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I was not able to get into this season, I felt like I kept waiting for it to 'get good' and it never really did. It never gave me a reason to like any of the characters and it felt like everything went nowhere.
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Jun 26, 2017 21:28
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Doorknob Slobber posted:I was not able to get into this season, I felt like I kept waiting for it to 'get good' and it never really did. It never gave me a reason to like any of the characters and it felt like everything went nowhere. Agreed.
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Jun 26, 2017 21:51
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KoRMaK posted:I was not able to get into this season, I felt like I kept waiting for it to 'get good' and it never really did. It never gave me a reason to like any of the characters and it felt like everything went nowhere. You're out of your mind.
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Jun 26, 2017 21:52
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Ray Wise did in no loving way age 27 years since the original Twin Peaks.
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Jun 27, 2017 11:06
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Maldoror posted:Heh. Ray's going to starve to death as a kitten when Nikki never comes home 
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Jun 27, 2017 15:13
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King Vidiot posted:Ray's going to starve to death as a kitten when Nikki never comes home I thought Paul Marraine (Ray Wise's character) was keeping kitten Ray.
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Jun 27, 2017 15:24
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Unzip and Attack posted:It's this. Someone in the IRS or the FBI is on Varga's payroll, they went out of their way to show us that. And Varga may be a liar, but why would he "lie" to Gloria about being released? It's not as if he can intimidate her into doing anything dumb the way he did with Emmitt. I thought Nikki sent that text, since it was pefect timing to get him to panic right when the gang was spread out, he was isolated, and the downstairs guys killed.
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Jun 27, 2017 15:39
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:I thought Paul Marraine (Ray Wise's character) was keeping kitten Ray. Ya she gave it back and told him to put out a saucer of beer whenever the gophers were playing.
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Jun 27, 2017 19:46
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Without going back and rewatching the episode...why did Paul meet up with Gloria? He gave Nikki an assignment and saved her to fight another day. But what purpose did talking with Gloria do except to generate fan speculation?
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Jun 28, 2017 00:43
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Krispy Kareem posted:Without going back and rewatching the episode...why did Paul meet up with Gloria? i think it was to make it clear he was otherworldly in some form and thats it idk the writing this season was a mess
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Jun 28, 2017 01:19
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I'm curious, did anyone binge the season instead of watching it every week? While I enjoyed it I understand people's complaints and I wonder what people who watched it all at once think.
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Jun 28, 2017 01:33
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:I thought Paul Marraine (Ray Wise's character) was keeping kitten Ray. Oh yeah, forgot about that. Well I guess Ray will be happy eating garmonbozia in the Black Lodge for eternity.
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Jun 28, 2017 01:58
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All season long, I was trying to figure out where I recognized Chief Moe from. Then I realized that he's the cop in the video for Close Your Eyes (and Count to gently caress). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkGwI7nGehA THE ONLY THING THEY CLOSE QUICKER THAN OUR CASKETS BE THE FACTORIES!
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Jun 28, 2017 02:01
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You might also know him from Boardwalk Empire.
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Jun 28, 2017 04:39
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Grem posted:You might also know him from Boardwalk Empire. And he was the Chief in Agent Carter Season 1 as well.
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anime was right posted:i think it was to make it clear he was otherworldly in some form and thats it idk the writing this season was a mess Ray Wise is awesome and I wish they gave him more to do this season than be Quirky And Mysterious Force Of Nature Character #237
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Jun 28, 2017 08:16
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Ray Wise's character is merely another facet of the theme of this season, that many things are both real and not real. We saw him early on as a real person and then later on as an ethereal person. Go back and read someone's post about this but it's essentially an explanation for a lot of "why the gently caress" in this season and I don't like it and it's dumb.
