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Zikan posted:https://twitter.com/JerryMoran/status/879780429246738433 moran doesn't need to be bribed to vote yes, he just needs to be told it will pass - this is the sort of running for the exits you see that indicates the real swing votes aren't there he can read 17% approval and realize that's not what he wants to hang his hat on for the fun of it when he's not getting the tax cuts out of the deal
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Javes posted:Which outlet was that guy from? The Sentinel.
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Zikan posted:https://twitter.com/JerryMoran/status/879780429246738433 Apparently Senator Koch isn't sold either.
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Eltoasto posted:The NSA They found a massive flaw and decided not to tell Microsoft so that they could exploit it themselves.
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Eltoasto posted:The NSA they made it, this stuff is based on the shadowbroker leaks from a while back. it's been hitting europe pretty hard but started all over ukraine, so the chances of russian involvement are decent. edit: this is actually not true, the story is developing so fast that my info was outdated by the time i posted it. current analysis here: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/27/ransomware-virus-nsa-petya-hacking-tools-240008 botany fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Jun 27, 2017 |
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I keep reading BCRA as BRCA, which is one of the genes responsible for breast cancer. Fitting, really
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The GOP might have to *shudder* work with Democrats  Of course that would be even worse for the house caucus then passing this poo poo bill.
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Eltoasto posted:The NSA They found the exploit underlying it and sat on it for years while using it internally in targeted attacks, then it was leaked and someone else used it to make auto-propagating malware. This is effectively WannaCry 2.0.
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haveblue posted:They found the exploit underlying it and sat on it for years while using it internally in targeted attacks, then it was leaked and someone else used it to make auto-propagating malware. This is effectively WannaCry 2.0. Also, understandably, Microsoft is loving furious.
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Dietrich posted:The GOP might have to Reminder that if Ryan is unable to pass a budget because of the HFC crazies, Pelosi has already signaled that the price will be an Obamacare fix to explicitly state that Federal exchanges are eligible for subsidies which the president can't block. If she forces him to agree to that, then they'll probably even get a veto-proof majority.
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:He gained 1k followers since you posted. Dude's gonna be a rockstar if he plays this right. Hoping for a transcript here.
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Jun 27, 2017 20:38
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Rigel posted:Reminder that if Ryan is unable to pass a budget because of the HFC crazies, Pelosi has already signaled that the price will be an Obamacare fix to explicitly state that Federal exchanges are eligible for subsidies which the president can't block. If she forces him to agree to that, then they'll probably even get a veto-proof majority. I'm glad corn syrup exists solely due to how loving disruptive they are
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Rigel posted:Reminder that if Ryan is unable to pass a budget because of the HFC crazies, Pelosi has already signaled that the price will be an Obamacare fix to explicitly state that Federal exchanges are eligible for subsidies which the president can't block. That's for not shutting the government down iirc. Pelosi rather just have a budget not pass at all because a budget is nonbinding (and so you can't get the obamacare funds) but allows the 2018 reconciliation bill.
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I didn't say renewables are bad, I was specifically responding to the point about relying on energy storage technologies that will "continue to improve" as opposed to starting on nuclear power immediately because already have that technology. If energy storage gets to the point where we can be 100% renewables, great. But until we're at that point, it's foolish for people to completely dismiss nuclear power if they actually give two shits about climate change.
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Sloober posted:I'm glad corn syrup exists solely due to how loving disruptive they are Ok I'll bite - what are you talking about?
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WeAreTheRomans posted:Ok I'll bite - what are you talking about? hfc is also an anagram for high-fructose corn syrup as well as for the house freedom caucus
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evilweasel posted:hfc is also an anagram for high-fructose corn syrup as well as for the house freedom caucus Yeah I know, but I wanted to lure that guy into explaining how dumb his joke was. Now I have nothing 
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WeAreTheRomans posted:Yeah I know, but I wanted to lure that guy into explaining how dumb his joke was. friend i got nothing but really dumb jokes For real they're the dumbest jokes, i'm probably mike huckabee level dumb joker
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In other news a possible active shooter situation at a military base from earlier today appears to be a whole lot of nothing.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:In other news a possible active shooter situation at a military base from earlier today appears to be a whole lot of nothing. too many good guys with guns
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OctaMurk posted:I didn't say renewables are bad, I was specifically responding to the point about relying on energy storage technologies that will "continue to improve" as opposed to starting on nuclear power immediately because already have that technology. If energy storage gets to the point where we can be 100% renewables, great. But until we're at that point, it's foolish for people to completely dismiss nuclear power if they actually give two shits about climate change. Except of course, no one wants to build current nuclear designs. Nuclear power needs new and unproven technology to be competitive and sustainable. Why risk building a multi-billion dollar plant then ruin it like Crystal River or SONGS? Current designs are safe and expensive. Nuclear needs newer "unproven" designs that are safer and cheaper. By all means we shouldn't abandon nuclear, but the problems of the industry are far more practical than political. Ask Westinghouse or Areva. At this point we should be promoting any MW of non-carbon energy capacity we responsibly add, regardless the source. To that end, I'm glad renewable installation rates have begun to pick up the slack.
