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peanut posted:Oooh tell me more about the construction and renovation of the white house. Was it structural reinforcement or was the First Lady just going crazy with the redecorating? It had some serious structural problems. Like, it was dire even by the standards of this thread. quote:President Truman commissioned the complete rebuilding of the White House after nearly falling through the floor while having bath as hundreds of dignitaries attended a ball below him.
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Having just read that article, I seriously recommend everyone read that article. But, to sum, the building's last major reconstruction was in 1812, after it burned down, and some of the material had been freakin' reused. Since then it had been expanded, and a third floor tacked on with modern materials on top of the old one with all the weight being put on the interior walls... In 1948 the White House was a terrifying architectural Frankenstein's monster, and there was a very real danger of the central portion collapsing. But it would have looked REAL bad to tear the thing down outright, which is why you see that astonishing photo of work going on inside the exterior walls.
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SoundMonkey posted:i was trying to find a friend's new house so i just typed his address into google. i mean yeah maps popped up but the first hit was a youtube walkthrough from the realtor last time it was on the market. like... wouldn't it be sorta courteous to remove that when it sells? I identified the problem!
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I think you mean Truman's grand entrance to the DAR ball was foiled by the old construction components.
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peanut posted:Oooh tell me more about the construction and renovation of the white house. Was it structural reinforcement or was the First Lady just going crazy with the redecorating? They finally decided to remove Taft's corpse from the bath tub and they needed to gut most of the place to move him.
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Redeye Flight posted:1812, after it burned down 
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Platystemon posted:It had some serious structural problems.  Good god. The White House is/was a McMansion (i.e. built cheaply, following whatever fads its owners had a passing interest in). It explains so much.
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Hell yeah that was awesome, got any more crappy historical reconstruction links?!?! 
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Was crappy construction the reason that Reconstruction failed, or was it ALIENS? Next on the History channel, right after Pawnstars.
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therobit posted:Was crappy construction the reason that Reconstruction failed, or was it ALIENS? Next on the History channel, right after Pawnstars. let me call my buddy who knows engineered joists i figure i can give you $15 for the whole house, take it or leave it
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Redeye Flight posted:Having just read that article, I seriously recommend everyone read that article. But, to sum, the building's last major reconstruction was in 1812, after it burned down, and some of the material had been freakin' reused. Since then it had been expanded, and a third floor tacked on with modern materials on top of the old one with all the weight being put on the interior walls... It didn't burn down all the way, thanks to the tornado
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:
Don't forget that the White House counts as a Groverhaus, due to two stays by Grover Cleveland. 
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Cindy Shitbird posted:Don't forget that the White House counts as a Groverhaus, due to two stays by Grover Cleveland. WhiteHaus: Bulletproof Stairs
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SoundMonkey posted:WhiteHaus: Bulletproof Stairs Given the stupid amount of armoring inside it, I wouldn't doubt that the stairs do in fact serve a role as armor in some way.
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Methylethylaldehyde posted:Given the stupid amount of armoring inside it, I wouldn't doubt that the stairs do in fact serve a role as armor in some way. from that pic of the rebuilding, it's probably load-bearing armor
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Number 10 also had massive restoration work in the 60s as by then dryrot had made the upper floors so hazardous that they had to limit the number of people. Other wooden pillars were turning into sawdust. I think I recall reading that the paint was barely keeping them intact. They also discovered the famous black bricks were yellow having accumulated years of soot. So they kept the look painting them black. And then only a few years after the redo more dryrot was found and leaky plumbing forced another remodel in the 80s.
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Government buildings barely keeping a respectable facade while rotting from the inside out? That's a little too on the nose.
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Government built and run schools in Australia have some odd issues. The first is the gas heaters that aren't vented so spew CO into the air. The only schools that got replacements are those considered cold enough in winter otherwise you're supposed to keep a window open. The current electric ones in my workshop I don't want to turn on because I don't know the last time they where turned on and theres probably a load of super fine sawdust trapped in the back of them. Plumbing often doesn't work properly and most of the buildings where thrown up in the 60's and 70's to meet demand. There's 4-5 different designs but to fit them onto the site they'd occasionally spin them to fit. This means the admin block might be the whole way down the back of the school or if the land wasn't suitable the building will slide down the hill.
