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Residency Evil
Jul 28, 2003

4/5 godo... Schumi

keyframe posted:

Hi guys,

Wanted to ask a couple questions to Boxter s owners if there are any in this thread.

Basically:

-Out of the cars I was looking at which are Boxter s, bmw m4 and the corvette stingray, the boxter seems to have a perfect blend of fun and convenience. My last car was a Honda s2000 and I really enjoyed having a convertible that can also be a daily driver. How do you feel about the practicality of the car after using it for a while? For reference I am single, no kids no pets.

-How is the maintenance and reliability? I read a lot of horror stories about BMW's and usually good things about Porsche and the Porsche service in North America but would love to hear from you guys.

-What is your yearly maintenance cost like?


Thanks so much in advance guys.

I have a 2015 Cayman S, but some of this should apply. Also single, no kids, no pets.

1. It's practical-ish. I have no issues going to the grocery store or for some light shopping, but there are some things that I could easily do in my old GTI but that just aren't possible with the Cayman. Transporting skis? Sorry. A larger box/package? Also tough. Be ready to rent a Zipcar/etc occasionally. To be honest, the biggest thing that I miss about driving the GTI is just how invisible it was compared to the Cayman. I'm not a super flashy guy, and the attention gets a bit old, especially compared to a GTI. I've caught myself wishing that I just had a beater sometimes.

2. I've only had it for a year, but the 2 year service is coming up. The dealer wants $600 for an oil change, air filters, and brake flush, and that's after I called around. Ouch. Otherwise I've had no problems, but this is a nearly new car.

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keyframe
Sep 15, 2007

I have seen things

Residency Evil posted:

I have a 2015 Cayman S, but some of this should apply. Also single, no kids, no pets.

1. It's practical-ish. I have no issues going to the grocery store or for some light shopping, but there are some things that I could easily do in my old GTI but that just aren't possible with the Cayman. Transporting skis? Sorry. A larger box/package? Also tough. Be ready to rent a Zipcar/etc occasionally. To be honest, the biggest thing that I miss about driving the GTI is just how invisible it was compared to the Cayman. I'm not a super flashy guy, and the attention gets a bit old, especially compared to a GTI. I've caught myself wishing that I just had a beater sometimes.

2. I've only had it for a year, but the 2 year service is coming up. The dealer wants $600 for an oil change, air filters, and brake flush, and that's after I called around. Ouch. Otherwise I've had no problems, but this is a nearly new car.

Thanks man.

I also have a Kia Sorento for carrying stuff around so that is covered.

Regarding service. Does Porsche warranty not cover/include maintenance visits up to a certain mile/year after purchase. Dealer told me there is an option to add extra two years of extended warranty for unlimited milage/6 years coverage. I am driving over there now to check their inventory I guess I will ask when I am there.

Was really in love with the Miami Blue color in pictures but didn't like it much in person. They have a silver with red interior that made me drool though.


edit: went to the dealer earlier today and test drove one. I think I am in love. The acceleration and handling are loving amazing. Dropped my deposit and going back Monday for number crunching.

keyframe fucked around with this message at 01:05 on Jun 25, 2017

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


Toilet Rascal
As an accountant unless you are expensing this to screw your partners this is a terrible financial decision on the level of buying a used car from Kimbo, however I approve this purchase.

keyframe
Sep 15, 2007

I have seen things

Elephanthead posted:

As an accountant unless you are expensing this to screw your partners this is a terrible financial decision on the level of buying a used car from Kimbo, however I approve this purchase.

Car's cost is not a problem but I am more worried about how badly I will get hosed on car insurance in BC Canada.

Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012

keyframe posted:

Car's cost is not a problem but I am more worried about how badly I will get hosed on car insurance in BC Canada.

Does your insurance have an online portal where you can create 'test' policies, to see how much roughly your next car would be

keyframe
Sep 15, 2007

I have seen things

Sappo569 posted:

Does your insurance have an online portal where you can create 'test' policies, to see how much roughly your next car would be

In BC we have to get the liability insurance from goverment owned ICBC and then shop around for collision and comprehensive. I am gonna find out Monday when they open up but the best case scenario I am looking at 600-700$ a month.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Haha gently caress that sideways

various cheeses
Jan 24, 2013

Holy gently caress

I pay $120 per month for my 16 Cayman. What are you guys getting?

keyframe
Sep 15, 2007

I have seen things

various cheeses posted:

Holy gently caress

I pay $120 per month for my 16 Cayman. What are you guys getting?

