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I'm honestly completely confused by this set. I think it's good, but it seems like it's also bad? I can't tell if any of it will have any impact on Standard, it looks like it might be either fun or boring for Limited/Draft, some of the stuff might be good in Modern like Crucible Man, etc. I think SaffronOlive put it the best so far: "Hour of Devastation is officially Commander heaven."
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I mean if it wasn't a land that tapped for mana, I would have dismissed it on the spot. Thinking more thorughly about it, it'll probably only see play in EDH, if even that (given how land destruction completely ruins it, and how you have Safe Haven as a cheaper alternative in terms of mana)
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Jun 27, 2017 18:13
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Chill la Chill posted:I'm down for an MTG suicide pact - you could say we'd be making our own cycle I wish they had printed Suicide Pact. Could be like Slaughter Pact but with Innocent Blood effect attached.
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Jun 27, 2017 18:20
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En Fuego posted:Off of spoiler chat ... I just started going through my collection and taking inventory via Scryglass (which is awesome if you haven't used it) and I was wondering what everyone's favorite card they own is. One of these:  Probably the Ugin. These are the ones that most people have to look at, and are also sweet:  And these were the hardest to find:  I refused to upgrade from UW to Bant Spirits until I got these.
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Jun 27, 2017 18:20
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Oh, Waluigi.
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Jun 27, 2017 18:24
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ScryGlass stopped working for me :/ I think I dropped my phone too many times.
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I was looking up local shops here and came across this on the Wizards site... Are we getting an extra helping of ixalan after dominaria?
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Jun 27, 2017 18:39
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suicidesteve posted:One of these:
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Star Man posted:No pacts because then there's an actual cost and consequence to my death. Please get help, dude 
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Jun 27, 2017 18:52
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JFC get therapy
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Star Man posted:No pacts because then there's an actual cost and consequence to my death. Can I have your cards? PM for address info
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Jun 27, 2017 18:55
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gif Probst posted:I was looking up local shops here and came across this on the Wizards site... What are we supposed to be seeing?
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goth smoking cloves posted:What are we supposed to be seeing? 
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Jun 27, 2017 19:00
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Pro Tour Qualifier Return to Ixalan
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80s James Hetfield posted:Can I have your cards? PM for address info You can come pick them up at: 123 Butts AVE City, State, USA
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Jun 27, 2017 19:05
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Star Man posted:You can come pick them up at: Stop posting suicidal poo poo and get some help
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You guys are much too pessimistic. There are an about average number of standard-worthy cards already spoiled for this set. Just at a glance and ignoring anything cute; Black Desert Hollow One Unesh Nicol Bolas Locust God Adorned Pouncer Hour of Revelation Solemnity Ammit Eternal Earthshaker Khenra Ramunap Excavator Grind to Dust Hostile Desert Potentially any of the Defeat cycle Supreme Will Abrade Crook of Condemnation Claim to Fame There are several others that become quite good if their particular niche becomes a legit strategy like deserts or -1/-1 counters
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Jun 27, 2017 19:47
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I'm not sure how I feel about all these deserts. Most of them are utterly terrible on their own, but some of the desert synergy might be playable in places if we get enough support cards that allow color-light manabases.Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:It costs 5. I was talking about it strictly from a Commander perspective, where Primeval Titan got its rear end banned for being above and beyond "way too powerful" - this is the kind of nerf that makes it actually okay in the format while still being playable. It's a good card. But if you want to be pedantic about it, a 6/6 body is worth a hell of a lot more than a single mana. 
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The Shortest Path posted:I'm not sure how I feel about all these deserts. Most of them are utterly terrible on their own, but some of the desert synergy might be playable in places if we get enough support cards that allow color-light manabases. Is it a 1 mana cheaper Primeval Titan or is it a 1 mana more expensive Explosive Vegetation that has a billion incredibly significant upsides? Because Explosive Vegetation is like the EDH staplest of EDH staples.
