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At least, even though it was feeding into a stereotype, the DID character in Phoenix Wright: Spirit of Justice had an interesting visual theme and a cool gimmick. I'll be using neutral pronouns as one of their personalities is female, so for all intents and purposes, when that personality is talking it is a woman talking, she's just wearing a man's clothing (They were a showman, specialising in telling stories by becoming elaborate characters. Their audience didn't realise that they were all actually real people. They had a neat thing with the three fans in their hair, where the arrangement of the fans defined which personality they were inhabiting, and when it was time for a fourth personality to reveal himself, who only comes out when the other's get drunk enough to pass out, each fan representing the others falls out of their hair, leaving his head unadorned, and Owen cowering in the witness stand I liked them.
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Bydoless posted:There are other ways to cheese these kinds of fights or problematic Pokemon in general, but we'll cover them later. I heard you can easily cheese it with Charmeleon as well, since it learns Dragon Rage at level 17.
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Petiso posted:I heard you can easily cheese it with Charmeleon as well, since it learns Dragon Rage at level 17. The rare time when those sorts of moves are not only relevant, but potent. Also Super Fang.
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Jun 26, 2017 20:34
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There's not really anything to say that hasn't already been said but wow that's bad game design.
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Onmi posted:Hahahahahahaha You'll wish that was what's going on At this point, I'd honestly be a little disappointed if it wasn't the dumbest thing ever. My personal bet is on them being three people fused together via teleporter accident, to provide a dark mirror of Bill's temporary stint as a Clefairy.
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Rainuwastaken posted:At this point, I'd honestly be a little disappointed if it wasn't the dumbest thing ever. My personal bet is on them being three people fused together via teleporter accident, to provide a dark mirror of Bill's temporary stint as a Clefairy. I remember a few years back where people were theorizing that one of the villains in One Piece was born as conjoined triplets, two of which were absorbed in the womb. So as far as "What's the dumbest thing you can come up with?" that's my guess.
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Jun 26, 2017 21:29
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My money's on "just one personality but likes messing with people."
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Jun 26, 2017 22:12
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Alacron posted:I remember a few years back where people were theorizing that one of the villains in One Piece was born as conjoined triplets, two of which were absorbed in the womb. I'm somehow thinking of the "super baby method" from MGS1. Which, despite how much stuff MGS sounds like is made up, but is actually real, I was a bit disappointed to find out the "super baby method" isn't an actual thing.
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Hey, I was right about the "no middle ground" guess. People still RP in chatrooms? I used to do that a lot, but that was around 1998-2000. No wonder why the writing and characterization's so terrible.
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Bruceski posted:My money's on "just one personality but likes messing with people." Alternatively, they're a "mortal incarnation" of some Legendary trio known for quarreling with each other. Or a disguised Hydreigon.
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get that OUT of my face posted:Hey, I was right about the "no middle ground" guess.
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Yeah, there's not really much more I can add to that. Even romhacks aren't that sadistic. 100/200/160 defenses is more disgusting overall than everything in actual Pokemon outside of maybe 100% Zygarde, which needs to drop below 50% HP to hit that form, and then it doesn't have any double weaknesses to nail it with (and partially negates the weaknesses it has via Filter), and can heal itself via mega drain. Making it slower than Snorlax and giving it lovely offenses doesn't make up for that, especially when you're stuck with such weak junk that those base 70 offenses are still better than what you have anyways. Could be worse, since this fight was designed before Gen 7 released: it could have had Corrosion (which lets you poison stuff irregardless of typing) and run Toxic/Ingrain/Leech Seed/Synthesis.
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Bruceski posted:My money's on "just one personality but likes messing with people." I get the impression that's too sensible for this game.
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Clearly, ZEL is three children in a trench coat. Please, don't let this actually be the right answer.
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sgtsnookums posted:Clearly, ZEL is three children in a trench coat. I think I would like it better if it was.
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sgtsnookums posted:Clearly, ZEL is three children in a trench coat. And they're rebelling because people just don't understand them and try to beat them down without listening man. gently caress I think you actually guessed the right answer
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krisslanza posted:I'm somehow thinking of the "super baby method" from MGS1.
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Jun 27, 2017 06:09
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My hope is that it's actually three supernatural beings alternately possessing a mannequin
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It's just three regular guys but two of them are stealthily standing behind the other one making it look like there's only one of them.
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It's one person very, very dedicated to being a performance artist.
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Jun 27, 2017 07:50
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It's three people with the same appearance phasing in and out from alternate dimensions.
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Jun 27, 2017 08:04
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It's six giant squirrels with a ring of levitation.
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Jun 27, 2017 08:31
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he's a master of disguise and he's practicing.
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I realise this is six pages old but it seems to have slipped through to the keeper. Are you loving kidding me guys? When I was 12 and had got my paws on Ruby (my first Pokemon game) I worked out that the reason the cut tree at the south side of Rustboro is placed where it's placed is so that you can't see it respawning when you walk out and back. This is not a difficult concept, and every official game has very carefully ensured that breakable objects are never visible onscreen when you transition into the area they appear in so that you never actually see them spawning. How loving hard is it to wrap your head around this? This honestly offends me the most out of everything so far; it's such an utterly simple concept and yet it's absolutely necessary to 'preserve the magic' of playing the game and exploring a world.
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Tired Moritz posted:he's a master of disguise and he's practicing. I agree, it's dana carvey
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Oh yes, someone mentioned Dragon Rage as a potential out to Tangrowth? Just guess what Gyarados would have potentially been able to have had they not removed Magikarp from the game in later versions?