We are getting hosed without lube. My dad pays more than what you pay for your Cayman for a loving 14 Kia with %45 discount. Insurance in Canada is retarded.

various cheeses
Jan 24, 2013

Well you guys get free healthcare I guess? Maybe ask if you can trade your healthcare for a fast car :downs:

keyframe
Sep 15, 2007

I have seen things

various cheeses posted:

Well you guys get free healthcare I guess? Maybe ask if you can trade your healthcare for a fast car :downs:

Not a bad idea since while it's free the wait to see a specialist is like 6+ months so you are dead anyway when you need it. At least the fast car will put a smile on your face. :)

My plan is to lower the insurance as much as I can with annual km limits and such. Since I can only drive the car on the weekends it should work fine.

Financially it doesn't make much sense to buy the car but goddamn I fell in love hard in the ten minutes I have driven it. It even has a "go fast" button on the steering wheel that is like the turbo button on the old 486dx2 66 pc computers but actually works. :v:

I have also driven the 2018 m4 two days ago and that car is pretty awesome as well but it didn't give me the "holy poo poo I am having the time of my life" stupid grin like the boxster did.

Jymmybob
Jun 26, 2000

Grimey Drawer

various cheeses posted:

Holy gently caress

I pay $120 per month for my 16 Cayman. What are you guys getting?

Mine are 6-700/year each for the 968, 996, and 996 Turbos but they're listed as non-primary vehicles with lower miles per year. When I had the S4 I was still under 700/year as a DD though I'm not sure on the SRT JGC or Macan since they're rolled into our company policy but I believe they're ~800/year each last time I looked.

Residency Evil
Jul 28, 2003

4/5 godo... Schumi
Currently I'm paying 330/6 months for full coverage for my Cayman, but live in a state with super low insurance prices. Looking at paying double in a month when I move back east.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

keyframe posted:

We are getting hosed without lube. My dad pays more than what you pay for your Cayman for a loving 14 Kia with %45 discount. Insurance in Canada is retarded.
Depends where you live in :canada: and if you're old and married.

I pay $100 year for my Kawi ZG1400, $300 for my 911 (albeit no collision) and something like $670 for our Subaru legacy with full everything except glass.

slidebite fucked around with this message at 16:01 on Jun 25, 2017

thechalkoutline
Jul 8, 2006



Residency Evil posted:

Currently I'm paying 330/6 months for full coverage for my Cayman, but live in a state with super low insurance prices. Looking at paying double in a month when I move back east.

Yeah, I'm in CA and pay somewhere between 600-700 semi-annual for my 08 Cayman S.

My WRX before was only maybe 300-400 semi-annual, for a reference

Keyframe, some points having put over 50k on my Cayman S, just had it's 72k maint:

I wouldn't call maintenance cheap if you don't do your own work, I can't because I'm on a Carmax warranty because 2008 IMS, but reliability has been fine. Water pump died but welcome to German automotive engineering, no big surprise (you were looking at BMW's so I assume you're fine with this). Even if you do your own work, parts are relatively more expensive irregardless, but not wallet breaking (assuming you can afford the car).

This car gives me the chills once to twice every time I commute, I absolutely know the feeling you're talking about. I've put 50k on the car, and when I'm at 6/10s on a turn, absolutely nail the shift and floor it coming out, I still get a big ol smile on my face and a chill down my back. 20% of the time I reflexively whoop

Edit: honestly I never planned to keep it this long but at this point I'm almost hoping it grenades itself before 120k so I can get a free engine (yours has no IMS issue so don't worry about this part)

thechalkoutline fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Jun 26, 2017

keyframe
Sep 15, 2007

I have seen things
Guys I have done it. I am now the proud owner of a 718 boxster s :allears:

Insurance wasnt as bad as I expected. Paying 2700 a year for a pretty comprehensive coverage(probably more than I need but peace of mind)

I have been driving the back roads here for the past two hours and it is such an amazing car. Going to research some good road trips around me and hit the road tomorrow.

Suburban Dad
Jan 10, 2007


Well what's attached to a leash that it made itself?
The punchline is the way that you've been fuckin' yourself




keyframe posted:

I am now the proud owner of a 718 boxster s :allears:
I'm jealous

keyframe posted:

Paying 2700 a year
Yet not jealous

Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012

keyframe posted:

Guys I have done it. I am now the proud owner of a 718 boxster s :allears:

Insurance wasnt as bad as I expected. Paying 2700 a year for a pretty comprehensive coverage(probably more than I need but peace of mind)

I have been driving the back roads here for the past two hours and it is such an amazing car. Going to research some good road trips around me and hit the road tomorrow.

