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sonic adventure 2 is actually way fun and probably the only good sonic game ever - the mech and treasure hunt levels are nice changes of pace (unpopular opinion there) it has some killer bossfights, and the go-fast-sonic levels are pretty much giant three minute long setpieces with cool tricks and secrets instead of rows of bottomless pits and spikes everywhere gently caress the end of that jungle island level where it starts collapsing as you're trying to get to the exit ring tho, i think i could probably beat much of that game without getting hit and still gently caress up horribly on the end of that level three or four times all the old platformers, as mentioned, give you a shitload of speed and momentum and then by the third world the levels are complex and deadly enough that you'll never use that speed and momentum again
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Planescape Torment has good art design but bad art, interesting dialogue choices but awful gameplay, and I don't like the main character or Morte
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Jun 26, 2017 16:30
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Djeser posted:Planescape Torment has good art design but bad art, interesting dialogue choices but awful gameplay, and I don't like the main character or Morte
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Jun 26, 2017 16:32
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this is what video games should be. this is the platonic ideal of the video ghame experience
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Jun 26, 2017 16:34
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:Yeah the fact that there's a game underneath it seems like an afterthought, it's more like a cool story told at your own pace. Valid criticism. I attended a panel that Chris Avellone participated and some dipshit kissed his rear end asking "How did you make such an amazing game with Planescape" and he came back with "I was driven by hatred of everything out at the time" so I guess he just hated gameplay too
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Jun 26, 2017 16:50
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People that know which people work for which game company are weird. Even weirder when they're all like: 'oh yeah, Mr. Whatshisface tweeted that they were tightening the graphics on level 3' or 'Haha, yeah, ever since Farty McFart left, Indiegames 3000 Inc. just hasn't been the same'
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Jun 26, 2017 16:55
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How is it any different from knowing which director or production company does movies you like?
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food court bailiff posted:sonic adventure 2 is actually way fun and probably the only good sonic game ever - the mech and treasure hunt levels are nice changes of pace (unpopular opinion there) it has some killer bossfights, and the go-fast-sonic levels are pretty much giant three minute long setpieces with cool tricks and secrets instead of rows of bottomless pits and spikes everywhere the mech levels were loving garbage and felt slapped on at the last minute but yeah the treasure hunt levels were a nice change of pace. they had good music and lots of weirdness and the chao animals/vials gave you some incentive to replay and explore levels. plus the entire upgrade mechanic gave it a bizarro metroidvania aspect to it the dreamcast has a massive library of actually insanely fun and unique games that don't look good and have no polish or finesse to them at all, and at first glance you would absolutely think were garbage shovelware especially if you had a wii. 1999 was a very different time i guess
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Jun 26, 2017 17:11
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Meridian posted:How is it any different from knowing which director or production company does movies you like? It's not.
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shut up blegum posted:It's not. 
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shut up blegum posted:People that know which people work for which game company are weird. Even weirder when they're all like: 'oh yeah, Mr. Whatshisface tweeted that they were tightening the graphics on level 3' or 'Haha, yeah, ever since Farty McFart left, Indiegames 3000 Inc. just hasn't been the same' Yea, investment companies are weird. Tim Cook? Steve Jobs? who the gently caress are these people anyway?
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shut up blegum posted:People that know which people work for which game company are weird. Even weirder when they're all like: 'oh yeah, Mr. Whatshisface tweeted that they were tightening the graphics on level 3' or 'Haha, yeah, ever since Farty McFart left, Indiegames 3000 Inc. just hasn't been the same' I agree to a point. I know some people who are aware of certain developers that work in Bioware on the Mass Effect series, or know Indie developers that make garbage mspaint-looking games, and have weirldly strong opinions of these people. But there are superstars like Notch, Miyamoto, and Romero that are widely known and it isn't weird that people know them.
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nigga crab pollock posted:the dreamcast has a massive library of actually insanely fun and unique games that don't look good and have no polish or finesse to them at all, and at first glance you would absolutely think were garbage shovelware especially if you had a wii. 1999 was a very different time i guess Even for the time the Dreamcast was exceptionally weird. It was very arcade-y at the worst possible market time to be arcade-y. I mean yeah there was Shenmue and some jRPGs no one cares about, and Phantasy Star Online, but for the most part it was stuff that either was or felt like it belonged in a Japanese arcade-- Jet Set Radio. Space Channel 5, Crazy Taxi, Soul Calibur, Daytona USA, Seaman, even Sonic Adventure. While that stuff was cool, and you can see the distorted Japanese logic that would make you think it had a market niche, fact is you could buy arcade-y poo poo for all the other consoles and on first glance you couldn't tell the difference.
