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Chilichimp posted:So what was this CNN story? CNN hosed up, retracted some article, and some journalists did the walk of shame.
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Mustached Demon posted:CNN hosed up, retracted some article, and some journalists did the walk of shame. Doesn't that... make... CNN... a reputable news organization?
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Jun 27, 2017 14:01
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Chilichimp posted:Doesn't that... make... CNN... a reputable news organization? Obviously not. No reputable news organization would ever make a mistake. And even if they did, they wouldn't report it! Weak. Sad.
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Jun 27, 2017 14:05
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So tick tick tick guy was full of poo poo?
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Jun 27, 2017 14:06
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His story hasn't come out yet. Journalism takes time. (he isn't a journalist, he's a source, and he lets the journalists do their job instead of announcing poo poo, he just lets people know when it's coming)
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Jun 27, 2017 14:09
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Mustached Demon posted:Also perpetrated against a democratic politician for some reason since we're off in hypothetical land. Reminder it isn't without precedent for someone to go to extraordinary lengths because of medical care, like that guy that tried robbing a bank back in 2015 to pay for his daughter's chemo treatments. Killing the politicians responsible for the system would actually go further toward fixing things than sitting around wringing hands.
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Jun 27, 2017 14:15
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Your Taint posted:So tick tick tick guy was full of poo poo? Well, a Washington Post story came out yesterday insinuating that Carter Page (Trump campaign member and suggested Trump-Putin go between from Steele dossier) talked with the FBI extensively and without a lawyer. Essentially, it indicates that he has completely flipped. If he knows anything that could be used as evidence of collusion, either alone or in the context of the wider investigation, then this would be a bombshell. Problem is, the results of the interview were not mentioned. And, if they were important, the FBI would keep it locked down and share it only with Mueller until it comes time to clean house. Basically, this article came out with the right timing and subject matter to look like the bomb, but it is such a dud people here are questioning whether or not it what Wittes was talking about. Here is the article: https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/879443489540493312
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Jun 27, 2017 14:17
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Your Taint posted:So tick tick tick guy was full of poo poo? Probably not, but it depends on how you interpret the ticking. Wittes (and his coworkers) are well connected in the intelligence community and the FBI. His blog is also wellread by journalists, especially anyone on those beats. This makes him a valuable resource for journalists who are looking to confirm scoops/leaks they've received (like what the Intercept was trying to do when they hosed up and put Winner on a silver platter) and for leakers who are trying to find safe journalists to work with. The result is that he's got a pretty good sense of when something big is going to drop, but doesn't have the control of exactly when it comes out.
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Jun 27, 2017 14:18
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Your Taint posted:So tick tick tick guy was full of poo poo? absolutely not. Whatever he is hinting at hasn't come out yet but he's not just some drama queen making twitter noise. The first time he posted tick tick tick was when the story about jeff sessions being asked to leave the room so comey could be asked to swear loyalty. And the ticking was the countdown to the article “Comey Told Sessions: Don’t Leave Me Alone With Trump.” the other tick tick tick was him physically getting the comey memos and reading them and knowing they had been released to the press and were going to be published soon. Like he's a guy that actually has actual inside information. Maybe someday he will overuse his tick tick tick gimmick and nothing will come out, but he hasn't used it to hype up anything that hasn't eventually come out as a big drat deal.
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Jun 27, 2017 14:18
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The other part of this picture is that Trump will be chatting to Leo Varadkar, the brand-new Taoiseach (sorta PM) of Ireland, who happens to be a gay brown man who pretty openly hates Trump. Sure that will be a fun chat, especially after his predecessor gently roasted Trump in his Paddy's Day speech at the WH. e: lol Leo Varadkar posted:“I do promise that if I have the chance to go to the White House in March to meet president Trump, while I won’t make any references to the West Wing,” he said. WeAreTheRomans fucked around with this message at 14:23 on Jun 27, 2017 |
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Jun 27, 2017 14:20
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WeAreTheRomans posted:The other part of this picture is that Trump will be chatting to Leo Varadkar, the brand-new Taoiseach (sorta PM) of Ireland, who happens to be a gay brown man who pretty openly hates Trump. Sure that will be a fun chat, especially after his predecessor gently roasted Trump in his Paddy's Day speech at the WH. I can't wait for video of this. Hopefully it includes Trump butchering the pronunciation of "Taoiseach" (it's tee-shock, Donny!)