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farraday posted:https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/879696851674566656 The onion is truly a monkeys paw. It gives you hilarious parody, and then the finger curls as the parody slowly becomes reality.
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This is just a total Hail Mary, right? It sure sounds like one.
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That seems like a soft deadline to me. I've heard that the actual hard deadline to vote is the end of July (after that, they absolutely have to move on to the budget and debt ceiling), and if the CBO needs a week and a half, then the real deadline is probably in 3 weeks.
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What exactly is going to change between now and Friday as Republicans continue running for the exits?
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Majorian posted:This is just a total Hail Mary, right? It sure sounds like one. Not really. I mean, of course they're going to try to cut deals. But it suggests that deal-cutting time isn't unlimited because they've got to get the CBO score, then take the few days to vote, and hope the deal doesn't collapse in the interim. The only thing that will be a real hail mary is bringing a new bill to the floor with like 48-49 soft yes votes and just daring the holdouts to vote no. Everything else is just them doing what you'd expect them to be doing.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:What exactly is going to change between now and Friday as Republicans continue running for the exits? He's going to try to agree on what amendments secure the moderate votes that haven't gone hard no yet (Capuito/Murkowski/Collins/Portman), then try to see if he can get Paul/Lee/Cruz without losing them again. They haven't really done the horse trading on the amendments to get holdouts to yes it seems.
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lol there is no way they can come up with something by Friday. Collins and Heller alone specifically cited the tens of millions of people losing health insurance as the main reason for not supporting it. They can't fix that poo poo by Friday, the bill is rotten at the core.
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Capito and Portman have just announced that they won't vote for the current Senate bill. So, along with Moran (wasn't expecting that at all, wow), are we up to 8 public no's now? Or am I double-counting someone?
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https://twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/879790395370221569 opioid funding is easy, the medicaid issue is hard, will be important precisely what they said
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TAN SUIT TAN SUIT TAN SUIT
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evilweasel posted:Not really. I mean, of course they're going to try to cut deals. But it suggests that deal-cutting time isn't unlimited because they've got to get the CBO score, then take the few days to vote, and hope the deal doesn't collapse in the interim. Right, that's what I mean by a "Hail Mary" - the odds of them getting anything passed by Friday that they can work with after the recess are low. McConnell is just trying desperately to keep the ball rolling.
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Here's the statement: https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/879791052982550528 This is very weak. Capuito is saying the cuts to medicaid are too deep, not that cuts to medicaid are bad. Portman barely says anything at all. This is basically a "we're going with the winning side", not something that suggests they will be hard to get.
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Majorian posted:Right, that's what I mean by a "Hail Mary" - the odds of them getting anything passed by Friday that they can work with after the recess are low. McConnell is just trying desperately to keep the ball rolling. Oh it's not that they need to pass something by friday. They have to reach agreements by Friday so they can submit them to the CBO then vote next week. Those agreements may not be public until scored - it's hammering out the exact language that will get each one on board.
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WeAreTheRomans posted:If they sidelined Spicer because he's "getting fatter", why did they replace him with someone fatter? Story doesn't stand up to scrutiny imo Bannon into BBWs.
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nerdz posted:Hoping for a transcript here. not a transcript (its 4 minutes of word salad) but absolutely worth watching https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/879781462093869056 e: worth remembering https://twitter.com/JonLemire/status/879785149491228672
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Lightning Lord posted:Bannon into BBWs. Who isn't? Beautiful is right there in the acronym
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They've got nothing, they're hosed. As it stands, I could see them getting hypothetically wrangled by a strong and popular president, but just...lol.
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evilweasel posted:Oh it's not that they need to pass something by friday. They have to reach agreements by Friday so they can submit them to the CBO then vote next week. Those agreements may not be public until scored - it's hammering out the exact language that will get each one on board. Gotcha, thanks for the clarification. awesmoe posted:not a transcript (its 4 minutes of word salad) but absolutely worth watching I have a lower-than-average tolerance for cringe comedy, especially when it's unintentional, but this is very watchable. Major props to the guy who called her out. I wish more of the reporters had backed him up, because what a craven lovely answer. Majorian fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Jun 27, 2017 |
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