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Onmi posted:Oh yes, someone mentioned Dragon Rage as a potential out to Tangrowth? Just guess what Gyarados would have potentially been able to have had they not removed Magikarp from the game in later versions? I was gonna say it was something like this, but wouldn't Gyarados have leveled up past the obedience threshold before learning that?
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Kay Kessler posted:I was gonna say it was something like this, but wouldn't Gyarados have leveled up past the obedience threshold before learning that? I don't think so, we got the first badge didn't we? Even if it doesn't, since it's only level 23 for Dragon Rage, you can easily do the swap-trick to get Dragon Rage and then level down to 20 again.
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I was reading through this thread, then I realized I kinda want to experience this bullshit for myself first. I've enjoyed shittier I'm sure. (Ok, not that sure but I have a high tolerance for pokemon fangame bullshit)
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Ace of Aces posted:I realise this is six pages old but it seems to have slipped through to the keeper. The worst part is, as far as I can tell, there's no reason for that tree to be there? It's not blocking anything, there's no doorway or area exit behind it, it doesn't look like there's even anywhere for a hidden item to be. It's a completely pointless cut tree, in the worst possible place. Someone please correct me and say there's at least a reason for this stupidity.
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GirlCalledBob posted:The worst part is, as far as I can tell, there's no reason for that tree to be there? It's not blocking anything, there's no doorway or area exit behind it, it doesn't look like there's even anywhere for a hidden item to be. It's a completely pointless cut tree, in the worst possible place. My guess is that they just wanted a tree there as decoration, but accidentally put in a Cut-enabled one because they're not very good at this.
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MiracleFlare posted:
Yeah I covered most of the item locations from the Opal and Peridot Wards in the first major update of the LP, and that was one of them. In this fangame where hidden abilities are considered normal abilities, that Ability Capsule runs into an issue with Pokemon with three abilities. Instead of giving you a choice between the two abilities your Pokemon doesn't have, it goes to the next Ability in the cycle. Which means if you want say a Blitzle with Lightningrod to have Sap Sipper, you'd have to use two Ability Capsules, because the first one will shift it to Motor Drive without giving you a choice. GirlCalledBob posted:The worst part is, as far as I can tell, there's no reason for that tree to be there? It's not blocking anything, there's no doorway or area exit behind it, it doesn't look like there's even anywhere for a hidden item to be. It's a completely pointless cut tree, in the worst possible place. The PULSE Tangrowth is apparently so dastardly that it not only spawns vines, but also those cut trees as well. Beating it makes those cut trees disappear, as well as the rest of the cut trees in the Obsidia Ward, including the one that made us go through the Slums in the first place. And while we're on the subject of quote:On June 16, 2015, a Pokémon Reborn forum user named Solarance created a mod for the game called Pokémon Reborn Hardcore (although he later passed control of the project to Commander, another Pokémon Reborn forum user). The mod seeks to make the already Nintendo Hard base game even harder; for example, it gives Gym Leaders from the fourth Gym on (as well as certain other bosses) Mega Evolutions... Giving "Gym leaders from the foruth gym on Mega Evolutions" doesn't actually sound so extreme when we're fighting what are basically Mega Evolved Pokemon with minmaxed stats between the first and second gyms, does it.
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Bydoless posted:And while we're on the subject of Heck, TVTropes let me know that someone has made a "spiritual successor" to Reborn, Rejuvenation, which seems to be a spiritual successor in the way of it also having a really bad plotline that is edgy, and being more difficult.
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sgtsnookums posted:Clearly, ZEL is three children in a trench coat. Three Ditto in a trenchcoat
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Referring to your fangame as "Nintendo Hard" does not mean you have full license to be absolute bullshit with it.
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FPzero posted:Referring to your fangame as "Nintendo Hard" does not mean you have full license to be absolute bullshit with it. Well this isn't a baby Pokemon game for babies like Gamefreak keeps making for babies. This is a real Pokemon game with tactical depth and forcing you to adapt to your situation and hard boss battles! I kept seeing one person, using the Pulse Tangrowth for their screenshot, constantly push that Rebirth was far better than the "Baby Sun and Moon that prove Gamefreak is lazy"
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Onmi posted:Well this isn't a baby Pokemon game for babies like Gamefreak keeps making for babies. This is a real Pokemon game with tactical depth and forcing you to adapt to your situation and hard boss battles! I kept seeing one person, using the Pulse Tangrowth for their screenshot, constantly push that Rebirth was far better than the "Baby Sun and Moon that prove Gamefreak is lazy" The people who think like this (and think that Pulse Tangrowth is a good idea) don't seem to understand that Pokemon already has a hard mode designed for hardcore players: the battle tower and other various post-game facilities. The main game is designed for children, their target audience, and the battle tower is designed for more grown up players, their periphery audience. Of course, the people who think that this stupidly edgy game is a good idea are also likely the ones who complain that the battle tower is unfair.
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BlazeEmblem posted:Of course, the people who think that this stupidly edgy game is a good idea are also likely the ones who complain that the battle tower is unfair. ...how far of a rabbit hole is it to ask how the Battle Tower is unfair?
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RyuHimora posted:...how far of a rabbit hole is it to ask how the Battle Tower is unfair? It seems to spawn teams specifically to counter your own, has enemy pokemon with higher base stats than normal and with items that reduce accuracy. And it gets cannily lucky with OHKO's
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Onmi posted:It seems to spawn teams specifically to counter your own, has enemy pokemon with higher base stats than normal and with items that reduce accuracy. And it gets cannily lucky with OHKO's So says people who don't get his probability works. When your doing dozens if not over a hundred matches in a row in which a single loss will end the streak eventually random chance will make something go wrong.
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