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Jun 27, 2017 14:22
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Drone posted:I can't wait for video of this. Towie-seech.
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Jun 27, 2017 14:24
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Drone posted:I can't wait for video of this. tbf I would pronounce it Tee-Shuck, but that might just be my coarse Gaeilge na Mumhan dialect coming through
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Jun 27, 2017 14:25
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Who'm I kidding, the people at the State Department who had any idea how to pronounce it would have either resigned or been fired by now anyway.
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Jun 27, 2017 14:26
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:absolutely not. Whatever he is hinting at hasn't come out yet but he's not just some drama queen making twitter noise. Well he should really loving stop it, even if he knows poo poo, unless he is certain, like 100% certain, that something is about to drop within minutes or hours, because right now his credibility on this one is slipping. Enough time has passed already that any news story that comes out that is even remotely "explosive" can be pointed to by him as "BOOM" Also, that Wiki edit on Zucker's page about Project Veritas is already gone, with the hilarious editing reason of: "not noteworthy, also Project Veritas has the credibility of your average homeless man ranting on the corner"
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Jun 27, 2017 14:29
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https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/879687009836597248 lol @ Green Greenwald calling other news organizations "reckless"
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Jun 27, 2017 14:32
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DaveWoo posted:https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/879687009836597248
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Jun 27, 2017 14:33
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DaveWoo posted:https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/879687009836597248 I hope this idiot gets struck by a speeding bus.
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Jun 27, 2017 14:34
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How blessed are we that us humble masses have been granted audience to gaze upon the visages of the closest handservants of The Exulted One? All praise unto Him. MAGA.
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Jun 27, 2017 14:35
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FlamingLiberal posted:This is dumb, he's basically shaming them for owning up to a poorly sourced story. Intercept would never own up to mistakes in sourcing
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Jun 27, 2017 14:36
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Man what broke Greenwald, he really sucks lately. I also lol at the idea that a single article posted on their website that was retracted before it ever got onto the airwaves that three CNN staffers faced consequences for is "recklessness". That's loving rich, Glenn.
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Jun 27, 2017 14:41
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DaveWoo posted:https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/879687009836597248  Greenwald's an embarrassment.
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Jun 27, 2017 14:42
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Inferior Third Season posted:How blessed are we that us humble masses have been granted audience to gaze upon the visages of the closest handservants of The Exulted One? All praise unto Him. MAGA. Jim Acosta needs to grow a pair of balls and do more than just post acerbic tweets. DO SOMETHING about it my man, you have the power.
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Jun 27, 2017 14:42
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Drone posted:I can't wait for video of this. "How are you doing, T? It's me: T!"
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Jun 27, 2017 14:46
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In case anyone forgot, the collective sneer for Greenwald calling CNN reckless is that he exposed his source - Reality Winner - for The Intercept's scoop on Russian election hacking, and in a totally amateur way too. She's now being prosecuted in federal court. Also, in case anyone forgot, Reality Winner is one of the dumbest names ever bestowed upon a human, ever.
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Jun 27, 2017 14:49
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I think the best strategy at this point in time is to just ignore Trump completely.
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Jun 27, 2017 14:49
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Dumb question I have: I know employers buy group plans for their employees and save costs by getting 30 or 40 people or whatever into one plan. Is there anything stopping groups of, say, 50 or 100 private random citizens banding together to purchase something similar? edit: also what's the logic behind the proposed 6 month waiting period if you lapse? How does that accomplish or help anything? It seems strictly punitive.