Congrats!

Gods man that insurance though

MrChips
Jun 10, 2005

FLIGHT SAFETY TIP: Fatties out first

Just remember that between states, provinces and countries there is a huge variation of the legal minimum insurance you need to carry. Here in Canada you need a minimum $1 million coverage for personal liability and damages, whereas in the States I've heard of absurdly low numbers like $5-10,000.

Insurance rates vary accordingly to this, of course.

keyframe
Sep 15, 2007

I have seen things

Sappo569 posted:

Congrats!

Gods man that insurance though

Yea that's with max discount. I am happy because I asked some asian girl who was driving one how much her insurance is last week and she said 7000$ a year which scared me. Thank god I had a Canadian license for 7+ years that gives me max discount.


Honestly you stop caring about all numbers once you floor the pedal in that thing. I am seriously amazed by the car. It is absolutely insanely fast when you want it to and other times the ride is comfier than the Kia SUV I have been driving. I have been driving in the car since I picked it up from 2pm to 11.30 pm with only piss and food breaks in between and I feel great with no neck/leg cramps.

Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012

keyframe posted:

Yea that's with max discount. I am happy because I asked some asian girl who was driving one how much her insurance is last week and she said 7000$ a year which scared me. Thank god I had a Canadian license for 7+ years that gives me max discount.


Honestly you stop caring about all numbers once you floor the pedal in that thing. I am seriously amazed by the car. It is absolutely insanely fast when you want it to and other times the ride is comfier than the Kia SUV I have been driving. I have been driving in the car since I picked it up from 2pm to 11.30 pm with only piss and food breaks in between and I feel great with no neck/leg cramps.

7k that's like I killed 3 people driving drunk and just got my license back territory

But it sounds like you're enjoying it which is all that matters , make a road trip out to Ontario so I can have some fun too !

thechalkoutline
Jul 8, 2006



Sappo569 posted:

7k that's like I killed 3 people driving drunk and just got my license back territory

Christ I'm getting genuinely depressed just thinking of all the funny cars you could buy each year for 7 grand and run into the ground or part out

Congrats on the car, show me some pics or it didn't happen tho

keyframe
Sep 15, 2007

I have seen things

thechalkoutline posted:



Congrats on the car, show me some pics or it didn't happen tho

I will take some proper pics when the honeymoon is over but here she is before rolling off the dealer floor.



thechalkoutline
Jul 8, 2006



Black rims look good with the grey, grats (the pdk hurt me but I'm not judging I swear, they're really great transmissions)

When you get in your seat, plop your rear end in the middle and swing your legs in so they don't rub across the left bolster

Go look up a seat on any used porsche with like 80k+ of miles on it and you'll see all the cracking and wrinkling on the left bolster

This is usually not worth mentioning but figure since you got it new you might as well do it right

keyframe
Sep 15, 2007

I have seen things

thechalkoutline posted:

Black rims look good with the grey, grats (the pdk hurt me but I'm not judging I swear, they're really great transmissions)

When you get in your seat, plop your rear end in the middle and swing your legs in so they don't rub across the left bolster

Go look up a seat on any used porsche with like 80k+ of miles on it and you'll see all the cracking and wrinkling on the left bolster

This is usually not worth mentioning but figure since you got it new you might as well do it right

Thank you.

Honestly I was dead set on manual myself until I drove the PDK. I never liked paddle shifters when I tried them before on test drives on a m4 and lexus but it feels great here. Makes you feel like a f1 driver. :v:

Dealer told me like one out of every twenty cars they order is a manual and that is usually a special order someone had to wait months for for a factory build.

Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012

I didn't think they even offered manual anymore , like most car manufacturers it's either auto or paddles

Good to know the option is still there , the gt3 I drove in Vegas was paddles but that car probably saw 20 different people a day... so it makes sense to not have to replace the clutch every other day

Toe Rag
Aug 29, 2005

All current 718 and 991 are offered in manual except the Turbo. You could even get a Cayenne in manual at least until 2012. No idea what the actual breakdown is, though. At least still enough to make it worth their while. I guess something about US regulations makes it prohibitively expensive to manufacturers to even offer manual on models, or at least that is their excuse.

various cheeses
Jan 24, 2013

I hate automatics because they are vehicular cuckholdry but I'll be damned if the PDK isn't the best auto I've ever driven. I still love shifting though. Plus no one can ever steal my car in the USA because they can't drive it.