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Just watched the last episode of season 3, and I'm in the "not as good as the first two seasons, but still really good" camp. I liked Nikki and Gloria a lot, thought Ewan McGregor did a fine job in his dual roles, and I also really enjoyed Thewlis' performance as Varga. And it was good to see Mr. Wrench again. I will go on record as saying that the entire bowling alley sequence with Ray Wise, from the time Nikki and Wrench first arrived to the moment Yuri was confronted with past sins (both his own, with Helga, and the sins of his Cossack ancestors), was some of the best television ever. E: Also I just read this interview with Noah Hawley and I thought this was an interesting tidbit: quote:And I have a good sense of why Nikki can't let get of what Emmit did, but why do you think Mr. Wrench can't let go? Sydney Bottocks fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Jun 28, 2017 |
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Jun 28, 2017 18:51
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The Coen Bros and Fargo the TV show remind me of Seinfeld. I think it's mostly because normal situations get out of control and it always ends mid-resolution. George: It's not stealing. I'm freeing the stamp. I'm liberating it! The stamp belongs to me! Jerry: Come on, don't steal the stamp. George: I'm stealin' the stamp Jerry! 20 minutes later Jerry: Well I hope you're happy. Six people dead, 200 million dollars missing, and a priceless 2 cent stamp that's worthless. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B9PAIMvce8
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It was a really good season but I wish they didn't do the Lord of War ending. Also I feel like Mary Elizabeth Weinsted's character woulda shot at Emmit over the state trooper. I'm also not sure if they meant to do it but the clock was unrealistic at the end. Like the hour hand was way too far up between the 8 and the 9 for it to be fifteen minutes past.
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Doltos posted:It was a really good season but I wish they didn't do the
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Jun 29, 2017 14:52
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I'm ultimately okay with the ambiguous ending since that was the theme of the season, but I feel like it needed just a little punch right at that climax instead of staring at the clock. Maybe footsteps coming down the hall, you see the POV of whoever's coming, a hand reaches for the handle and the door starts to swing open, then black with the credits. With the slow pace of the clock shot, it just kinda whimpers out, resulting in some viewers (at least the people I was watching with) going, "uhhh, that's it?!"
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Just watching episode 3, but am I missing something with the timeline? The grandpa was 80 years old, but he seemed much younger than 45 years old in the flashback segment.
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Doltos posted:Also I feel like Mary Elizabeth Weinsted's character woulda shot at Emmit over the state trooper. She did, but he ducked, so she shot the state trooper over Emmit
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ymgve posted:Just watching episode 3, but am I missing something with the timeline? The grandpa was 80 years old, but he seemed much younger than 45 years old in the flashback segment. You age much faster in a dry, desolate, inhospitable climate. Otherwise known as Obi-Wan effect. That's not an entirely serious answer, but I have family in Vermont and their skin is terrible from the dry air in winter. So I'm going to go with it.
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Up to episode 8 now, and it annoys me how these previously cold and calculating criminals are now using more and more extreme supervillain tactics that is anything but subtle. First they risk exposing themselves by attempting to poison Nikki inside a jail cell, and when that fails they decided to overturn a loving prison bus, which is gonna attact more attention than the sum of everything that has happened so far in the season. All of this because they gave up a chance to kill her when they were in the perfect position to do so in the motel because...reasons?
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ymgve posted:Up to episode 8 now, and it annoys me how these previously cold and calculating criminals are now using more and more extreme supervillain tactics that is anything but subtle. First they risk exposing themselves by attempting to poison Nikki inside a jail cell, and when that fails they decided to overturn a loving prison bus, which is gonna attact more attention than the sum of everything that has happened so far in the season. It feels like there's a director's cut with some extra storyline. Like when Nikki saw something in that crime scene photo that interested the hell out of her. Since those photos would likely have been scanned on a computer, l33t Varga could have spotted something he missed and decided on killing Nikki after they had decided to let her live. It's like we lost about 20 minutes of exposition somewhere. Which of course is impossible because FX would give Hawley all the time he needed to explain what's going on. So who the gently caress knows.