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berserker posted:Man what broke Greenwald, he really sucks lately. I also lol at the idea that a single article posted on their website that was retracted before it ever got onto the airwaves that three CNN staffers faced consequences for is "recklessness". That's loving rich, Glenn. Same as everybody else, Trump won. Much like the Republicans he was expecting to have the specter of Evil Hillary and the CIA to rage against, and now finds himself in an upside down world where the only thing he really feels sure about is that the intelligence community and mainstream media are bad, which means he stands in accidental solidarity with heinous people like O'Keefe, Hannity, and Trump himself.
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DaveWoo posted:https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/879687009836597248 I'm glad they resigned and I think CNN is doing the right thing. There should be consequences for running a poorly sourced story.
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Jun 27, 2017 14:52
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RisqueBarber posted:I'm glad they resigned and I think CNN is doing the right thing. There should be consequences for running a poorly sourced story. As well as running a country poorly. Trump needs a permanent L-plate on his back.
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berserker posted:Man what broke Greenwald, he really sucks lately. I also lol at the idea that a single article posted on their website that was retracted before it ever got onto the airwaves that three CNN staffers faced consequences for is "recklessness". That's loving rich, Glenn. He's always been a libertarian.
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berserker posted:Well he should really loving stop it, even if he knows poo poo, unless he is certain, like 100% certain, that something is about to drop within minutes or hours, because right now his credibility on this one is slipping. Enough time has passed already that any news story that comes out that is even remotely "explosive" can be pointed to by him as "BOOM" That is dumb though. He's not a commercial and he doesn't write the stories. He posts when he hears or sees a source before it goes public, he's not in charge of deciding when things go public or when the story written about it gets released.
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BiggerBoat posted:Dumb question I have: I know employers buy group plans for their employees and save costs by getting 30 or 40 people or whatever into one plan. Is there anything stopping groups of, say, 50 or 100 private random citizens banding together to purchase something similar? Red tape and the only people capable of doing that already get insurance through their work
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Jun 27, 2017 14:55
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Jun 27, 2017 14:56
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BiggerBoat posted:Dumb question I have: I know employers buy group plans for their employees and save costs by getting 30 or 40 people or whatever into one plan. Is there anything stopping groups of, say, 50 or 100 private random citizens banding together to purchase something similar? It being punitive is kind of the point. It's the republican's replacement for the individual mandate and it's supposed to encourage people to have health insurance even if they don't necessarily need it (because otherwise they'll get locked out when they do need it). However, it's a terrible idea that would end up hurting a lot of people who need care.
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FlamingLiberal posted:This is dumb, he's basically shaming them for owning up to a poorly sourced story. glenn is mad at them because they reported on russia because glenn is a putin apologist
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Jun 27, 2017 15:04
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First rule of Trumpism: never admit failure.
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Sloober posted:Red tape and the only people capable of doing that already get insurance through their work Can you elaborate on "red tape"? I don't see how it'd be any more complicated than what most poelpe already deal with health insurance wise. And I'm just wondering if it's allowable and doable in the strictest sense. Like, could a put up a Craigslist ad that says "Uninsured? Pool needed for group health insurance plan. The more people the lower the cost". Also, if the US were to move to single payer, have we factored in what happens to the millions of people who work in the health care field when we factor in economic impact. Isn't healthcare like 20% of our economy or something? Do we just move those people into the government system?
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BiggerBoat posted:edit: also what's the logic behind the proposed 6 month waiting period if you lapse? How does that accomplish or help anything? It seems strictly punitive. Mandate replacement, so that healthy people buy insurance. They can't use the mandate because they spent eight years holding it up as The Greatest Affront To Individual Liberty Since The Abolition of Slavery (you see, the abolition of slavery was a horrific affront to property rights)
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