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an AAA produced fishlaser game is something I would buy immediately Like Star Wars, except under the sea and you're fishes and crabs 
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mind the walrus posted:Even for the time the Dreamcast was exceptionally weird. It was very arcade-y at the worst possible market time to be arcade-y. I mean yeah there was Shenmue and some jRPGs no one cares about, and Phantasy Star Online, but for the most part it was stuff that either was or felt like it belonged in a Japanese arcade-- Jet Set Radio. Space Channel 5, Crazy Taxi, Soul Calibur, Daytona USA, Seaman, even Sonic Adventure. While that stuff was cool, and you can see the distorted Japanese logic that would make you think it had a market niche, fact is you could buy arcade-y poo poo for all the other consoles and on first glance you couldn't tell the difference.
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Jun 26, 2017 21:39
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Yes, but the point was it didn't sell. Loads of people liked Crazy Taxi/Soul Calibur and heard great things about Shenmue, but they weren't enough to sell the console the way Super Mario Bros., Sonic the Hedgehog, Final Fantasy VII, Super Mario 64, DVD functionality, or Halo were.
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mind the walrus posted:Yes, but the point was it didn't sell. Loads of people liked Crazy Taxi/Soul Calibur and heard great things about Shenmue, but they weren't enough to sell the console the way Super Mario Bros., Sonic the Hedgehog, Final Fantasy VII, Super Mario 64, DVD functionality, or Halo were. DVD functionality is what really did it, I think.
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food court bailiff posted:sonic adventure 2 is actually way fun and probably the only good sonic game ever - the mech and treasure hunt levels are nice changes of pace (unpopular opinion there) it has some killer bossfights, and the go-fast-sonic levels are pretty much giant three minute long setpieces with cool tricks and secrets instead of rows of bottomless pits and spikes everywhere Those rap songs are really loving terrible though
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Jun 27, 2017 00:45
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Meridian posted:DVD functionality is what really did it, I think. This is what made me buy a PS2, and then PS3 for blu-ray, so I agree.
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Jun 27, 2017 02:51
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TheMostFrench posted:This is what made me buy a PS2, and then PS3 for blu-ray, so I agree. DVD players and Blu-ray were really expensive when they first came out. to the point where getting a PS2 was almost comparable in cost. for a while the PS3 was the cheapest Blu-Ray player on the market.
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Jun 27, 2017 03:26
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Who the gently caress uses physical media
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signalnoise posted:Who the gently caress uses physical media people in TYooL 2001
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facebook jihad posted:Those rap songs are really loving terrible though
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Rutibex posted:people in TYooL 2001 Those still exist???????
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I would sell my raggedy soul for a remake of TIE Fighter.
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The problem with space sims that aren't freespace 2 is they aren't freespace 2.
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Zeroisanumber posted:I would sell my raggedy soul for a remake of TIE Fighter. Like a re-skin, definitely. But games that good are like butterfly wings. You going to trust them to the clumsy hands of (whoever-would-develop-it-probably-loving-ea-the-whores)? We might get more than a remake. Let us remember always the lesson of Skyrim: beware if you ask game devs for dragons, for dragons you may receive.
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yeah EA has the exclusive rights to Star Wars games, you'd be right to feel skeptical about them remaking TIE Fighter
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In that case, we're lucky flight sims aren't as popular right now as they were back then.
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get that OUT of my face posted:yeah EA has the exclusive rights to Star Wars games, you'd be right to feel skeptical about them remaking TIE Fighter EA would focus completely on the multiplayer and forget to include the Secret Order of the Emperor.
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Zeroisanumber posted:EA would focus completely on the multiplayer and forget to include the Secret Order of the Emperor. No, the Secret Order would be available through paid DLC.
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Maybe the Tie Fighter series will relaunch with a thrawn movie tie in.
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get that OUT of my face posted:the arcade stuff and the non-arcade stuff were very well made games though. i'd say the dreamcast has the highest proportion of quality in its game library than any other system i spent many a teenage night downloading gigabytes of random dreamcast titles that might have even been so much as mildy entertaining and i don't think i ever downloaded any straight up bad games. hands down the worst ones were the officially licensed star wars games that came with the console given to me.
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facebook jihad posted:Those rap songs are really loving terrible though you cant even hear the words. they aren't important. also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCs42XSwI-c
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EA is already doing their best Tie Fighter remake it's called Star Wars: Battlefront 2 (the fourth Battlefront).
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signalnoise posted:Who the gently caress uses physical media this may shock and appall you but hulu didn't exist when the ps2 or even ps3 came out and netflix existed only as a service that mailed you actual physical disks, in the mail, that you would then play in your ps2 or ps3 like christ i get it nobody uses physical media these days but we're talking about in teh context of when this poo poo released, don't be such a dumbass
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Yeah playing DVDs was a cool ps2 feature when we were all conned into buying DVDs because they were the future. lol if the industry fooled you twice with blu-rays though, I dunno why you'd buy those, you should have learned your lesson!
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Dr.Smasher posted:No, the Secret Order would be available through paid DLC. Oh those fuckers!
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food court bailiff posted:this may shock and appall you but hulu didn't exist when the ps2 or even ps3 came out and netflix existed only as a service that mailed you actual physical disks, in the mail, that you would then play in your ps2 or ps3 VLC player has existed for a very long time
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