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Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

Horrible Lurkbeast posted:

Was posted in the weird news thread:

this is extremely czech

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Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

http://i.imgur.com/8ajv143.gifv

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


My only experience with Czech women is at a business conference that had our counterparts from world wide for cultural exchange, after the first night dinner I was going to bed when I get a knock on my door. I answer in my pajamas and it's this Czech woman who has a similar job to mine in another location I had met at the dinner. She's absolutely one of the most gorgeous women I've ever met, holding two beers, said "Put on some pants, everyone is going drinking. This is the good stuff"(I think it was Radegast). So all the people our age are having a party with loving awesome Czech beer, and she completely controls the room effortlessly. There's nothing untoward about any of it, there's nobody of either gender making advances on anyone, it's a super cool, seven-lingual rager that this lady has effortlessly orchestrated, along with her other co-worker from the Czech Republic and a Polish guy from Germany, and was just an amazing experience. It was like going over to Wonder Woman's apartment and everyone is drinking beer and having a good time. All this despite everyone having completed like 20 hour flights earlier that day.

People from the Czech republic and Polish Germans loving rule is my experience.

Applesnots
Oct 22, 2010

MERRY YOBMAS


I am the guy at the end trying to push it on by myself.

Roumba
Jun 29, 2005
Buglord
Teamwork makes the dream work!

Also longer lever arms?

ChesterJT
Dec 28, 2003

Mounty Pumper's Flying Circus

Ten minutes later, the driver takes a turn over 5mph and it overturns.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

I am utterly astounded that a) this worked and b) no one died

Gromit
Aug 15, 2000

I am an oppressed White Male, Asian women wont serve me! Save me Campbell Newman!!!!!!!
Is it possible for someone to do a steelmill tour and actually get close enough to a crucible or arc furnace or something to get a feel for the heat and noise?
Or is that an OSHA no-go? I'd love to see it, but feel most tours would keep you too far away.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

International traveller doesn't have a power adaptor, but does have two sets of nail clippers?

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
They also don't have the seven seconds it would take to call down to the front desk of that hotel and get one, which wouldn't cost them anything.


It's staged.

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem

Gromit posted:

Is it possible for someone to do a steelmill tour and actually get close enough to a crucible or arc furnace or something to get a feel for the heat and noise?
Or is that an OSHA no-go? I'd love to see it, but feel most tours would keep you too far away.

Depends on what you're thinking of as "close enough". You're almost certainly not getting near the furnace while it's open though - they're not going to open it up (and lose a bunch of heat) so a tour group can have a look, and when it's opened up to charge the furnace then no-one at all is allowed in the potential blast zone.

You can definitely experience the noise, as well as the baseline heat from being in the same room as the furnace while it's closed. And the tour I was on, the tour route went on a catwalk above where the steel is extruded, and you could definitely feel the heat coming off that.

quite stretched out
Feb 17, 2011

the chillest

Memento posted:

They also don't have the seven seconds it would take to call down to the front desk of that hotel and get one, which wouldn't cost them anything.


It's staged.

I think the first time I saw it it was purportedly done by a navy electrician, so it's actually entirely believable

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!

Memento posted:

They also don't have the seven seconds it would take to call down to the front desk of that hotel and get one, which wouldn't cost them anything.


It's staged.

Yes, people do often stage their own suicides, that's how they're done. What you're seeing is the MacGyver of suicide.

Gromit
Aug 15, 2000

I am an oppressed White Male, Asian women wont serve me! Save me Campbell Newman!!!!!!!

Jabor posted:

And the tour I was on, the tour route went on a catwalk above where the steel is extruded, and you could definitely feel the heat coming off that.

That sounds perfect. I was looking at a tour nearby and they sounded like you'd see it through the window of a tour bus.

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem

Gromit posted:

That sounds perfect. I was looking at a tour nearby and they sounded like you'd see it through the window of a tour bus.

It's probably something that varies, so you might want to ask the operator about specifics if it's important to you. I imagine you're going to get bussed around a bunch regardless just because of the size of the plant - we basically got dropped off on one side of a building, walked through it, got picked up on the other side to go to the next one.

