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Voyager I posted:It's getting hard for me to follow politics because current events make me so angry, especially around the healthcare bill. There is sincere murder in my heart for Paul Ryan, and while I don't think it's wrong (if he has his way, he will knowingly be responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent people), it's not really a place I want to be. Other than just tuning out for a bit, what are some strategies people have for coping with this level of anger? drinking
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Voyager I posted:It's getting hard for me to follow politics because current events make me so angry, especially around the healthcare bill. There is sincere murder in my heart for Paul Ryan, and while I don't think it's wrong (if he has his way, he will knowingly be responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent people), it's not really a place I want to be. Other than just tuning out for a bit, what are some strategies people have for coping with this level of anger? Get involved. Do something.
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So these are the current no votes? https://twitter.com/bykowicz/status/879391938209861632
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Jun 26, 2017 20:28
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Javes posted:So these are the current no votes? There is no way Johnson and Cruz vote no.
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evilweasel posted:No. The ban is likely to be struck down at least in part because upholding even part of the stay requires a finding that the plaintiffs are likely to prevail on that part. I kind of doubt that. Various comments and statements from the administration have made clear the review is blatently pretextual and they will be endorcing a ban as stringent as they can get it on an "emrgency" basis. To commit to the punt metaphor it isn't even a pooch punt, more like a forward fumble.
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mcmagic posted:There is no way Johnson and Cruz vote no. I don't know about Johnson, but Cruz might just be enough of a contrarian, Paul-esque imbecile to do it. He's hosed the party before. No, I do not feel comfortable putting my faith in Ted loving Cruz.
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Spiritus Nox posted:I don't know about Johnson, but Cruz might just be enough of a contrarian, Paul-esque imbecile to do it. He's hosed the party before. He just wants attention. He needs to vote Yes for his re election in 2018.
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Javes posted:So these are the current no votes? Yes. There's also 2 unknowns in Capito and Collins I think.
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IANAL so I will refrain from interpreting this, but: https://twitter.com/chrisgeidner/status/879419751478505472
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B B posted:IANAL so I will refrain from interpreting this, but: Moot due to it being past the 90 days of the band length right?
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Voyager I posted:It's getting hard for me to follow politics because current events make me so angry, especially around the healthcare bill. There is sincere murder in my heart for Paul Ryan, and while I don't think it's wrong (if he has his way, he will knowingly be responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent people), it's not really a place I want to be. Other than just tuning out for a bit, what are some strategies people have for coping with this level of anger? Exercise if you're fortunate enough to be healthy. Also, look for people places and ways you can put your feet on the ground in protest or in service. Look for meals on wheels and volunteer programs that dovetail with your skills and inclinations. Part of this right wing enfilade is built on atomizing society and breaking people with convergent interests apart. Resist that by standing with your fellows. Failing that, the best last resort for terror and anomie is and remains a unitarian church social night. Meet and be with people, and keep your body healthy for the long night to come, and for the day of reckoning that will follow.
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Jun 26, 2017 20:35
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Here on page 999, let's pour one out for the man who would make a greater president than Trump, Herman Cain.
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Jun 26, 2017 20:35
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Targeting Johnson, Paul, and Lee are such hilarious wastes of cash. They aren't up until 2022.
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Boon posted:Targeting Johnson, Paul, and Lee are such hilarious wastes of cash. They aren't up until 2022. Good. Let his stupidPAC waste money.
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They'd probably get better bang for their buck by just hiring spree shooters to go into highly blue areas and have at it.
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Here on page 999, let's pour one out for the man who would make a greater president than Trump, Herman Cain. A hundred year old, blind dog would be better.
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Jun 26, 2017 20:39
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Boon posted:Targeting Johnson, Paul, and Lee are such hilarious wastes of cash. They aren't up until 2022. Speaking of hilarious wastes of cash: https://twitter.com/RobByersWV/status/879416665712336896
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Moot due to it being past the 90 days of the band length right? Correct. The effective date of the EO was March 16.
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I was making fun of a dude for believing the Seth Rich conspiracy. He told me about this story from last week: http://www.newsweek.com/seth-rich-murder-report-profiling-project-627634 Seth Rich Update: DNC Staffer Murdered by Serial Killer, Not in Botched Robbery, Report Claims posted:The report states that Rich’s July 2016 “death does not appear to be a random homicide” or “a robbery gone bad,” as police had suggested. Instead, the report says, the “death was more likely committed by a hired killer or serial murderer,” and that the killer is likely still at large. quote:“The person folks [should be] looking for and considering isn’t a robber who kills, but really is a killer, and maybe a killer that doesn’t rob,” says Kevin Doherty, a recent George Washington University graduate and one of the volunteers with the Profiling Project. “The fact that this person has gotten away with it shows a level of proficiency.” quote:the Profiling Project states in its methodology that it “was given no special access to any materials, evidence or persons, and due to case sensitivity, conducted only informal, limited interviews.” Chilichimp fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Jun 26, 2017 |
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Jun 26, 2017 20:41
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mcmagic posted:There is no way Johnson and Cruz vote no. Johnson is such a slimy weasel. gently caress my state for choosing him over fiengold twice.