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They probably just messed up and its supposed to be "Return to Dominaria" or something right? I'm in the "underwhelmed" camp for this set but I am patiently waiting for all the commons to be spoiled so that (god willing) songs of the damned cycling can be t1 in pauper. Fake edit: Stupid pauper cycling combo: Library of Leng Street Wraith Horror of the Broken Lands
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Jun 27, 2017 19:59
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TheKingofSprings posted:Stop posting suicidal poo poo and get some help
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Jun 27, 2017 20:03
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Ultima66 posted:Is it a 1 mana cheaper Primeval Titan or is it a 1 mana more expensive Explosive Vegetation that has a billion incredibly significant upsides? Right? It just goes to show how strong that effect is. I think the best part is how the second part of the card will never happen and it's still good. This set really is a Commander set to the exclusion of pretty much everywhere else, possibly also Pauper depending on how much good cycling we get. Fajita Queen fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Jun 27, 2017 |
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Any idea on how viable a -1/-1 counters deck with Hapatra, decimator beetle, archfiend and Ammit would be? It seems like with Hapatra, Archfiend and the Ammit in play you can spit out a ton of death touch snakes but Hapatra is so weak I am not sure how to keep her alive long enough to get any benefit.
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I think it's possible that there's a real -1/-1 counter synergy deck at some point in standard, but it's not going to have Decimator Beetle (simply too weak for a 5 drop) and probably not going to have archfiend.
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Tainen posted:Any idea on how viable a -1/-1 counters deck with Hapatra, decimator beetle, archfiend and Ammit would be? It seems like with Hapatra, Archfiend and the Ammit in play you can spit out a ton of death touch snakes but Hapatra is so weak I am not sure how to keep her alive long enough to get any benefit. I was tinkering around with this when Amonkhet dropped, Hapatra is too hard to keep alive for too little reward. You're better of running Exemplar or Channeler (depending on what your game plan is). Archfiend and the Decimator bug are also too slow. Might be some stuff in HoD that fleshes the deck out, but I doubt it'll ever be better than kitchen table fodder.
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Mirror + Archfiend, cycle card = -1/-1 x2
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Nest of Scarabs is the payoff you guys are looking for. Is approximately 100 times better than Hapatra
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En Fuego posted:Off of spoiler chat ... I just started going through my collection and taking inventory via Scryglass (which is awesome if you haven't used it) and I was wondering what everyone's favorite card they own is. 
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sit on my Facebook posted:Nest of Scarabs is the payoff you guys are looking for. Is approximately 100 times better than Hapatra Well having deathouch snakes and redundancy is why she'll see play if that becomes a deck. Without an anthem just making some 1/1s using inefficient creatures and removal doesn't seem nearly good enough.
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suicidesteve posted:One of these: Huh that...that is not how I would have imagined Ugin being pronounced. Then again, Russian is kind of weird like that.
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En Fuego posted:I was wondering what everyone's favorite card they own is. Invention Crucible of Worlds is definitely the prettiest card I have. Foil pack Ugin second place. Cards I love using in decks include: Playset of Thoughtseizes I had signed at GP Vegas 2015. Ugly signed 4th edition bolts
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Jenx posted:Huh that...that is not how I would have imagined Ugin being pronounced. Then again, Russian is kind of weird like that. I like it, it's fun to say Oodzhein Edit: looking at it again if I remember correctly дж = J in Russian so it probably sound like it does in english Tainen fucked around with this message at 20:59 on Jun 27, 2017 |
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Prettiest card I have is a regular foil Mayael the Anima. The way it's shaded or something makes the flowers and her eyes stick out really well in normal lighting conditions and it looks pretty drat sweet. I also have a single signed foil Unhinged island that I will treasure for the rest of my days.
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Rides Naked posted:They probably just messed up and its supposed to be "Return to Dominaria" or something right? It's just called Dominaria and that's not how Library of Leng works.
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Lone Goat posted:It's just called Dominaria and that's not how Library of Leng works. 1) Fair 2) Tell modo that because it works on there
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mossyfisk posted:Eugene, The Spirit Dragon Eugene and Nicole Bolas
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En Fuego posted:Off of spoiler chat ... I just started going through my collection and taking inventory via Scryglass (which is awesome if you haven't used it) and I was wondering what everyone's favorite card they own is. My copy of Mana Drain I bought a few years ago for my cube, when I realized that I could now just buy most of the cards I wanted and that Magic was suddenly much more dangerous to play than when I was a broke-rear end high school/college student
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Rides Naked posted:1) Fair According to Gatherer: quote:You can’t use the Library of Leng ability to place a discarded card on top of your library when you discard a card as a cost, because costs aren’t effects. It's not terribly surprising that it works on MODO though.
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Tainen posted:I like it, it's fun to say Oodzhein I was always under the impression his name was pronounced Ooghin, which should just be Угин in Russian. But eh, what do I know. (Not much. I haven't used russian since high school). I do love that Duress, in Russian, is "Violence" though. In general a lot of their translations are rather fun or creative.
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