GotLag
Jul 17, 2005

食べちゃダメだよ

Strange, United States v. Hooker Chemicals & Plastics Corp. appears to have no detail of this, other than Occidental claiming Hooker management believed they were threatened with condemnation. Also, in the passage you've quoted none of the people listed as failing to react were the one who wrote the letter apparently notifying Hooker of condemnation proceedings.

There are some other interesting passages, though (page 1023):

quote:

Hooker's decision to transfer the site was probably most influenced by the understanding that the Company could not continue to use the Canal efficiently. At the same management meeting in which Mr. Hooker reported on the threat of condemnation, he stated that the Canal was nearing its exhaustion point, "on its capability of handling what we wanted to put in there ... [and that] there were real possibilities of substituting, either through new acquisition or expansion, the real estate needed to continue the dumping needed based on the current output." Willers Dep., Ex. 1703 at 100. Mr. Young reported that in the long term, Love Canal was not as important for the disposal of residues as they had initially thought, and that they could cope with waste disposal at other sites. However, there was no change in the general opinion that the area in which chemical wastes were located had to be kept intact. "[I]t was made abundantly clear that the only condition or one of the conditions ... if it was going to be used for a playground ... that the land could not be disturbed." Id. at 109.

In addition, pages 1006 and onward detail the rather haphazard nature of the dumping (burial depth ranged from half a foot to the planned four feet, and as on page 1030, the locations of the pits were poorly recorded:

quote:

As a result of this discovery, the location of the school was moved approximately 85 feet north of the originally planned location. T. 2901 (Cohen). During closing arguments, OCC agreed that the materials found during the excavation for the school were chemical wastes in pits not shown on any map. OCC concedes that it made a mistake by not finding and including the pits on the map it prepared for the School Board. Truitt, Closing Arguments, January 7, 1992, at p. 111.

In short: the dumping was half-arsed and poorly recorded, and the company transferred the land because it was reaching the end of its utility as a dumping site.
Pages 1067-1069:

quote:

Considering all of these circumstances, the court finds that the State has failed to prove by a preponderance of the evidence that Hooker's conduct at Love Canal met the Roginsky standard necessary for an award of punitive damages. The court emphasizes that this verdict does not signify approval of Hooker's conduct. Hooker was negligent on a number of occasions as the court has already noted. But a finding of outrageous conduct and reckless or wanton disregard of the safety of others requires more. And the conduct must be judged by the law in force at the time of action or inaction. There are further proceedings in this case. Hooker's conduct as set forth in this decision will be considered a part of that future record, if appropriate.

GotLag fucked around with this message at 10:34 on Jun 26, 2017

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

Gromit posted:

Is it possible for someone to do a steelmill tour and actually get close enough to a crucible or arc furnace or something to get a feel for the heat and noise?
Or is that an OSHA no-go? I'd love to see it, but feel most tours would keep you too far away.
I've visited the sandvik mill and it's p small scale (they do super high end steel alloys mostly) but still metal AF.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Hubis posted:

The release said the experience was greatly enjoyed by the girls, who were required to wear hard hats and enclosed shoes at all times.

Yeah, sounds perfectly OSHA to me :confused:

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Nenonen posted:

Yeah, sounds perfectly OSHA to me :confused:

Distractions can be hazardous as demonstrated in this documentary piece:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmkYD6fxCGw

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


Jabor posted:

Depends on what you're thinking of as "close enough". You're almost certainly not getting near the furnace while it's open though - they're not going to open it up (and lose a bunch of heat) so a tour group can have a look, and when it's opened up to charge the furnace then no-one at all is allowed in the potential blast zone.

You can definitely experience the noise, as well as the baseline heat from being in the same room as the furnace while it's closed. And the tour I was on, the tour route went on a catwalk above where the steel is extruded, and you could definitely feel the heat coming off that.

