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This Jun + Carol mini-arc is actually kinda unexpected. I wasn't really expecting the comic to put these two particular characters together for any extended period of time. Having Jun interact with non-Tomo characters actually makes me like him a lot more as a character.
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I think the drone comic is the widest his eyes have opened the entire series
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Jun 24, 2017 08:27
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Jun 24, 2017 09:40
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Carol is extremely powerful.
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Jun 24, 2017 10:07
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Carol is a genius who can master any technique after seeing it once.
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Jun 24, 2017 11:44
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or she knew it all along and was trying to get jun to cop a feel 
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Captain Invictus posted:or she knew it all along and was trying to get jun to cop a feel That was my initial guess, but Carol is extremely powerful so the ultra genius card is always on the table.
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Jun 24, 2017 14:28
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This is the moment where Jun has to take Carol seriously as an opponent
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I can't help but wonder if Jun has simply always thought of Tomo as a guy for such a long time that he's nearly incapable of seeing her as a girl. I know he found out she is a girl in junior hight, but those formative early years might be very important. At least, I'm wondering if that's what the author is trying to ultimately get at. I do agree that Jun is irrationally thick when it comes to Tomo, but I'd like to think there is a better reason than simply keeping the manga going and going and going. Once Tomo and Jun do (if ever) get together, that may be the end. Frankly, I'd like to see Jun hookup with someone other than Tomo. I can imagine watching Tomo's face as Jun shows affection for some other girl.
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It's less that he sees tomo as a guy, it's that tono is both his best friend and represents the ideal of what jun wants to be. At this point he's becoming more aware of her as a woman and that he may not just think of her as a friend, but he's scared to risk their friendship so he's sticking with what works (and at this point being a bit wilfully obtuse). Also the manga seems to be following a school year and they've not long got past the summer break, so I imagine there won't be a huge change until after the Christmas events.
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the jun/tomo relationship is shockingly nuanced from jun's side for something like this
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Dan7el posted:I can't help but wonder if Jun has simply always thought of Tomo as a guy for such a long time that he's nearly incapable of seeing her as a girl. I know he found out she is a girl in junior hight, but those formative early years might be very important. When Tomo looks and acts like the boy he grew up idolizing that's all he ends up seeing her as. When she doesn't then he's painfully aware that she's a girl, though the jury's still out on if he realizes how into her he is. This is all pretty straightforward and pretty obvious based on everything that's happened so far. And even if it wasn't, Jun outright stops short of saying as such explicitly when he describes his relationship to Tomo to Kousuke using twins as a metaphor.
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Jun is weak against sporty girls, news at 11.
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basically, jun is totally gay for his non-existent male friend and is having trouble coming to terms with his nascent heterosexuality.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:totally gay gimme the GOD drat candy posted:heterosexuality. something isnt adding up here
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Tomo + Jun = 4eva
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Gay
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Totally gay
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ArfJason posted:something isnt adding up here i don't think it's complex. the person whose hog he wanted to ride for all those years turned out to not have a hog at all. so, he has to wonder if he truly loves hogs or if he still loves a person who lacks a hog.
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i just wanted to say hog repeatedly
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That's fine, so long as you don't hog the conversation in this thread.
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Does Jun have some actual reason for being so standoff-ish with Carol? From his perspective, it seems like he's being a dick for no reason to this random cute girl who wants to hang out with him. If he knew her well I could understand him (correctly) assuming she's loving with him, but otherwise it just makes him come off like an antisocial dweeb.
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the first impression was suspect, for one
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Yeah, I think he clearly senses she has ulterior motives, and doesn't want to get pulled into the vortex.
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Ytlaya posted:Does Jun have some actual reason for being so standoff-ish with Carol? From his perspective, it seems like he's being a dick for no reason to this random cute girl who wants to hang out with him. If he knew her well I could understand him (correctly) assuming she's loving with him, but otherwise it just makes him come off like an antisocial dweeb. He is an antisocial dweeb. Underneath those ripped abs lies the nerdy core of a game boy.
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Jun 26, 2017 21:38
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Carol is a trickster God. Jun knows better than to gently caress with her.
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Ytlaya posted:Does Jun have some actual reason for being so standoff-ish with Carol? From his perspective, it seems like he's being a dick for no reason to this random cute girl who wants to hang out with him. If he knew her well I could understand him (correctly) assuming she's loving with him, but otherwise it just makes him come off like an antisocial dweeb. Uh, I dunno how well he knows her, but they've had lunch together, gone to the beach, beat up gangs together, hung out with Tomo, so they're not total strangers.
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Ytlaya posted:Does Jun have some actual reason for being so standoff-ish with Carol? From his perspective, it seems like he's being a dick for no reason to this random cute girl who wants to hang out with him. If he knew her well I could understand him (correctly) assuming she's loving with him, but otherwise it just makes him come off like an antisocial dweeb. Carol used Jun's inability to just leave someone waiting to get him to hang out with her, then she was very touchy-feely against his wishes, now she's following him home. There are many reasons for Jun to not be particularly happy with Carol. Plus Jun *is* pretty antisocial when it comes to any girl other than Tomo.
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Ytlaya posted:Does Jun have some actual reason for being so standoff-ish with Carol? From his perspective, it seems like he's being a dick for no reason to this random cute girl who wants to hang out with him. If he knew her well I could understand him (correctly) assuming she's loving with him, but otherwise it just makes him come off like an antisocial dweeb. Jun has come to the (correct) conclusion that anyone- besides Tomo- that actively wants to be friends with Mizusu is dangerous and should be avoided if possible and not aggravated if not. SatansBestBuddy posted:Uh, I dunno how well he knows her, but they've had lunch together, gone to the beach, beat up gangs together, hung out with Tomo, so they're not total strangers. He's also attempted to help her exercise and that went nowhere even less than a parked car.
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A girl who has previously shown no obvious interest in him (other than the workout stuff earlier on) has all the sudden asked him to hang out. I think he know's he's being used. I can see why he'd be a bit put off. I think Carol is setting this up so Tomo will see Jun walking home with her. When asked, "Oh yeah. We spent time together in the park too." She's stirring poo poo up, and she's an evil genius.
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Carol is a natural born leader who takes command wherever she goes.
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Patware posted:jun carol is very powerful.
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Patware posted:jun Cotton Candy has her ways.
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If this isn't a clever ploy to light a fire under the plot I'm going to start using the S-word again.
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Patware posted:jun You really can't blame him for this. Che Delilas posted:If this isn't a clever ploy to light a fire under the plot I'm going to start using the S-word again. That's a fools bet and you know it.
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Don't do anything that would make Tomo cry, Jun and Carol.
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Carol has seized the reigns of the plot from Misuzu, and I'm glad for it.
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