29, 2004

Javes posted:

That $32T is absurdly nonsensical. $32T over 10 years is what we pay now, he is making a case for single payer without realizing it.l

Seriously. People just need to understand that it won't magically cost more, and plus you'll never have to deal with paying huge bills or loving around with insurance!

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ReidRansom
Oct 25, 2004


botany posted:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/879405223399350272

they're going to spin this as a decision really hard and when case actually gets decided their base will be super confused.

lol @ O

Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005
He's such an impatient pissbaby that he couldn't type 0 instead of O :laffo:

Eeyo
Aug 29, 2004


Now he can't technically be wrong, because 9-O isn't a real score!

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

botany posted:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/879405223399350272

they're going to spin this as a decision really hard and when case actually gets decided their base will be super confused.

lol that you think super confused isn't the permanent state of trumpland

Carlosologist
Oct 13, 2013

Revelry in the Dark

wait, so SCOTUS voted to only hear the travel ban case? they're spinning that as a victory?

they're so desperate, who knows how much more stupid poo poo will happen by October

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Alter Ego posted:

He's such an impatient pissbaby that he couldn't type 0 instead of O :laffo:

the O stands for Obama

ReidRansom
Oct 25, 2004


Alter Ego posted:

He's such an impatient pissbaby that he couldn't type 0 instead of O :laffo:

But you have to hit shift to do either on a phone.

skylined!
Apr 6, 2012

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

PT6A posted:

What, do they just point at things and grunt there?

Where do they did up these focus group people, anyway? I've seen Ohio focus groups on CNN from time to time, and I can't help but think "how do these people become so loving stupid?" I live in the province with the most amazingly stupid people in all of Canada, and you'd still be hard pressed to find people who are that stupid.

you know you sound really dumb when you drone on about how dumb other people are right

Fuschia tude
Dec 26, 2004

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2019


Caro was a political chess piece between Russia and the US? I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but :psyduck:

Space Gopher
Jul 31, 2006

BLITHERING IDIOT AND HARDCORE DURIAN APOLOGIST. LET ME TELL YOU WHY THIS SHIT DON'T STINK EVEN THOUGH WE ALL KNOW IT DOES BECAUSE I'M SUPER CULTURED.

botany posted:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/879405223399350272

they're going to spin this as a decision really hard and when case actually gets decided their base will be super confused.

I think you mean "super angry at traitorous activist judges that keep Trump from making America great."

ThePeavstenator
Dec 18, 2012

:burger::burger::burger::burger::burger:

Establish the Buns

:burger::burger::burger::burger::burger:

Eeyo posted:

Seriously. People just need to understand that it won't magically cost more, and plus you'll never have to deal with paying huge bills or loving around with insurance!

But I never have to do those things because I Do Not Get Sick, That Only Happens To Other People And I Don't Want To Pay For Them.

Javes
May 6, 2012

ASK ME ABOUT APPEARING OFFLINE SO I DON'T HAVE TO TELL FRIENDS THEY'RE NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR MY VIDEO GAME TEAM.
https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/879407697485025280

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Fuschia tude posted:

Caro was a political chess piece between Russia and the US? I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but :psyduck:

Yeah I just put that together as well.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

skylined! posted:

you know you sound really dumb when you drone on about how dumb other people are right

PT6A once had a giant meltdown about the proper IGP of parmesan reggiano and threw a huge fit about how the plebian trash sold in stores as 'imitation' parmesancheese should be banned

ThePeavstenator
Dec 18, 2012

:burger::burger::burger::burger::burger:

Establish the Buns

:burger::burger::burger::burger::burger:

that's already gone, what did it say?

TARDISman
Oct 28, 2011




This one's already gone, what was it?

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

Javes posted:

That $32T is absurdly nonsensical. $32T over 10 years is what we pay now, he is making a case for single payer without realizing it.l

I believe the source of the figure is that it would "raise government spending" by that much. So you can't credit existing medicaid/medicare/obamacare spending to that number: it would be $32t on top of that. However, a good chunk of that is, as people correctly assume, everyone else's spending on heath care that would be shifted to the federal government. However, there would still be a considerable net increase in health care spending overall by about $6.6 trillion over the same time period (2017-2026) as the $32t number. I'm pretty sure the $32 trillion source is this: http://www.urban.org/sites/default/files/alfresco/publication-pdfs/2000785-The-Sanders-Single-Payer-Health-Care-Plan.pdf

So, $6.6t of new spending, ~$25.4t of redirected spending (state, local, personal) that is now paid for by the federal government.

goethe.cx
Apr 23, 2014


Carlosologist posted:

wait, so SCOTUS voted to only hear the travel ban case? they're spinning that as a victory?

they're so desperate, who knows how much more stupid poo poo will happen by October

They also voted to let the ban go into effect vis a vis citizens of the blocked countries with no US ties. So a partial victory but nothing worth going crazy over

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

FizFashizzle posted:

Yeah Mississippi makes Alabama look like Scandinavia.