I recently had the opportunity to be next to a hot rolling line for 80" rolls. The slabs they were sending down the line (roughly 10' x 5' x 8" at the part I had access to) were radiating hard enough that you could feel them pass by a good 30' away.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

GotLag posted:

Strange, United States v. Hooker Chemicals & Plastics Corp. appears to have no detail of this, other than Occidental claiming Hooker management believed they were threatened with condemnation. Also, in the passage you've quoted none of the people listed as failing to react were the one who wrote the letter apparently notifying Hooker of condemnation proceedings.

It's written record that the city threatened other property owners who were reluctant to sell with condemnation. Even that much is sufficient for Hooker to factor that into their decision-making process.

quote:

In addition, pages 1006 and onward detail the rather haphazard nature of the dumping (burial depth ranged from half a foot to the planned four feet, and as on page 1030, the locations of the pits were poorly recorded:

Yes. Hooker wasn't the only entity using that site as a dumping ground. Other groups that used it to dispose of waste were the city itself and the Army. Not sure what that has to do with Hooker (a) warning the city not to build poo poo there, (b) telling the city "If you sell this to anyone else you need to warn them not to build poo poo there, and (c) the city deciding to build poo poo there and breaking open the sealed vault.

GotLag
Jul 17, 2005

食べちゃダメだよ
Well for one thing it wasn't anything like as sealed as they made out. So well sealed, in fact, that barrels were being exposed through subsidence absent any other activity.

Sorry if that doesn't fit your narrative of the poor defenceless chemical company being bullied by the big mean government

GotLag fucked around with this message at 16:02 on Jun 26, 2017

Volcott
Mar 30, 2010

People paying American dollars to let other people know they didn't agree with someone's position on something is the lifeblood of these forums.
Maybe the truth is somewhere in the middle.

Bunni-kat
May 25, 2010

Service Desk B-b-bunny...
How can-ca-caaaaan I
help-p-p-p you?

GotLag posted:

Well for one thing it wasn't anything like as sealed as they made out. So well sealed, in fact, that barrels were being exposed through subsidence absent any other activity.

Sorry if that doesn't fit your narrative of the poor defenceless chemical company being bullied by the big mean government

Corporations are lovely, governments are incapable. Why can't they both have done poo poo incorrectly?

Volcott posted:

Maybe the truth is somewhere in the middle.

...gently caress.

Boinks
Nov 24, 2003



Is this OSHA?

NoneMoreNegative
Jul 20, 2000
GOTH FASCISTIC
PAIN
MASTER




shit wizard dad

Safely rigged.

https://twitter.com/YouHadOneJ0B/status/879361113485434880

DiHK
Feb 4, 2013

by Azathoth
No loose straps, looks good to me.

Lime Tonics
Nov 7, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
Captains cooked,

In the first detailed account from one of those directly involved, the cargo ship’s captain said the ACX Crystal had signaled with flashing lights after the Fitzgerald “suddenly” steamed onto a course to cross its path.

The container ship steered hard to starboard (right) to avoid the warship, but hit the Fitzgerald 10 minutes later at 1:30 a.m., according to a copy of Captain Ronald Advincula’s report to Japanese ship owner Dainichi Investment Corporation that was seen by Reuters.

The U.S. Navy declined to comment and Reuters was not able to independently verify the account.

There are now six active U.S. and Japanese investigations into the crash, and Japanese investigators have focused on the unusual hour-long delay between the accident and the Fitzgerald’s initial distress call.

http://www.businessinsider.com/report-uss-fitzgerald-ignored-cargo-ships-warnings-before-impact-2017-6

he be in jail soon, trying to make a cover up story in a hour, seems like.

jailbait#3
Aug 25, 2000
forum veteran

Gromit posted:

Is it possible for someone to do a steelmill tour and actually get close enough to a crucible or arc furnace or something to get a feel for the heat and noise?
Or is that an OSHA no-go? I'd love to see it, but feel most tours would keep you too far away.

If you don't mind the creepy company town, Kohler's factory tour is awesome/terrifying (http://www.us.kohler.com/us/Industry-in-Action-Factory-Tours/content/CNT400040.htm). You get really, really close to live cast iron pouring. Also free!