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Jun 26, 2017 20:41
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Even the liberal justices thought so too though. Which upsets me even if it may be the technically correct thing to do by the law. This is why progressives lose over time in the face of a determined right wing swing. Liberal justices will generally honor precedent and at least look for actual statutory rationale to support their decisions. The Scalias, Gorsuch's, and Alito's will just openly backflip to achieve their desired result.
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Your Taint posted:Johnson is such a slimy weasel. gently caress my state for choosing him over fiengold twice. That election result will never be not surprising and depressing but then again, you also elected Scott Walker 3 times.
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mcmagic posted:He just wants attention. He needs to vote Yes for his re election in 2018. No he doesn't, not if he can spin it as his continuing crusade of True Conservatism vs THE CORRUPT PARTY ESTABLISHMENT AND DC FAT CATS. I said it earlier and it bears repeating, his whole career in the senate started by loving over the party establishment and dropping Dewhurst. The only thing that matters to him is maintaining that image of the true conservative underdog against Those Elites.
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TGLT posted:No he doesn't, not if he can spin it as his continuing crusade of True Conservatism vs THE CORRUPT PARTY ESTABLISHMENT AND DC FAT CATS. I said it earlier and it bears repeating, his whole career in the senate started by loving over the party establishment and dropping Dewhurst. The only thing that matters to him is maintaining that image of the true conservative underdog against Those Elites. Then why has he been groveling before Trump since the primary ended? He knows he needs Dear Leader's fans to win in 18.
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Chilichimp posted:I was making fun of a dude for believing the Seth Rich conspiracy. He told me about this story from last week: When will this story die? Are we still going to be hearing about it in 50 years like some grassy knoll nonsense? 
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Jun 26, 2017 20:44
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Rich's family needs to sue the poo poo out of some people.
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twice burned ice posted:When will this story die? gently caress man. I'm laughing so hard at this poo poo at this point. There will always be some contingent of people (every likely republican voter) who believes Seth Rich was murdered by the DNC.
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Cruz played his contrarian hardcore Tea Party role to get to where he is now. He absolutely will not be the roadblock that prevents the GOP from harming millions. He'll squeal about it enough to raise his profile but he'll bow down in a millisecond.
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twice burned ice posted:When will this story die? Are we still going to be hearing about in 50 years like some grassy knoll nonsense? Well, we're the country that still hasn't jailed Bill and Hillary for the murder of Vince Foster.
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twice burned ice posted:When will this story die? Are we still going to be hearing about in 50 years like some grassy knoll nonsense? I've watched 5 Seasons of Criminal Minds so I'm basically an FBI profiler and in my professional opinion...
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Unzip and Attack posted:Cruz played his contrarian hardcore Tea Party role to get to where he is now. He absolutely will not be the roadblock that prevents the GOP from harming millions. He'll squeal about it enough to raise his profile but he'll bow down in a millisecond. On the other hand, he has consistently sabotaged GOP efforts because they weren't insane enough.
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mcmagic posted:Then why has he been groveling before Trump since the primary ended? He knows he needs Dear Leader's fans to win in 18. Trump and McConnell are not the same nor occupy the same position in the minds of conservatives, especially tea party types. Trump, in the minds of his supporters, does not represent the Republican establishment. McConnell does. I'm not saying it's guaranteed he'll vote against it, but it absolutely isn't guaranteed he bends the knee. Not to some one like McConnell. Nor is there necessarily any reason to believe he would pay a price for rebellion. If Trump goes after him on this then maybe, but if McConnell does so what he's dealt with the GOP's leadership before.
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Our own Brown Moses had some thoughts about the media today. There's a long thread after this tweet. https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status/879414110810591232
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iSimian posted:No Tick Tick Tick news yet? Pretty sure it was nothing he made a tweet about potential collusion and that's about it Sinteres posted:Our own Brown Moses had some thoughts about the media today. There's a long thread after this tweet. loving this. Take them to court if denied , don't take it sitting down
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TGLT posted:Trump and McConnell are not the same nor occupy the same position in the minds of conservatives, especially tea party types. Trump, in the minds of his supporters, does not represent the Republican establishment. McConnell does. It's all about Trump voters who know who Mitch McConnell is aren't reachable. He needs Trumps fans in 2018.
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DaveWoo posted:Speaking of hilarious wastes of cash: This is insane. The Mueller/Comey smear jobs too.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...m=.2c7c7a158fb0 Seattle's $15 minimum wage is now descending into duelling studies.
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