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ymgve posted:Up to episode 8 now, and it annoys me how these previously cold and calculating criminals are now using more and more extreme supervillain tactics that is anything but subtle. First they risk exposing themselves by attempting to poison Nikki inside a jail cell, and when that fails they decided to overturn a loving prison bus, which is gonna attact more attention than the sum of everything that has happened so far in the season.
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One nitpick I have is that they had to spell out the "I feel like I don't exist" bit. You could've had Winnie hug Gloria and make her feel worthwhile and then electronic things start working for her. I'd like to think they're usually a bit more subtle than just saying it out loud. To be honest though, up to that point I thought the automatic doors not opening for her meant the world left her and her small town values behind and she's stuck in the past when it comes to things like truth and justice. vermin fucked around with this message at 14:24 on Jun 30, 2017 |
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"Well, OK then" - my reaction to Fargo Season 3.
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TheOmegaWalrus posted:"Well, OK then" - my reaction to Fargo Season 3. A lot of good that does us without being able to hear you say it  Well, OK Then is the saltine cracker of comments: you add your own topping and that changes the flavor fundamentally
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I feel it's intentionally ambiguous if Varga was part of a larger organization or not. My opinion went back and forth on the matter a few times as we were shown more of Varga's operation. At the beginning Varga wanted to give the impression he was just a cog in the machine of a giant criminal enterprise(Narwhal), he worked hard at giving off this impression to basically all of the other characters he interacted with. There was no reason to doubt that he was just a cog until we were shown that Varga lived in and operated out of the super hacker truck. When that was revealed I thought, "Holy poo poo, the whole operation is just Varga, the Chinamen(preferred nomenclature) and the Russian?" Varga does have some high up government officials working with him, most likely blackmailed and or bribed by Varga into doing so. But that's not evidence on it's own of a higher boss and organization over Varga. By the end of the season my final impression is that Varga and his 2 Capo's were formerly part of large organized international criminal organizations but had then branched out to work for themselves to specialize in these "leveraged" buy outs. P.S. People are trolling about not knowing if Maruice killed the first Stussy right?
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Without spoiling, do we ever find out the significance of the scene in episode 1 in East Germany?
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Without spoiling, sorta.
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Your Taint posted:Without spoiling, do we ever find out the significance of the scene in episode 1 in East Germany? There are several thematic/character tie ins.
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Fog Tripper posted:It was a decent season, save the omnipotent bad guys. Especially that idiocy about the deputy going back for his gun and the russian brain washing him or whatever the hell that was supposed to be. The deputy was a pussy and a bit of a dolt, as every appearance he was in showed. He was intimidated, because he was a mild mannered pussy who probably never drew his gun on anyone let alone a hardened criminal who was daring him
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Fartbox posted:The deputy was a pussy and a bit of a dolt, as every appearance he was in showed. He was intimidated, because he was a mild mannered pussy who probably never drew his gun on anyone let alone a hardened criminal who was daring him But he never thought to mention the occurrence to Gloria. I would add the oddity of taking a handgun out of a holster and laying it on a counter. As a concealed carrier (licensed) it is on the level of willful idiocy. I would have to make a clear decision to do something that odd, unless I was in the midst of field stripping it for cleaning. Sorry if this sounds like a gun sperg, but it really is odd. Hell, I wouldn't even do that at home. Fog Tripper fucked around with this message at 21:57 on Jul 3, 2017 |
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i liked the part where the chief is super smug about catching the real serial killer and doesnt remember that 3 months earlier for the same case he threw gory murder photos into the face of the victim's parolee girlfriend and said "I'll leave this with you so you can admire your work" because he knew she was the murderer and was a huge rear end about it to gloria i was 100% certain about a thing, now im 100% certain about a mutually exclusive thing with no acknowledgement that i traumatized and jailed an innocent person who is now the target of a manhunt based on my actions
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LentThem posted:i was 100% certain about a thing, now im 100% certain about a mutually exclusive thing To be fair, this is thematically consistent with the rest of the season.
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