Actually this is what Alabama tells itself to make itself feel better. Like getting shot in the left knee is better than getting shot in the right knee.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

skylined! posted:

you know you sound really dumb when you drone on about how dumb other people are right

I don't really care. It stems, again, from the stunning frustration that I have less control over the actions of my nearest neighbour, the preeminent superpower in the world, than does an imbecile in Alabama who thinks Comey somehow protected the Clintons and was involved in the Clinton Foundation. Do you understand how loving frustrating that is? How do you allow these people to go out in public unescorted, much less vote?

eyebeem
Jul 18, 2013

by R. Guyovich
http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/jared-kushner-calls-kim-jong-un-totally-unqualified-person-who-got-job-only-through-nepotism

quote:

Jared Kushner Calls Kim Jong-un “Totally Unqualified Person” Who Got Job Only Through Nepotism

CodeJanitor
Mar 30, 2005
I still can't think of anything to say.

mastajake posted:

You can bet your rear end if Dems had stolen an SC seat like Reps did (lol), they would make a point of saying "The Illegitimate Neil Gorsuch" as much as possible instead of "The Honorable Neil Gorsuch." Decorum and faith in the system is going to keep loving us over, isn't it?

As has been stated a lot over the last 6 months (jesus gently caress its only been 6 god drat months), institutions that have been the bubble gum and duct tape holding the United States together will not save this "democracy". We are very quickly heading down the complete backslide of a stable democracy and there is not much of anything that is going to stop it. By the time the population recognizes they have lost their system of government forever the use of violence to push it back will be too late.

Vox had a pretty good quick introduction to democratic backsliding https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF-Tdsvk0tI. Reading up more on the previous and current examples is a good eye-opener.

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002


Woke Kushner

botany
Apr 27, 2013

by Lowtax

boner confessor posted:

lol that you think super confused isn't the permanent state of trumpland

the permanent state of trumpland is actually "incredibly convinced you know what's going on" and not confused.

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


ThePeavstenator posted:

that's already gone, what did it say?

TARDISman posted:

This one's already gone, what was it?

https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/879408250021720066

They misread an article or something.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

Eeyo posted:

Seriously. People just need to understand that it won't magically cost more, and plus you'll never have to deal with paying huge bills or loving around with insurance!

Actually that's precisely what the study said. It makes a basic amount of sense: the basic moral problem with healthcare in America is that about 25 million people don't have it at all. Giving those 25 million people healthcare costs money. Sure, there are savings elsewhere, but the care for that 25 million isn't free.

Blitz of 404 Error
Sep 19, 2007

Joe Biden is a top 15 president

The people that know what the word nepotism means are too jaded and cynical to care at this point and the other half think that nepotism is the American dream

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

botany posted:

the permanent state of trumpland is actually "incredibly convinced you know what's going on" and not confused.

i worked in a hospice for a while, confusion and confidence is a dangerous combo

skylined!
Apr 6, 2012

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

PT6A posted:

I don't really care. It stems, again, from the stunning frustration that I have less control over the actions of my nearest neighbour, the preeminent superpower in the world, than does an imbecile in Alabama who thinks Comey somehow protected the Clintons and was involved in the Clinton Foundation. Do you understand how loving frustrating that is? How do you allow these people to go out in public unescorted, much less vote?

i assume they let you outside unescorted in canada too. probably works the same way.

skylined!
Apr 6, 2012

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

:ironicat:

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.



:thejoke:

ThePeavstenator
Dec 18, 2012

:burger::burger::burger::burger::burger:

Establish the Buns

:burger::burger::burger::burger::burger:

it's a parody

eyebeem
Jul 18, 2013

by R. Guyovich

:iiam:

skylined!
Apr 6, 2012

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

quote:

that's the joke

well thanks guys that almost made my day better

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

You do realize Borowitz is the New Yorker's version of the Onion? Right?

I mean, you were calling me stupid, so surely something so obvious wouldn't pass right by you and your towering intellect, right?

Bunni-kat
May 25, 2010

Service Desk B-b-bunny...
How can-ca-caaaaan I
help-p-p-p you?

skylined! posted:

i assume they let you outside unescorted in canada too. probably works the same way.

We don't let people have guns. Super different.

eyebeem
Jul 18, 2013

by R. Guyovich
I like when people post Borowitz links ITT. I'm glad I got to do it this time.

DaveWoo
Aug 14, 2004

Fun Shoe

PT6A posted:

You do realize Borowitz is the New Yorker's version of the Onion? Right?

Whoa, harsh burn on The Onion there, dude

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Kylra
Dec 1, 2006

Not a cute boy, just a boring girl.
We live in the parody timeline, how can you really tell?

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