Ether Frenzy
Dec 22, 2006




Nap Ghost
I was pro-manual until I bought a quick revving car that has a DCT and haven't missed it once. I get plenty of chances to pretend I shift gears better than it does when I drive rental shitboxes on holiday in 2nd and 3rd world countries, like everyone else there who can all drive manuals too.

Enjoy the sweet car, keyframe, and enjoy not only beating manual drivers of the same car in the 0-60 but also doing it while you're holding an ice cream cone.

$2700 a year doesn't seem bad at all (you must be unmarried, or under 35 or so though because it should go down a little with those two elements, assuming you're relatively infraction-free) for full coverage on a 75k car.

keyframe
Sep 15, 2007

I have seen things

Ether Frenzy posted:

I was pro-manual until I bought a quick revving car that has a DCT and haven't missed it once. I get plenty of chances to pretend I shift gears better than it does when I drive rental shitboxes on holiday in 2nd and 3rd world countries, like everyone else there who can all drive manuals too.

Enjoy the sweet car, keyframe, and enjoy not only beating manual drivers of the same car in the 0-60 but also doing it while you're holding an ice cream cone.

$2700 a year doesn't seem bad at all (you must be unmarried, or under 35 or so though because it should go down a little with those two elements, assuming you're relatively infraction-free) for full coverage on a 75k car.

I am slightly over 35 but unmarried yes and no infractions. That would indeed bring it down but then again I don't think I can get a Porsche if I was married unless Porsche makes a minivan. :v:

Regarding PDK, because the car only has 350km on it so far I am taking it easy. Dealer said to not redline it and slowly break the engine in until 2-3k km. Once I hit that, I am going to try out the sport plus mode finally. Really loving the rev match downshifting with the pdk though. It is so immediate and a rush every time you down shift and floor the pedal.

Only problem with the car is it is so drat quick to accelerate you always have to watch the speedometer like a hawk in the city because it goes 0-70 as soon as you press the pedal. I am scared to get a ticket in the city and end up paying more for the insurance.

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


Toilet Rascal
This is why I drive a miata, by the time I reach 55 I am where I was headed to. (Insert BRZ to update joke)

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal

Elephanthead posted:

This is why I drive a miata, by the time I reach 55 I am where I was headed to. (Insert BRZ to update joke)

I'm enjoying the slowness of my 944. I have to really try to break the law. :v:

thechalkoutline
Jul 8, 2006



keyframe posted:

Only problem with the car is it is so drat quick to accelerate you always have to watch the speedometer like a hawk in the city because it goes 0-70 as soon as you press the pedal. I am scared to get a ticket in the city and end up paying more for the insurance.

Yeah you'll learn to be totally dependent on the digital speedo, off-track the analog speedo is worse than useless given a) the acceleration you mentioned and b) 100mph is literally 1/3 of the speedo, so trying to use it to gauge speeds between 0-50 is actually dangerous if you're going through like a school zone :v:

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal
So what's the best way to get a key for my 944's wheel locks? I really don't want to cut them off, I'd rather keep them and get a key made unless I have no other option... the one Porsche dealer I called said they would happily sell my a full set of locks with a new key, but they have to have a key I can buy if I give them my VIN, can't they?

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad
In a classic first world problem, I had trouble fitting my friend's golf bag into the Boxster trunk. I assume the 987 made positive steps in this direction.


Had to go in club heads first, then tuck the base under the trunk lip.
The 3 big clubs sit behind the bag without binding the shafts.

The outer travel case for the bag fit folded up into the frunk.

Bajaha
Apr 1, 2011

BajaHAHAHA.



The 987 is a little better but I don't know if it looks all that much bigger.



Worked for me though.

Jymmybob
Jun 26, 2000

Grimey Drawer

CornHolio posted:

So what's the best way to get a key for my 944's wheel locks? I really don't want to cut them off, I'd rather keep them and get a key made unless I have no other option... the one Porsche dealer I called said they would happily sell my a full set of locks with a new key, but they have to have a key I can buy if I give them my VIN, can't they?

Just trash them and get a used set on ebay for next to nothing. That's pretty much the answer to most things 944.

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm

My man.

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm
Never really thought about what CIS was before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0gPNJdR2b4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPddzTijlXU

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Red_Fred
Oct 21, 2010


Fallen Rib

Bajaha posted:

The 987 is a little better but I don't know if it looks all that much bigger.



Worked for me though.

Yeah this is excellent.

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