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Number 10 is a fine analogy because on the outside it presents the appearance of a normal family townhouse but on the inside they've ripped out the whole street to turn it into one giant bureaucratic mess. With a cat.
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Platystemon posted:after nearly falling through the floor while having bath This sounds awfully familiar.....
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 Look great on the outside, falling down on the inside quote:Labour MP Ben Bradshaw has complained to the Commons authorities that "urine seems to be pouring" into his office.
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Cindy Shitbird posted:Don't forget that the White House counts as a Groverhaus, due to two stays by Grover Cleveland. Two nonconsecutive stays.
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All of a sudden Trump move up his London trip to today.
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Every piece of cladding so far tested for fire resistance after the Grenfell Tower disaster had failed to meet the necessary standard, the prime minister’s spokesman said. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/27/may-orders-national-inquiry-after-100-failure-rate-in-high-rise-cladding-tests
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The 2007 and 2008 continuing resolutions for the US budget led to some tough decisions in maintaining some GSA buildings. Spending $818 million to build something and then scrimping on maintaining it is a very Government thing to do.
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Synthbuttrange posted:Every piece of cladding so far tested for fire resistance after the Grenfell Tower disaster had failed to meet the necessary standard, the prime minister’s spokesman said. Yeah, but think about how much money they saved installing the inflammable kind of cladding!
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ExplodingSims posted:But what is the state of London Bridge? Well they set a man to watch all night so it should be fine.
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ExplodingSims posted:But what is the state of London Bridge? Falling down?
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It feel down so hard it's in Arizona now.
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Phanatic posted:Oh gently caress yes. techdirt posted:Zillow and its lawyer, Christopher Poole, (note: not moot) 4chan's founder trying to sue people over image use would be the biggest instance of irony in history.
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ExplodingSims posted:But what is the state of London Bridge? I get  but London Bridge is a concrete slab behemoth and I'm sure most of us would be happy if it fell down so it could be replaced by something less awful.
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Arachnamus posted:I get Actually, it is a beautiful brutalist masterpiece that should be preserved for all time. 
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Jerry Cotton posted:They finally decided to remove Taft's corpse from the bath tub and they needed to gut most of the place to move him.
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Phanatic posted:Oh gently caress yes. If Zillow truly cared about "manipulated photos", they would ban all the real estate agents that stretch photos horizontally to make rooms look bigger.
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Armacham posted:Please ban all HDR photography as well. HDR photography is a necessity unless do all your real estate photography at night and/or work for literal troglodytes. It’s just that when it’s done well, no one notices. Platystemon fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Jun 27, 2017 |
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Platystemon posted:HDR photography is a necessity unless do all your real estate photography at night and/or are work for literal troglodytes. Or like carrying a whole shitload of watt-seconds into each and every room of every house you shoot. quote:It’s just that when it’s done well, no one notices. And when it's done wrong it's funny. Jesus, Zillow, the whole point of fair use is that you don't need permission. Nobody's asking you for permission, you don't need to give it. Fire your lawyers. vvvvvvvv
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https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/06/mcmansion-hell-used-zillow-photos-to-mock-bad-design-zillow-may-sue/ https://archpaper.com/2017/06/zillow-mcmansion-hell/ https://www.theverge.com/2017/6/26/15876602/zillow-threatens-sue-mcmansion-hell-tumblr-blog http://www.baltimoresun.com/features/baltimore-insider-blog/bs-fe-hopkins-student-zillow-mcmansion-hell-20170627-story.html http://www.chron.com/homes/article/Blogger-who-roasted-Houston-McMansion-homes-11248720.php http://gizmodo.com/zillow-sends-cease-and-desist-letter-to-mcmansion-hell-1796435051 http://fortune.com/2017/06/27/mcmansion-hell/ quote:A representative from Zillow, Emily Heffter, clarified the company’s intent in response to a query from The Architect’s Newspaper. The email contained a message from Katie Curnutte, the company’s vice president of communications and public affairs, to Wagner that explained Zillow’s beef with the images: Uhhhh Zillow, admitting you don't own the copyright probably isn't going to work out so well for you.
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