Masturbasturd
Sep 1, 2014
I used to videotape a buttload of depositions involving the EPA versus numerous chemical corporations (and their many defunct shell corporations) about cleaning up their toxic poo poo. Terms like "consent decree" and "underground plume" got tossed about a lot. These slick lawyers would grill some ancient retired executive who would mumble for days and days.
It was like he was an aged wizard casting a sleep spell. The main hazard for me was staying awake through that poo poo. I guess the free coffee was an OSHA requirement.

GotLag
Jul 17, 2005

食べちゃダメだよ

Avenging_Mikon posted:

Corporations are lovely, governments are incapable. Why can't they both have done poo poo incorrectly?

I'm not saying the board of education was blameless, I'm taking exception to the claim that the chemical company was blameless.

Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

My molecule scrambler ray will disintegrate your armor with one blow!
Reminder that eyepro is needed in all jobs, even if you're just a teacher



(I know it's not really osha, but I figured most of you would get a kick out of it)

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

Sentient Data posted:

Reminder that eyepro is needed in all jobs, even if you're just a teacher



(I know it's not really osha, but I figured most of you would get a kick out of it)

Listen I have enough pointless poo poo I desperately need from Amazon already

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


Lime Tonics posted:

Captains cooked,

In the first detailed account from one of those directly involved, the cargo ship’s captain said the ACX Crystal had signaled with flashing lights after the Fitzgerald “suddenly” steamed onto a course to cross its path.

The container ship steered hard to starboard (right) to avoid the warship, but hit the Fitzgerald 10 minutes later at 1:30 a.m., according to a copy of Captain Ronald Advincula’s report to Japanese ship owner Dainichi Investment Corporation that was seen by Reuters.

The U.S. Navy declined to comment and Reuters was not able to independently verify the account.

There are now six active U.S. and Japanese investigations into the crash, and Japanese investigators have focused on the unusual hour-long delay between the accident and the Fitzgerald’s initial distress call.

http://www.businessinsider.com/report-uss-fitzgerald-ignored-cargo-ships-warnings-before-impact-2017-6

he be in jail soon, trying to make a cover up story in a hour, seems like.

He was crushed in the wrecked part of the ship for that hour and severely injured but he is probably SOL

Gobbeldygook
May 13, 2009
Hates Native American people and tries to justify their genocides.

Put this racist on ignore immediately!

Gumbel2Gumbel posted:

Listen I have enough pointless poo poo I desperately need from Amazon already
They're called "toothpick crossbows" and are banned from Amazon. You have to go to eBay for them. They start at $12.

Cugel the Clever
Apr 5, 2009
I LOVE AMERICA AND CAPITALISM DESPITE BEING POOR AS FUCK. I WILL NEVER RETIRE BUT HERE'S ANOTHER 200$ FOR UKRAINE, SLAVA

GotLag posted:

I'm not saying the board of education was blameless, I'm taking exception to the claim that the chemical company was blameless.
And it's not like the company wouldn't have recourse were the local government being obstinate about it. Just have the lobbyist they undoubtedly already employee at the state capital pop in the governor's office and say "Hundreds of children will die on your watch if these idiots in this city build on this land." Even if they get ignored, they can get in writing evidence that they exhausted all options before letting the disaster happen.

Phanatic's going to need to post some primary sources if he wants to convince anyone the company was wholly blameless. Reason.com is to capitalism what ISIS is to Islam (ie. a gross perversion of the philosophy it claims to represent).

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

Gobbeldygook posted:

They're called "toothpick crossbows" and are banned from Amazon. You have to go to eBay for them. They start at $12.

I have an Amazon Platinum Subscription, you can get a kidney or a Senator's seat if you have the money.

Duzzy Funlop
Jan 13, 2010

Hi there, would you like to try some spicy products?

Sentient Data posted:

Reminder that eyepro is needed in all jobs, even if you're just a teacher



(I know it's not really osha, but I figured most of you would get a kick out of it)

Anything involving toothpicks is OSHA as gently caress. I recently spent a grand total of $450 on medical bills after stepping into one and having the tip break off in the ball of my foot.

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Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

Someone is going to ask if you live in America next

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